The Tropical Fruit Forum
Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: FlyingFoxFruits on September 30, 2012, 11:44:36 PM
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Hey Forum members,
Think of this thread as a machine.
Put in a pic of your unidentified fruit tree seedling / seedlings...(upload pics for us to see)
and out comes a perfectly correct answer for any seedling you might wonder about! ;D
OK maybe not...but this thread might be a great place for you to get a handle on that tree you forgot to label!
I know between some of the members here, it will be hard to stump us...so anyone with question about your unidentified fruit tree seedlings (very small newly sprouting seedlings even!), feed your pictures and questions into this fine tuned machine, and and hopefully you'll be vended a valid answer.
Hope to see some UFO's soon...Unidentified Fruiting Objects.
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I have a UFO I must upload pics and clues for soon! I forgot to label a brazilian seedling that took 4 ever to sprout...and now I'm in doubt. :(
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here are some seeds that popped up after about 100 days...from Brazil. Possibly the cerrado if I recall...but maybe not.
Any guesses?
This one is very hard for me...I should know this, but forgot to label. This one doesn't seem sensitive to ph, which makes me think it may not be a cerrado sp?
thanks in advance to anyone who guesses. (you can click on my pics twice to make them really large)
(http://s14.postimage.org/rfandd825/9_30_2012annon_014.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/rfandd825/)
(http://s14.postimage.org/4uf9u1w5p/9_30_2012annon_015.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4uf9u1w5p/)
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not Eugenia florida is it?
I had some other seeds labeled as that , and they look more like a suirnam cherry...these have impressed nerves, but look eugenia-ish to me.
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Saff they are not suris but I would be rootin' for Eugenia still.
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Definitely eugenia. But hard to tell at very small stage. Could it be E. stipitata (araza)?
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Do any of you Myrtaceae wizards know what tree this is?
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2513/4231486077_10337d34f9_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/72793939@N00/4231486077/)
Jaboticaba? (http://www.flickr.com/photos/72793939@N00/4231486077/#) by tanetahi (http://www.flickr.com/people/72793939@N00/), on Flickr
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4057/4232246250_df09e29841_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/72793939@N00/4232246250/)
Jaboticaba ? (http://www.flickr.com/photos/72793939@N00/4232246250/#) by tanetahi (http://www.flickr.com/people/72793939@N00/), on Flickr
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4053/4232250924_5acfbf66f1_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/72793939@N00/4232250924/)
Jaboticaba ? (http://www.flickr.com/photos/72793939@N00/4232250924/#) by tanetahi (http://www.flickr.com/people/72793939@N00/), on Flickr
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2503/4232249608_172ff58a50_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/72793939@N00/4232249608/)
Jaboticaba ? (http://www.flickr.com/photos/72793939@N00/4232249608/#) by tanetahi (http://www.flickr.com/people/72793939@N00/), on Flickr
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Definitely eugenia. But hard to tell at very small stage. Could it be E. stipitata (araza)?
nice guess Oscar..but I don't think I planted any araza seeds!
I will let u know if they turn out to be araza.
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Tim,
nice pic..looks like you found the largest jaboticaba ever.
I wonder what the hell that is though?
Thanks for posting the pic!
Looks Asian, and not from South America BTW
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Here is some photos of some seedlings I can't identify. I found these while moving everything into my greenhouse.
Thanks,
Ed
(http://s11.postimage.org/moi99ian3/IMAG0435.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/moi99ian3/)
(http://s11.postimage.org/djehtdwm7/IMAG0436.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/djehtdwm7/)
(http://s11.postimage.org/f3jtrs50f/IMAG0437.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/f3jtrs50f/)
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look like olives. lol.
they're probably just yard weeds.
yank em! ;D
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OKOK
I know what those are Ed...but I have an unfair advantage.
If anyone can properly ID them, I will poop in my cyber pants.
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Could they be purslane?
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Could they be purslane?
no, it does look like one though. lol
its a fruit
one I'd want to eat 4 $ure
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Hard to tell from the photos, but they look like pomegranate seedlings to me.
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Hard to tell from the photos, but they look like pomegranate seedlings to me.
Yeah most likely pomegranate seedlings, CoPlantNut nailed it.
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They look like baby midyim.
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Definitely eugenia. But hard to tell at very small stage. Could it be E. stipitata (araza)?
They look more like victoriana to me. My stipitata seem to have more rounded leaf tips usually.
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Do any of you Myrtaceae wizards know what tree this is?
I bet on Syzygium sp. especially given the location of the photo.
I dont know that fruit shape/colour though. MikeT might have seen this on his travels.
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Ha ha Adam definitely not olives!
Ed
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Hard to tell from the photos, but they look like pomegranate seedlings to me.
it does look like pomegranate, but nope. something else...most likely harder to source...lol
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Do any of you Myrtaceae wizards know what tree this is?
I bet on Syzygium sp. especially given the location of the photo.
I dont know that fruit shape/colour though. MikeT might have seen this on his travels.
I second that emotion.
When I look at this tree, that is all I could think of...syzigium syzgium syzigium.
Same with the mystery plant from PIN labeled as M. floribunda...looks like a syzigium to me.
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Definitely not pomegrante or purslane! I planted the seeds but not certain but hopeful that it is a special eugenia!
Ed
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Definitely not pomegrante or purslane! I planted the seeds but not certain but hopeful that it is a special eugenia!
Ed
There are some small narrow leafed eugenias like that. Forget the species name right now.
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those leaves can only belong to one Eugenia I can think if.
the most beatiful and rare Eugenia mattosii.
it has those funny oval shaped leaves...looking like a pomegranate or olive...but like Eugenia!
I'd bet all my chips on e mattosii.
it must be a nice fruit if it's named after Mattos. The gentleman who had a field day (lol) describing plinia species to science in the year of 1976.
great job collecting.
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those leaves can only belong to one Eugenia I can think if.
the most beatiful and rare Eugenia mattosii.
it has those funny oval shaped leaves...looking like a pomegranate or olive...but like Eugenia!
I'd bet all my chips on e mattosii.
it must be a nice fruit if it's named after Mattos. The gentleman who had a field day (lol) describing plinia species to science in the year of 1976.
great job collecting.
Adam , I'll post the mattosii later today and a few more UFO's or maybe UGO's ( unidentified GROWING objects )
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Some more unidentified :
#1
(http://s12.postimage.org/c462vhzzt/DSCN2384.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/c462vhzzt/)
#2 I think this may be Spanish cherry - Mimmusops commersonii
(http://s12.postimage.org/fisupdks9/DSCN2385.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fisupdks9/)
#3
(http://s10.postimage.org/os6031d2t/DSCN2386.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/os6031d2t/)
Have funn !
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why do I keep thinking #1 is some type of diospyros? or ficus?
and for #2 i will agree with mimusops commersonii..grown in too much shade! LOL makes leaves look different than I am used to.
#3 i think of Rubiaceae..maybe a species of Cordiera...or Genipa americana?
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Luc.
do u ever bust up the leaves and smell them?
this is a good way to dentify unknown plants.
It's like a taste test with your nose. You can detect odors that are tell tale for certain families of fruit.
be careful though, some leaves can stain your fingers (i think black sapote), and some will burn your face or skin.
But if you crush leaves and smell them, you'll find it's one of the best clues for identifying a plant. Make sure to smell the leaves of a fruit you might suspect your unknown fruit is akin to...this way you can compare the smells for similarities.
Best of luck, Luc. :)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pLMbJCkZFvI/UG96RYqeozI/AAAAAAAADwQ/xiozpd_Pjmo/s400/P1050581.JPG)
I believe this is Strychnos spinosa, but I am not 100% sure.
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looks right!
I don't have any fruit trees in this family , Loganiaceae
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(http://s11.postimage.org/ph3h2hmwy/10_06_2012_043.jpg)
I got this tree from Brazil, labeled as annona species. (its not necessarily a Brazilian native)
It's quite durable and tough..and it sends down some mean roots. Germination was high. I repotted them and they handled the stress like champions. I planted one in the ground to see how it handles our climate.
any guesses? I though it may be from Africa?
thanks
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I'm hoping someone here can give me an ID of these young (presumably) fruit trees in two Cerritos (Los Angeles Co, CA) gardens. Both are slender, upright trees with large pinnate leaves, somewhat resembling Ailanthus (Tree-of-Heaven). The smaller tree is growing with jackfruit, Murraya koenigii, Syzygium samarangense, other (chiefly Asian) fruit trees, is about 5m/15ft tall. The second tree is about 10m/30ft tall. No flowers or fruit visible on either tree.
I was thinking possibly a Spondias species. Someone on another board suggested Averrhoa bilimbi. I'm not familiar with either being successfully grown in SoCal's Mediterranean climate, however.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
Smaller tree:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/DSC05917_zps6cfbfd94.jpg (http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/DSC05917_zps6cfbfd94.jpg)
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/DSC05918_zps3273cca0.jpg (http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/DSC05918_zps3273cca0.jpg)
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/DSC05920_zps9f88f003.jpg (http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/DSC05920_zps9f88f003.jpg)
Larger tree:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/100_0133_zpsdcbf4f61.jpg (http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/100_0133_zpsdcbf4f61.jpg)
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/100_0136_zps53b9a4a9.jpg (http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/100_0136_zps53b9a4a9.jpg)
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/100_0137_zpse3d61791.jpg (http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/100_0137_zpse3d61791.jpg)
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/100_0135_zps11dd8515.jpg (http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z93/fastfeat/100_0135_zps11dd8515.jpg)
(http://s15.postimage.org/byulrva4n/DSC05917.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/byulrva4n/)
(http://s15.postimage.org/g999ngf7r/DSC05918.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/g999ngf7r/)
(http://s15.postimage.org/8ujxv2tc7/DSC05920.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8ujxv2tc7/)
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Directly opposite droopy leaves do look like bilimbi. But if it's 30 feet tall it should have fruited very many time by now. That would make it a very old tree. So that is a bit suspicious.
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Don't see your photo Adam.
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Are you sure they're fruit trees? My guess is that they aren't. Why don't you ask the owner? That's what I always do. He may be a little suspicious at first, but usually will open up because we love to talk about our trees and our hobby! ;D
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It looks similar to my Spondias pinnata.. but I'm not sure if this is a fruit tree or an ornamental ???
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Hi
Some photos:
http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2012/10/07/que-es-lo-que-esta-germinando-debajo-del-guaviyu/ (http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2012/10/07/que-es-lo-que-esta-germinando-debajo-del-guaviyu/)
I think that they may be some myrtaceae sprouts... not guabiju, but maybe araza, feijoa, pitanga, campomanesia, uvaia, ubajay or some other one, because the guabiju was into a nursery that grow that kind of myrtaceae
How could we know it?
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These trees grow wild here in San Diego as well. Initially thought it was Curry leaf from afar with green fruits of similar size and shape, but it wasn't. I smelt the crushed leaves, and it's nothing like spondias either. All ornamental I think.
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I know I'll recall it when someone tells me... those reddish stems are a give away but w/o fruit and or flower i can not
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This is Toona (Cedrela) sinensis (Meliaceae) (h/t to Daxin at Palmtalk) It isn't a fruit tree per se, but its new shoots are used as a vegetable in parts of Asia:
http://homemadefoodtalk.blogspot.com/2011/07/toona-sinensis-vegetables.html (http://homemadefoodtalk.blogspot.com/2011/07/toona-sinensis-vegetables.html)
Coming from temperate Asia, it is more commonly seen in NorCal and the Pacific NW than SoCal. Typically forms suckering thickets, a-la Ailanthus.
Thanks to all for their input. 8)
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can u see it now Oscar??
(http://s11.postimage.org/ph3h2hmwy/10_06_2012_043.jpg)
I got this tree from Brazil, labeled as annona species. (its not necessarily a Brazilian native)
It's quite durable and tough..and it sends down some mean roots. Germination was high. I repotted them and they handled the stress like champions. I planted one in the ground to see how it handles our climate.
any guesses? I though it may be from Africa?
thanks
Don't see your photo Adam.
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(http://s15.postimage.org/e7ftaj7yv/10_06_2012_043.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/e7ftaj7yv/)
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weird I can see it at home, but not on my phone? I will re upload
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Can you see the re-up in my post?
Must be the built in anti-Adam of this SMF build ;D
weird I can see it at home, but not on my phone? I will re upload
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That cauliflorous first tree reminds me of some species I've seen and not just in myrt.Open flowers and cut fruit would have helped.A rainforest walk up the road from me has many cauliflorous and ramiflorous species that take some effort to ID.There a so many options and I bet it is not an edible fruit.
I also don't that tall species with the droopy leaflets.I almost know it if I can put together bits of plants I know.
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pLMbJCkZFvI/UG96RYqeozI/AAAAAAAADwQ/xiozpd_Pjmo/s400/P1050581.JPG)
I believe this is Strychnos spinosa, but I am not 100% sure.
Hi Nullzero,
Mine looks different :-\ Will post a pic for you to see mine :)
ps...i also need to post one of my UFO'S ;D...Cool, thread, Adam ;)
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(http://s15.postimage.org/e7ftaj7yv/10_06_2012_043.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/e7ftaj7yv/)
thanks Tim!
yes can anyone help ID this annona?
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pLMbJCkZFvI/UG96RYqeozI/AAAAAAAADwQ/xiozpd_Pjmo/s400/P1050581.JPG)
I believe this is Strychnos spinosa, but I am not 100% sure.
Null,
Here's the Badboy ;)
(http://s8.postimage.org/fls128tg1/IMG_0280.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fls128tg1/)
Not the best of pics, though.
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pLMbJCkZFvI/UG96RYqeozI/AAAAAAAADwQ/xiozpd_Pjmo/s400/P1050581.JPG)
I believe this is Strychnos spinosa, but I am not 100% sure.
Null,
Here's the Badboy ;)
(http://s8.postimage.org/fls128tg1/IMG_0280.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fls128tg1/)
Not the best of pics, though.
Humm... I think they must be Geoffroea decorticans seedlings then. I got horrible organization lol, I was out of sharpies at the time as well.
I believe Strychnos spinosa is coming up in the container next to this one. I will take a picture when the leaves emerge.
http://www.chilebosque.cl/tree/geoffroea_decorticans.html (http://www.chilebosque.cl/tree/geoffroea_decorticans.html)
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Jackfruitwhisperer!!
u have an eagle eye...thanks for correcting my wrongful ID...I could have been sued by Nullzero!!! I think Recher has a law suit pending against FLGreenman as we speak! I don't wanna be next!! JUST KIDDING ;D ;D ;D
http://www.autolumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/eagle.gif (http://www.autolumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/eagle.gif)
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Jackfruitwhisperer!!
u have an eagle eye...thanks for correcting my wrongful ID...I could have been sued by Nullzero!!! I think Recher has a law suit pending against FLGreenman as we speak! I don't wanna be next!! JUST KIDDING ;D ;D ;D
http://www.autolumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/eagle.gif (http://www.autolumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/eagle.gif)
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Adam,
I looked through google images, and the Strychnos spinosa looked similar enough. I do however have 2 confirmed Strychonos spinosa sprouting out, I can actually see the seed shells on them (so I am confident they are S. spinosa).
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Hi Null,
ahaha Welcome to the club ;D me too ain't good with da organization ;D...I tag'n mine with tin, too stay in the loop ;)
Another edible tree, I learn't today 8) Never heard of this one, too :o I guess, I still got a long road, ahead of me :)
Thanks for sharing the :) The tree is definitely a nitrogen fixa, with edible seeds and fruits 8)
Awesome to hear that Maboque is coming up...you will see that the seed has a similar style of germination, like Black Sapote. The seed has a type of waxy coating inside the seed...to facilitate the seedling to pop out, without getting stuck 8) I was truly amazed, when i saw this with my Black Sapotes 8)
Hi Adam,
;D No prob :) Adam, you and FloridaGreenMan should run 'n hide...the forum is full of lawyers...YIKES ;D The Law suit will be served as fast as Lightning :o ;D
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Steven,
The Chanar fruit is said to be tasty, so I hope it is. Nitrogen fixing, drought tolerant, with tasty edible fruit (whats not to like). If I get some more seeds will give you a heads up.
Now waiting on the S. spinosa
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ANY GUESSES!!! ??? WHAT ANNONA THIS COULD BE??FROM BRAZIL? AFRICA??
i think it was labeled as Annona dioce? it reminds me of annona senegalensis with shiny leaves!(http://s15.postimage.org/e7ftaj7yv/10_06_2012_043.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/e7ftaj7yv/)
thanks Tim!
yes can anyone help ID this annona?
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Adam they look a bit to shiny for me (could be the water and the flash), but otherwise it could be A. senegalensis with the very visible leaf veins and -shape; check if they have smaller hairs on the backside especially on the new leaves which is a common trait. Also - seeds of A. senegalensis are small with bad germination and take forever...
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What is it? Latin name? Taste? Looks like cross between durian and pineapple. One guy in comments calls it Nibung fruit. But I'm not finding any info on this name. Malaysian Exotic Food Heritage 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdjzRsjLxkM#ws)
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Nibong is Oncosperma tigillarium, but it looks more like fruit from the Nipah palm, Nypa fruticans.
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What is it? Latin name? Taste? Looks like cross between durian and pineapple. One guy in comments calls it Nibung fruit. But I'm not finding any info on this name.
Aren't YOU supposed to tell US how it tastes?
Though I guess that video is something you found on the web rather than took... since you seem to be in Sri Lanka and the video is Malaysia.
Looks pretty cool although I'm not sure how one eats it as it looks real tough (each segment contains 2385% of your yearly dose of fiber)
And it looks like the Nypa fruticans ID hits it on the head....
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They are wild around here in low numbers getting more common as you head north.They are considered a mangrove of intertidal areas and no one here including the aboriginal people eat the fruit.
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What is it? Latin name? Taste? Looks like cross between durian and pineapple. One guy in comments calls it Nibung fruit. But I'm not finding any info on this name.
Aren't YOU supposed to tell US how it tastes?
Though I guess that video is something you found on the web rather than took... since you seem to be in Sri Lanka and the video is Malaysia.
Looks pretty cool although I'm not sure how one eats it as it looks real tough (each segment contains 2385% of your yearly dose of fiber)
And it looks like the Nypa fruticans ID hits it on the head....
Well, I live in Chicago area most of the time. My orchard is in Sri Lanka. I travel there frequently, including other countries in SE Asia (eventually I want to move to Asia full time). I never seen this fruit in Sri Lanka, Western Malaysia or Borneo.
Also your country of living doesn't mean that you will know all the flora. Many people In Sri Lanka people coming from dry zone to wet zone surprised to encounter durian for the first time in their lives. Similarly Western Malaysians have no idea of marang fruit, although common in Borneo. Eastern Malaysians do not know D24 durian, although it has been golden standard of Malaysian durians for decade.
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Steven,
The Chanar fruit is said to be tasty, so I hope it is. Nitrogen fixing, drought tolerant, with tasty edible fruit (whats not to like). If I get some more seeds will give you a heads up.
Now waiting on the S. spinosa
Hi Stephen,
Chaņar sure does sound awesome 8) WoW that's most generous of you, Thanks a bunch :)
Fingers crossed!!! Maboque will be kick'n soon :) BTW Null, did you plant the seeds straight away?
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Pretty soon after, 1 month or so. I soaked overnight in a water with hydrogen peroxide mix.
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I was ribbing you.
Interestingly it turns out Sri Lanka is part of its native habitat, but probably only on coastal areas.
So you live in Chicago and have an orchard in Sri Lanka, must be a real long drive on the Eisenhower expressway to get there.
I grew up in the Chicago area.
Have you tried the fruits of Artocarpus nobilis? If so what are they like?
I tried Garcinia quaesita (goraka) there. The fruits looked fantastic but they were horribly sour, I guess I should not have expected much as they are used as a natural preservative agent.
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Adam they look a bit to shiny for me (could be the water and the flash), but otherwise it could be A. senegalensis with the very visible leaf veins and -shape; check if they have smaller hairs on the backside especially on the new leaves which is a common trait. Also - seeds of A. senegalensis are small with bad germination and take forever...
its not water!
they are super glabrous!!
maybe a subsp. of senegalensis?
thanks Soren for commenting
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http://www.pacsoa.org.au/palms/Nypa/fruticans.html (http://www.pacsoa.org.au/palms/Nypa/fruticans.html)
There are some pandanus species with very similar looking fruit.It does not seem to be a taste sensation.They are feral in Panama and there are fossils everywhere from England to the South American inland areas from just 60 or 70 million years ago.
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Nipah fruits
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nypa_fruticans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nypa_fruticans)
http://nizaworld.wordpress.com/2011/02/11/buah-nipah-pernah-cuba/ (http://nizaworld.wordpress.com/2011/02/11/buah-nipah-pernah-cuba/)
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I was ribbing you.
Interestingly it turns out Sri Lanka is part of its native habitat, but probably only on coastal areas.
So you live in Chicago and have an orchard in Sri Lanka, must be a real long drive on the Eisenhower expressway to get there.
I grew up in the Chicago area.
Have you tried the fruits of Artocarpus nobilis? If so what are they like?
I tried Garcinia quaesita (goraka) there. The fruits looked fantastic but they were horribly sour, I guess I should not have expected much as they are used as a natural preservative agent.
Eisenhower sucks, I take invisible skyway, via Abu Dhabi. Only 20 hours drive :) :)
I'm having hard time finding a single article or good photo of Artocarpus nobilis. Can you send me good link? Only photo I found is this: http://biodiversityofsrilanka.blogspot.com/2012/06/wal-delbedi-delhingala-del-artocarpus.html (http://biodiversityofsrilanka.blogspot.com/2012/06/wal-delbedi-delhingala-del-artocarpus.html) Fruits look immature in this photo. Is it like breadfruit?
Article says that it is common in the village gardens. I notice breadfruit tree in many village gardens, but over there fruit is very small and round without dark spots or sap overflowing like you see on the breadfruits in the Caribbean markets. Is it it?
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Nipah fruits
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nypa_fruticans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nypa_fruticans)
http://nizaworld.wordpress.com/2011/02/11/buah-nipah-pernah-cuba/ (http://nizaworld.wordpress.com/2011/02/11/buah-nipah-pernah-cuba/)
I'm wondering if one can tap the sap for a juice similar to sugarcane? It is hinted in the Wikipedia and Malay article. And whoever wrote that article must not have finished 5 grades in Malay school. Google having hard time understanding ... gaps after every three words he wrote.
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I've never seen the fruits of Artocarpus nobilis. I've only seen the trees.
Oddly it seems with the native fruits of Sri Lanka that the info is hard to come by. Before I went there I tried to look up all I could and I found scant photos of the fruits...
Even the "goraka" I mentioned... if you look at the online photos they look different from the fruit I saw. The one I saw had more prominent ribbing (and more strange looking too) and was a deep crimson.
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I'm wondering if one can tap the sap for a juice similar to sugarcane? It is hinted in the Wikipedia and Malay article. And whoever wrote that article must not have finished 5 grades in Malay school. Google having hard time understanding ... gaps after every three words he wrote.
There are other articles about this on the web.
You can tap it for sap, and people do that.
In fact, it looks like it could also be a good bio-ethanol crop as you can get more ethanol from it per acre than you can with sugarcane (and presumably you aren't using fertilizer, pesticides... as this seems to be a plant that requires little care and is invasive)
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I ran into this tree at Leu Gardens in Orlando. The "fruits" were the size of a golf ball sized fuzzy fruit. Is it edible? It was a rather sizable tree with dinner plate sized leaves. For those in Orlando, the tree is with the bamboo and palms.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8194/8078204238_5c5bf55006.jpg)
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There are dozens of giant fig species around here that look similar.
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It might be the Rixford fig.
Mark Lee
San Diego CA
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A. senegalensis has a vast distribution range - most of sub-Sahara Africa so I can imagine a lot of variation; but I did notice you mentioned the germination rate was high which is not the case with A. senegalensis; its seeds are small too - around the size of A. cornifolia if that helps any?
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It looks like something I want
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A. senegalensis has a vast distribution range - most of sub-Sahara Africa so I can imagine a lot of variation; but I did notice you mentioned the germination rate was high which is not the case with A. senegalensis; its seeds are small too - around the size of A. cornifolia if that helps any?
Soren,
it does help. these seeds were larger (like sugar apple)
germination was about 100%...they separated easily, and handled transplant shock with no problem.
thanks for helping Soren!
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I ran into this tree at Leu Gardens in Orlando. The "fruits" were the size of a golf ball sized fuzzy fruit. Is it edible? It was a rather sizable tree with dinner plate sized leaves. For those in Orlando, the tree is with the bamboo and palms.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8194/8078204238_5c5bf55006.jpg)
I forget the name of the fig, but im almost certain it's edible and tastes insipid.
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All Ficus (figs) are edible, but only ten are palatable. Far and away and the only first class Ficus is the well known commercial fig.
Being at Leu Gardens the other day, I noticed a specimen of F. auriculata (syn. F. roxburghii).
This species is well worth growing for no other reason than the very large leaves. At my place I have used them as dinner plates for parties to save cleaning up. I also make people eat with their fingers to achieve the same.
I grew and sold through my nursery umpteen seedlings. I planted two and have tasted several. I have had comments from SE Asians confirming one particular seedling is in quality above the rest.
The species is native to the Himalayan foothils on The eastern side. Hmmmm maybe it comes down itno malaysia.
Anyway, for every Ficus species circa 800 in number a species of wasp has co-evolved to polinate that particular Ficus. Sometimes, but more often not, the local fig wasp will take to pollinating an exotic Ficus introduction e.g. Ficus macrophylla in California.
What is interesting is this F. auriculata of mine started off with about one in a hundred fruit ripening priperly indicating feetilization...but no wasp..so for years I thought maybe a geneti propensity towards parthenocarpic fruit (commercial fig is 100% parthenocarpic)
The few that would ripen would be with a 3 month more or less window an don either side of that none.
Over these last 8 10 years many more than 1 /100 are ripening but far from a lot.
I now beleieve soem other insect is crawling inside and adventitiously pollinating.
I have had tens of thousands of backpackers thru my farm and many have tasted the fruit.
It is only one of two examples of fruits where people like it better than me.
A good one has a jelly inside and tastes UNMISTAKENLY of artificial strawberry and artificial coconut flavouring. Believe, that reads a lot better than it tastes.
Note even the ones that ripen properly the seed is not viable. They strike readily from cuttings or air layers.
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Recher,
U could contribute to Tomas's thread about other good figs (tropical figs, not common ones) for eating.
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=2860.msg40628#msg40628 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=2860.msg40628#msg40628)
Great info...thanks for taking time to post :)
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Note I did not walk up to ficus in ? at Leu but concluded from afar that it was auriculata.
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Pretty soon after, 1 month or so. I soaked overnight in a water with hydrogen peroxide mix.
Hi Nullzero,
Yours took a while :(
I soaked mine for 2 days, always changing the water and I washed the seeds to remove some left over pulp...I then put them in a lunch tin with some humid material and they started to germinate in 2 weeks..
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Not a seedling but a fruit/berry I've been looking for the longest time, not knowing the name, it hadn't been easy. Does anyone know what this fruit is?
My old man grew these trees along the border of our property back in Vietnam as a hedge, but the berries were absolutely delicious, or so I thought back then. The leaves are very similar to those of kwai muk both in size & rough sand paper like leaf surface, the edges feel razor sharp. We, or at least I, used to punk other kids/friends using these leaves to pop their balloons.
Anyhow, texture is exactly like that of a cherry, but none of the acidity...very sweet.
(http://s7.postimage.org/nlxotyorb/image.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/nlxotyorb/)
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Pretty soon after, 1 month or so. I soaked overnight in a water with hydrogen peroxide mix.
Hi Nullzero,
Yours took a while :(
I soaked mine for 2 days, always changing the water and I washed the seeds to remove some left over pulp...I then put them in a lunch tin with some humid material and they started to germinate in 2 weeks..
Probably due to the lowered heat this time of the year, however it has been on the warm side. The seeds could of germinated 1 week or so prior, since they seem to focus on the tap root before emerging from above.
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I ran into this tree at Leu Gardens in Orlando. The "fruits" were the size of a golf ball sized fuzzy fruit. Is it edible? It was a rather sizable tree with dinner plate sized leaves. For those in Orlando, the tree is with the bamboo and palms.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8194/8078204238_5c5bf55006.jpg)
Obviously some type of ficus, and all ficus species are edible, but as Recher likes to say: edible does not always equal palatable.