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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing mangoes in raised beds?
« on: February 23, 2015, 04:59:14 PM »
I had one in a 4'x4'x2' raised bed, it grew fine but the deer killed it. I have 8 trees in beds like that and it works fine.

See Trees in the keys:

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=7804.0

Sorry to hear about the deer killing your mango tree. I've only seen one deer in the neighborhood, but I have a fence so I think it should keep it out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing mangoes in raised beds?
« on: February 23, 2015, 04:56:29 PM »
I'm in Osceola county and can't seem to find a source of compost besides mushroom compost.

Lowes has a "Cow manure / Compost" that I use. It's less than $2 per bag.

Yeah, I've seen manure at Lowe's and Home Depot. Can it be used in the soil or would it burn the roots? I've only used manure on the surface. I was actually looking for composted yard waste, but if composted manure is safe mixed in, I'll give it a shot.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best composter
« on: February 23, 2015, 04:41:11 PM »
I've been interested in the Joraform tumbling composter
http://www.boogiebrew.net/gyg/

I saw that composter too on John Kohler's youtube video. Looks well built and insulated, also expensive. :(

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I found a video of a guy making a PVC frame for protection from the cold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EIgmY_MZhM
That's the first part, I think there are like 3 or 4 parts to that video.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Anyone growing mangoes in raised beds?
« on: February 22, 2015, 07:36:54 PM »
Is anyone growing mangoes in raised beds? I've just bought some lumber today to make a 4'x4'x10" raised bed for my Carrie Mango. My yard is just too squishy during the rainy season, and afraid that the mango will develop root rot. What kind of garden soil do you use, or soil mixture? I'm in Osceola county and can't seem to find a source of compost besides mushroom compost.

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According to WeatherBug, it's 40 right now at 9:10PM and will be 30 at 7AM. Good luck to everyone. I brought my plants in a couple nights ago, will bring the back outside on Saturday.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: young mango tree not growing
« on: February 16, 2015, 06:27:57 PM »
Thank you for the advice.  I cleared out the wedelia, about a 6ft diameter around the tree.  The drip was set to 15 minutes every other day, I turned it off completely.  As I pulled the wedelia, the ground was pretty crumbly a few inches down.  Will let it dry out a week to resume less water and see how it goes.  Thanks!




Beautiful dog. :) What breed is he/she, a Border Collie?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Filter for garden hose
« on: February 08, 2015, 11:16:41 PM »
I have just bought the pre-filter/sediment filter today from Home Depot for $12, and ordered the Gard'n Gro from amazon for $54.25 +tax (free shipping). Will take a picture of my hookup when the gard'n gro arrives.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Filter for garden hose
« on: February 05, 2015, 04:52:58 PM »
Daintree, can you post a picture of your filter setup? Is it one of those two stage filters that I see in the home improvement store websites?

How can you tell if it's time to change the filter, such as the Gard'n Gro's 40k gallon filter? Does the pressure start dwindling down?

I've looked into whole house filtration, but boy they're pretty pricey. I don't drink tap water, I have a 5 gallon water dispenser. I also have a showerhead/filter combo from Home Depot, the replacement filters aren't too bad, only $10.
You can tell they are starting to be too old is when your plants start showing more yellow when you know nutrients should be plenty available to feed on. The growth starts slowing down and dark green becomes more lime green on the trees. Time to change filter. After changing the green starts coming back. Directions say to rotate the filter once a month for extended life to get the 40K gallons, with prefilter of course.

OK, thanks for the info. :) I'll see about ordering a water filter online if I can't find any locally here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Filter for garden hose
« on: February 05, 2015, 04:44:08 PM »
Daintree, can you post a picture of your filter setup? Is it one of those two stage filters that I see in the home improvement store websites?

How can you tell if it's time to change the filter, such as the Gard'n Gro's 40k gallon filter? Does the pressure start dwindling down?

I've looked into whole house filtration, but boy they're pretty pricey. I don't drink tap water, I have a 5 gallon water dispenser. I also have a showerhead/filter combo from Home Depot, the replacement filters aren't too bad, only $10.

Could you PM me the link, or product name?  That sounds like a good place to start in my quest to absorb less chlorine.

Gunnar,

Here's a link to the Sprite shower head and filters from Home Depot. http://www.homedepot.com/s/sprite%2520filter?NCNI-5 I have the silver one that is now $37, at the time I bought it years ago, it was on sale for $20.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Filter for garden hose
« on: February 05, 2015, 04:41:31 PM »
Daintree, can you post a picture of your filter setup? Is it one of those two stage filters that I see in the home improvement store websites?

How can you tell if it's time to change the filter, such as the Gard'n Gro's 40k gallon filter? Does the pressure start dwindling down?

I've looked into whole house filtration, but boy they're pretty pricey. I don't drink tap water, I have a 5 gallon water dispenser. I also have a showerhead/filter combo from Home Depot, the replacement filters aren't too bad, only $10.

If whole house filter is too difficult you can just add filters to where you are drinking tap water. You say you don't drink tap water, but i bet you are adding tap water into some of your foods? And you can add filter to where you are bathing. Most people don't realize that chlorine is absorbed through the skin. (Bathing in a public pool with tons of chlorine is the absolute worst!) It's not at all healthy, neither for your plants nor for yourself.

I use the 5 gallon water dispenser for all my cooking/drinking needs. I use the kitchen sink to clean pots/pans and large utensils. My fridge has a filter for the water dispenser and ice maker also. I already have a showerhead filter in my shower.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Filter for garden hose
« on: February 05, 2015, 03:35:48 PM »
Daintree, can you post a picture of your filter setup? Is it one of those two stage filters that I see in the home improvement store websites?

How can you tell if it's time to change the filter, such as the Gard'n Gro's 40k gallon filter? Does the pressure start dwindling down?

I've looked into whole house filtration, but boy they're pretty pricey. I don't drink tap water, I have a 5 gallon water dispenser. I also have a showerhead/filter combo from Home Depot, the replacement filters aren't too bad, only $10.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Filter for garden hose
« on: February 04, 2015, 09:02:11 PM »
I was wondering how many people here use inline filters for their garden hose to help remove some chlorine from their water? I've just finished watching John from Growing Your Greens on Youtube. Is it worth it or is the amount of chlorine in water low enough not to harm beneficial microbes?

This is the filter https://www.monstergardens.com/boogie-brew?product_id=1454

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Thanks Squam, that's what I thought  :-X :-X

So...sulfur? any other treatment...not sure who in my are carries that?

I found some at my local feed store today. Perhaps you can try a feed store in your area?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New to mangoes
« on: February 01, 2015, 12:45:29 AM »
Looks great! Now you do not have to worry about high ph water or nutrient lockout, your plants will readily absorb whenever you feed. Good luck with your container plants.

Thanks mangomaniac! Hopefully I can keep my trees alive and healthy this year. :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New to mangoes
« on: January 31, 2015, 06:53:40 PM »
Just finished potting the two mangoes (Carrie will go in the ground on March).

Here are some pictures. I put some mulch on top but not touching the trunk.

Pickering


Carrie (It's still in its pot, but I haven't taken a photo of it before)


Mahachanok


Surinam cherry (came free with the Pickering mango)


An unknown Guava tree from the flea market


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Zands,

Please keep us updated when that tree fruits. :) That was an amazing looking tree. Hopefully the owner will be willing to give you some fruit or trade fruit with you. :)

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Wow! All those mango trees in people's front yards.. Those are all great looking trees. I'm still waiting til later this week to pot the ones I have.

This was my favorite of the ones you've shown..
http://postimg.cc/image/xwr882frj/

That's a lot of panicles, I wonder what variety that one is.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: More mangoes
« on: January 25, 2015, 07:17:06 PM »
Those are great looking trees you have there StPete!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New to mangoes
« on: January 25, 2015, 05:22:32 PM »
To counteract tipping with a newly potted mango which do not have the root ball filling the pot, I use a thick string and tie to something nearby like a fence, or use a cement block where I can change the direction of the support. Once the root ball more fills the pot then the tipping isn't as big of a problem since sand mix is pretty heavy. Once the whisky barrel pots are filled with roots they are ready to go into the ground and I start the process over again.  The only trees I have had difficulty with tipping are the really tall and bushy trees, Shorter than say 7 feet or so do not have any problems with tipping over unless they are really bushy, in which case they could be thinned a bit to allow wind to move through the canopy.
The best way gritty mix helps with tipping is because the tree doesn't grow, so you do not have much problems with tipping on a tree that is stuck in a bed of rock/clay. Oh, and it will take forever and a day for the roots to fill that pot, since the mix is neutral to high ph (from the high ph water combined with neutral soil) instead of neutral to acidic as well as always stuck in a bed of damp rock/clay.

I'll be using the sandy soil mix you were speaking off earlier. I already got the cacti mix and sandy soil yesterday. I've checked the soil since someone has already torn open a bag and there was a fair amount of sand in it and wasn't too wet, even after all the rain we got here on friday night/early sat morning. I also got the pine bark today, and a 2 gallon sprayer for foliar feeding (I chose a 2 gallon roundup one over the 1 gallon because I liked the adjustable tip better). I couldn't find the Hep 35 though or foliar pro, but Puglvr mentioned the Southern Ag Citrus Nutrional Spray in a different thread and I found and bought that at Home Depot. I'll probably keep the potted mangoes around 7 ft or so.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New to mangoes
« on: January 25, 2015, 03:10:52 PM »
OK, thanks BSBullie. I was starting to lean towards the gritty due to the weight and tipping thing, but since it won't help with tipping, I won't do that.
Gritty mix will help with tipping.  I have trees with similar size and shape in the same size pot, one with gritty and one without.  The gritty mix tips far less.  I would guess the gritty mix pot can handle another 15-20 mph than the non-gritty mix pot before it tips.  I have far far more occasions where the non-gritty tips and the gritty still stands, then having them both fall.  A 50 mph gust will wipe out everything in one whack, gritty or not.  A hurricane is going to take out everything that ain't heavily nailed down including your roof (ok, extreme).

Yeah, I know about the strength of hurricanes, 2004 was a very bad year for that. How wide are your trees in your pots?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New to mangoes
« on: January 24, 2015, 02:49:29 AM »
Tropheus76,

I went over to Larry's today since I noticed he posted a new post on Craigslist that he'll be in for the weekend, and at the sale price of $30 for 3 gallon mangoes I thought I'll just go check it out. Went in there with the intention of only getting a Mahachanok and asking questions, and ended up with a Mahachanok and a Carrie (my fiancee wanted one). lol  So now I will have two mangoes in a container one on each corner of my patio and now a mango in the ground (Carrie since I've read it's not as container friendly as a Pickering or a Maha).

Larry is a really nice guy, and talkative ;) And his place has so many different types of plants, it was like a jungle in there. :)



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New to mangoes
« on: January 24, 2015, 01:33:53 AM »
3-4 years in the 25 gallon pot before needing a root pruning? Sounds like the Pickering has a home for several years then. :) For the soil I was thinking of using the Al's Gritty Mix recipe, but there are two different ones, a 5-1-1 and a 1-1-1. I'll have to research it a bit more to figure out which will be better for mangoes and find out where to get turface.
5-1-1 is is more organic, so a shorter life span (still better than most any dirt).  You can get turface from irrigation suppliers, they use it on baseball diamonds.  1-1-1 is heavy stuff, nothing you want to move around on a regular basis, the plus side is reduced wind tippage.

Ah OK, thanks Doglips. So turface is used on baseball diamonds, didn't know that. Hmm, well I do live in Florida, we do get tropical storms and hurricanes (though it has been several years without one, thankfully), that extra weight might do good later on down the road when the tree gets a little too tall and wide for me to move around into the house.

Gritty mix will not help keep a potted tree upright in a tropical storm/hurricane, or even a gisty summer tstorm.  15 foot+ trees in 100, 200 and 300 gal can easily be toppled over in the run of the mill blustery cold front or summer tstorm.  The 500 gal seem to stay upright...though they would fare too well in a strong tropical storm or hurricane either.

OK, thanks BSBullie. I was starting to lean towards the gritty due to the weight and tipping thing, but since it won't help with tipping, I won't do that.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New to mangoes
« on: January 22, 2015, 03:40:37 PM »

A few pictures of some ingredients  ...

Turface (sifted)


Pine Bark (walmart)


Pine Bark (sifted) tiny pieces and dust removed


Orchiatta fir bark (Orchid bark)


Coarse Silica Sand




Turface (sifted and rinsed)


hi Puglvr

The turface is gray until rinsed? How much of a mess does it leave after you shift and rinse it? What is the orchiatta fir bark for? Do you use it with the pine bark, or in place of it for people that don't want to shift? Also, what do you use to shift through the ingredients?

What do you think of the Al's Gritty Mix? I've had a few recommendations to not use it. I think I saw a post that you had several mango trees potted with the mix. Have you seen a difference in between having your mangoes in a container with high quality potting soil (or topsoil/cacti mixture) compared to the gritty mix?

Right now I haven't gotten the ingredients for the gritty mix or the topsoil/cacti combo. Went to Lowe's yesterday and couldn't find what I needed for the topsoil/cacti combo, but I did notice the orchid bark available in tiny bags. I was going to head to Home Depot today, but today is pretty hectic, will try tomorrow (if the rain that is forecast isn't too bad). I'll also check out Ewing or John Deere for Turface and look around for replacement sprinkler heads while there (neighbors keep mowing over my sprinklers when they're stuck up with their ride-on mowers).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New to mangoes
« on: January 21, 2015, 11:17:44 PM »
zands- Green Jungle's Tikki stuff is all made locally by a friend of his. They are open during January for part of the week, give him a call, the days and times are on the answering machine. Usually he take Feb off, not sure if he is this year.

Stormin- The guy on Craigslist you are talking about is Larry, some of us know him by a more colorful name. He is a good guy, knows his stuff and has some amazing trees and such for sale and grows a lot of things he shouldn't be able to grow on his property. His prices are pretty decent.  I would visit over there more often if he didn't have his business on the exact opposite corner of Orlando from me accessible by only toll roads.

I'll have to visit this Larry during a weekend sometime. :) What colorful name do you know him by? Yeah Winter Garden is kind of the opposite side for me too, and I agree about those toll roads.. lol Wish I would've searched craigslist for mangoes last month, I was just around that area at the end of the month showing my family that was visiting around.

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