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I would say that parafilm is good for covering the scion without much stretching, but at union I would recommend using buddy tape as it would stretch and not crack.

In my mango grafts I exclusively used buddy tape

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ilama (Annona diversifolia)
« on: May 09, 2012, 12:58:46 PM »
Harry, then grafting onto my mature would make a lot of sense. would love to get it going as my tree is now pushing for growth and all grafts are being taken. I am not sure about how the scions look at your place though.

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Thanks

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I would say about 3 weeks in this case and I saw cracking. I saw cracking in one other scion and water had gotten into the crack and rotted the union. Here in So Cal we had very fluctuating weather in last 30 days. Regardless, the point here is that Parafilm is for sealing, and if it cant flex and crack instead it defeats the purpose IMHO

James, on another roll of buddy tape, check out the 3rd order post and see how many remaining. we may have one or two before we place the order.

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Joe,

It happened to me too in some Cherimoya grafts. Note that Cherimoya union expands hard during union bond and parafilm cracks instead of expanding along with it. see the attached picture. I did not have this problem in say plums or apricots, but Cherimoya and Guava grafts got high failure rates with Parafilm.



Yes, I blame Parafilm on some of the failures that I endured, scions are very hard to get anyway and then lose them because of stupid parafilm is very disturbing.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ilama (Annona diversifolia)
« on: May 09, 2012, 10:29:41 AM »
Actually Roger emailed me last night and said that he grafted Ilama 5 years ago and it did not survive cold of So. Cal. He wasnt sure if Ilama would survive in So. Cal. Anyone? Temps here could drop to low 30's.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ilama (Annona diversifolia)
« on: May 09, 2012, 12:56:29 AM »
Now all I need is scion so we can clear the confusion, LOL.

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Well, I got grafts going, I will keep all updated

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It does come in one continuous reel but then we will need 8 folks wanting same thing. I am so glad thay it comes in a strop form roll. I have to cut parafilm to use.

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OK, what we got is perforated (perforated means its made for ease of tear into strips) and trust me, you dont want non-perforated. If you think you would have liked a continuous reel, try to break one strip into two and see what you get, the strip gets completely messed up.

Its strip by strip use, if you run short, use another strip. No waste at all.

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Adam, Buddy Tape also sells tape that has perforations within the strip so go figure! folks are confusing with that comment on buddy tape's site If these perforations are not there in the tape, there is no way for anyone to cut small strips given it stretches so much and you would end up losing more due to snapping!

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James, is your tape perforated? I dont think so. If you take a single strip, it is not perforated at all unless we got the perforated order this time. Mine from 1st order is not perforated. May be Adam can confirm that his 2nd lot looks like compared to first one. Dont confuse perforations with the tear perforations as tear perforations are for ease of breaking strips.

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"Parafilm M even makes a good substitute for chewing gum when you''re bored... :-)."

I do that CM, except that its the one is cracked at Union, LOL.  I am wondering when you stretch that much Parafilm, you dont see cracking at union at all? By stretching that much, with few days of heat the portion over the expanding union simply cracks open in all my grafts where union expanded, I am also using parafilm M, fresh!

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oh, and the stretched buddy tape wont crack like Parafilm does. Learn learn learn

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OK Folks, most people who use parafilm dont stretch it much as it does not stretch much either. On contrary, that 1.5 inch strip of buddy tape stretches to 8 to 10 inches.  Adam explained earlier in another post, here it is again:
1. Take one strip off the roll
2. Stretch a 1/4" to 1/2" of strip slowly wrapping the scion, you will get blown away on how much it stretches before it snaps. go slow, once you use the stretched portion, grab the next 1/2" section and wrap, and stretch and wrap.

If you simply are using the buddy tape without stretching it, you are not doint justice to Buddy Tape on how its intended to be used. On 8" long scion, I use mere two strips, including tieine the union and completely wrapping the scion.

Those who know how to stretch and use, they can second my comment here.

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I would if I was you, the stems are so thin that plant doesnt have strength to support any fruint, plus root system is not there yet.

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My sweetheart lychee (tiny 4' plant) flowered too, but it had no leaves so I removed all blooms per Boards recommendation. Now new growth with leaves is in full swing, I cant take any more scions out as there is nothing left there, LOL

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Thats correct Nullzero. Longans from my tree prduce well whereas my lychee is very small, may not fruit for another year or two. Also not sure what effect Longan Rootstock will have on Lychee production here in So Cal, plus its excitement of "Find Out" what happens.

I got cross breeding in apples/pears, apricots/plums/cherry with great success.

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Adam, in your case, did you put the wrap back on to the union and scion OR completely removed it? I am leaving everything on as I dont want the scion to falloff

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OK, I had a nursery man look at it while he delivered my trees. He said its persimmon growing from rootstock. He said I could graft onto these suckers as they seem to have very healthy roots. I will let them grow wild for now.

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Has anyone tried Lychee grafts on Longan OR lthe cultivators on same plants, lychee on lychee, longan on longan or cross breed?

My grafts (lychee on longan) and (longan on longan) are hanging in there with no positive results yet. I will keep you posted. Weather here is turning warm now and this may be time Lychee scions push hard.

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I second that thought Adam. All my grafts are open in wild mature trees where tempreature swings are big, grafts are confused as hell. Got very nice success and growth with Plums and Apricots, and apple/pears.

Guava and Annona's are very slow, all I see is bud breaks with no real leaves and its been like that for over a month now. I think we need some real intense heat here in CA to get the big push of growth.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ilama (Annona diversifolia)
« on: May 08, 2012, 11:05:52 AM »
Harry,  Thanks. Yes, the fruit may not look like Ilama of yours and that is what I want. Yes, please keep me in mind in your scion distribution, would love to get few other things (sent you PM's), will pay expided shipping and other costs as you may see fit.

Thanks. BTW, do you want more buddy tape? got two rolls up for take.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ilama (Annona diversifolia)
« on: May 08, 2012, 10:26:07 AM »
Per Roger Meyer,  Atemoya and Ilama are separate species, Genova Red is not Ilama, but an Atemoya.  Are we discussing Ilama OR Genova Red here?

Per Harry, He has Genova Red and he swears by it being one of the best. So, are we looking for Ilama OR Genova Red?

With all due respect to Roger Meyer, if you are quoting him correctly, Genova Red is one of three cultivars of Ilama (annona diversifloia) that Zills distributed in the 90's.  The others being Pajapita and Guillermo.  Har can confrirm this as he was with Zills at that time and was involved in the production and distribution of them at that time.  Genova red is absolutely an Ilama and is absolutely not an atemoya.

Harry

Hi Harry,

Got response from Roger
"The Ilama-Genova Red controversy came from a book called "Cornucopia II". The  author, Steve Facciola, misidentified Genova Red. It is actually an Atemoya (1/2 Cherimoya and 1/2 Sugar Apple.) I grafted the Genova Red plant so I know what it is"

Thoughts? I am trying to get Genova Red Ilama or budwood. Wondering my options here.

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