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Were those Marc Anthony's poly?

Small delicious fruit. From memory - mono.

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What’s in hand?

Honey kiss
orange sherbet
Maha Chanok
Crystal
zinc
Beverly
Venus
mallika
Jakarta
Graham
ivory
sweet tart
white pirie
Sunset
nam doc mai Sia tong
lemon zest
cotton candy
m4
rosigold
Neelam
Lil Gem
Ppk
Step
Keitt
Golden Nugget
Mangifera lalijiwa
Banganapalle
Nam Doc Mai
Kiewya
Marc Anthony
Harvest Moon
San Felipe
Kent
Keitt, Lil Gem, Orange Sherbet, Nam Doc Mai, Golden Nugget, Mallika

Time to post details escapes me but better late than never

And the 2023 winners were

10 M4 - on a good year it could win it all
9 Beverly - growing on me
8 Cotton Candy - a top 10 all time sugar bomb
7 Sweet Tart - a top 10 all time great
6 Maha Chanok - tasted particularly orangey this year. It normally isn’t as big a winner for me
5 Marc Anthony - a new to me variety. Small but man, flavor profile is awesome. Worth planting.
4 Venus - aptly named, delicious
3 Lemon Zest - not a great year for the goat mango
2 ZINC - consistently delightful year after year
1 Orange sherbet - simply amazing

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mango owais ???,
« on: February 24, 2024, 02:47:28 PM »
so i bought my first mango tree and its a keitt and i will plant this beauty in a 30 gal grow bag (i dont have room for now till i will buy a land this a dream for now lol)

anyway i want to get owais mango since egyptians mango work good where i live (im not for usa)

what do you think good or bad mango???

It’s in Future’s top 50 mangoes. Nuff said.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Future’s Florida Fruit Feast - Vol 11
« on: August 05, 2023, 08:18:46 PM »
New additions thanks to some good contact suggestions plus a trip to Meritt Island.

Marc Anthony
Harvest Moon
San Felipe
Kent

Plus more Keitt, Lil Gem, Orange Sherbet, Nam Doc Mai, Golden Nugget, Mallika

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Future in the near future should be M4 available in Martin County

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Do tell more.

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What’s in hand?

Honey kiss
orange sherbet
Maha Chanok
Crystal
zinc
Beverly
Venus
mallika
Jakarta
Graham
ivory
sweet tart
white pirie
Sunset
nam doc mai Sia tong
lemon zest
cotton candy
m4
rosigold
Neelam
Lil Gem
Ppk
Step
Keitt
Golden Nugget
Mangifera lalijiwa
Banganapalle
Nam Doc Mai
Kiewya

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Yes, it is totally worth it to grow mono versions of Polyembryonic varieties. This applies only if you have the space to experiment. The mono version of Polyembryonic varieties have approximately 50% of its genes from the maternal parent so if those genes happen to have some beneficial traits from the mother tree, you could get those traits in the fruit of that seedling. Same goes with regular mono varieties.

With the mono version of Polyembryonic varieties, there is the possibility that the single seedling is selfed, it pollinated itself when the fruit was formed, or it was pollinated with another variety(zygotic). In either of these scenarios, there will be a mixing of the genes.

For Lemon Zest as an example, if the seedling was a result of selfing, you know that there is citrus in the genotype/phenotype and selfing may or may not enhance those traits. You could get fruit or growth characteristics that are better than the parent but you could also enhance the bad traits as well!

If the LZ seedling was cross pollinated with another variety, you could a seedling that produces completely different fruit but it could also be very similar to the original parent type fruit depending on what genes are dominant. I know nothing about mango genetics so other factors can play a role in this respect.

I’ve actually been planting E4, Sweet Tart and Lemon Zest seedlings in hopes of growing and fruiting a zygotic seedling (non-clone) in the hopes of getting a better version of the fruit/tree.

It would be awesome to get LZ that is precocious and highly productive without spraying. An E4 that has less fiber and changes color when ripe would be great. Sweet Tart, hmmm, not much I’d change but who knows, maybe it could somehow taste better or grow even more vigorous for me.

Simon

Well, said Simon. Chris at Truly Tropical recently fruited a lemon zest seedling. It appears to have some very interesting traits. It retained the lemon flavor, but also is productive and late season and appears so far to be disease resistant.  Has OS shape. Now I just need to convince her to change the name from Lemon-esh to something more sexy.

Off types from astounding poly fruit hold real promise.

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I’m new here :) are you hosting a feast?

Hi there. A forum search on “Future’s Florida Fruit Feast” will find a decades worth of annual south Florida premier mango reviews…and growing.

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I’m new here :) are you hosting a feast?

I think he should.

If I were, I know just the person to co-host.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Future’s Florida Fruit Feast - Vol 11
« on: July 17, 2023, 02:14:46 PM »
I’m back!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: May 18, 2023, 01:40:29 PM »
Florida. 2023. Mango season. I’m back.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Sources of ALA (Omega-3)
« on: September 15, 2022, 06:39:45 PM »
purslane.  I have some that just randomly started growing in my garden, it grows year-round through the summer.  There are improved purslane varieties that you can order from seed companies.  I just go and eat a few leaves when I'm outside, it isn't something you want to eat a ton of at once

Good point. It’s the richest non-seed plant source around. And grows like mad, sidewalks everywhere. I love it alone or in salads.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Beverly mango yay or nay?
« on: September 15, 2022, 06:34:26 PM »
Beverly is one I hadn’t had enough of until recently. Flavor wise it’s in Future’s Favorite Fifty. Nuff said v

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Sources of ALA (Omega-3)
« on: September 05, 2022, 06:27:42 PM »
Chia is king. Walnut is also good.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« on: September 05, 2022, 06:25:18 PM »
Cambodiana Mango Seedling
After a couple years of producing, I thought this would be a good time for a write-up.  My tree produced fruit after 5 years from seed but I waited for year 7 to confirm mango quality and size.  This tree consistently puts out 6 ounce size fruit and one of the earliest to ripen in my yard. It’s a strong producer of disease free fruit, flowers, and leaves.  Lanky grower that needs a good pruning. I’ll get to it someday…right.  If left to ripen on the tree, the fruit turn a beautiful orange with yellow-orange fiberless flesh and brix in low 20s. Can also be picked early with a hint of yellow and they ripen on the counter just fine.  Flavor is pure indochinese.  Apparently this is the OG of all other indochinese types we love from Zill.  It’s like a Sweet Tart mango, but smaller.  Polyembryonic seed, however, I only have luck growing out the primary shoot in the subsequent generations. I have planted out several seedlings of this seedling on my property due to the favorable characteristics of the mother.  Another win for us SoCA seedling growers.








Great report and success. Well done.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: California Super Mango rootstock experiment
« on: September 05, 2022, 06:22:13 PM »
Impressive. And I didn’t know there were 34 white Sapote varieties.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thai mangos and their name
« on: September 03, 2022, 03:59:44 PM »
That’s good info. In Malaysia I saw what we call Golden Queen (Keitt x Ivory) which was called Golden Dragon and also a red/purple Dragon mango. Very large. All grown In Thailand. I wonder if this is the purple mango you reference. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Golden Queen Mango?
« on: August 17, 2022, 03:13:41 PM »
There are some people growing it.

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Forum search function...

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I was fortunate enough to get a big load of mango seeds from a friend in FL. Here is a surprise varigated Mallika seedling! Anyone else ever get varigated seedlings?


I lost a piña colada variegation.  Talking to Alex he says variegated seedlings tend to be runts.

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Hi folks!
You can visit La Conception botanical garden. They introduce new fruit tree when I was there 6 years ago. Curious if the jackfruit, litchi, longan, banana Cavendish, sapote mamey are still there? Please let me know!
https://acclimatons.com/le-jardin-botanique-de-malaga-la-concepcion/
There are also a fruit festival this year at Rufino (he is passionate by tropical fruit, you should go and visit his land).
https://fruitstock.eu/fruitstock-festival/?fbclid=IwAR1tVimp6DV3B5Cqjco0gCF5OLNLoB9qLPnXlisCJzjU1IV2nkBtsTzge0w&prenom=Aude&email=teyssota%40yahoo.fr&ev=242774

There are many interesting producer of mango between Motril / Nerja/ Velez Malaga, as well as nurseries.
By the way, anyone know if frutales tropicales nursery still exist (they used to have rare tropical fruit)?

Thanks Benoit. Good resources. 

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With Three pages of available varieties...this looks promising in

https://tiendadefruta.com/en/2-shop-tropical-fruit?page=1

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Enjoy the “Malaga” Mango’s .  100 points if you can find a grower that will sell you a known cultivar of Mango or Cherimoya.
I went to Malaga and Almunecar in season hoping to catch the Cherimoya festival . We stayed next to a 20+ acre Cherimoya orchard right in Almunecar and it was like asking people about the mafia or human smuggling off the coast.
No one would talk about it and gave us dirty looks like we were crazy for asking. T’was weird indeed.
There must be someone doing it up right in those nice growing conditions though.
Looking forward to see’ing what y’alls can rustle up.

B2B, thank you. Odd. Is it that there’s more money for exports?

https://almunecarinfo.com/torrecuevas-fiestas-de-la-chirimoya-almunecar/

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I must say you have quite the channel.  Thank you.  I’m heading to Malaga area so will PM you to compare notes.

I was there 3 months ago. Unless you are invited to someone's garden, I don't think you will find anything else outside Malaga central market. That's where all exotics are. They even had salak and mangosteen for 20 EUR/kilo. ( imported  of course ). Top tier fresh figs and cherimoyas are your best hope right now.  In general I think Southern Spain is noticeably cooler overall than Southern California even though their climates classified as the same.

Thanks DL. You were just passing through?  Reading online says there’s 10,000 acres of mango across southern Spain. It seems mainly osteen with Kent, Keitt also and predominantly for export from what I read. Temperatures do look low at night for much of the year (high 40s) from what I’m reading. Highs below 90F and fairly low rainfall(which promises would to trigger flowering, perhaps too young like Cali). But no freezing as far asI can see.




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I must say you have quite the channel.  Thank you.  I’m heading to Malaga area so will PM you to compare notes.

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