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congrats

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nice looking tree there, the leaves look really cool, most of them i see here don't have such a slender elongated shape...they are more oval shaped usually.

Hi, thanks for writing, I didnt knew that! I hope that the fruit will be good, I read that some of them have "mucosa"/sticky pulp and other ones are more firm... would it be true?

just don't wait to eat the fruit too long, or it will be snotty... this is one fruit you can pick slightly early, and it will taste best...so do not let the fruit turn fully yellow, pick when there is a about 10% green coloration left, 90% yellow.

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nice looking tree there, the leaves look really cool, most of them i see here don't have such a slender elongated shape...they are more oval shaped usually.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia sp. "Anomaly" new Jabuticaba variety
« on: December 05, 2017, 01:00:33 PM »
Awesome! I love seeing pictures of that little "Anomaly" monster.
Your posts encouraged me to graft a bunch of Sabara  seedlings and I had a really good success rate with 4 varieties from branches that already fruited. Thanks Plinia Prince , or have you graduated to a loftier Jabo centric title at this point?

thanks Jonah!

glad to hear u are grafting Plinias, it's really not that hard, especially if you aren't using super thick scions.

I'm trying to move as fast as I can, to get this variety released to the public, but I just realized it was something special around 2y ago, and it takes years of observation to figure out how the plant will behave.

I'm learning more about the juvenility period of Plinia grafts, and finding out which ones fruit fastest, and how to graft them so they will fruit faster. 

I'm hoping to use some mature scions from the Anomaly next season, I still want to see a small grafted plant (single graft, not multiple grafts, which usually fruit faster) flowering in 1y.

I've been able to get Myrciarias to flower this way, but not yet any of the Plinias, which seem to fruit on older wood.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia sp. "Anomaly" new Jabuticaba variety
« on: December 04, 2017, 02:51:27 PM »
so...it's been a little less than 2y, since I grafted a small scion off of the "Anomaly" seedling, i remember the cutting i took was not more than 4mm in diameter, and if i'm not mistaken, it had not flowered yet (the mother tree had been flowering, but not the actual branch i took)...

as of now, the mother tree has been flowering continually for 2yrs straight, never taking a complete break, but definitely has biggest crops during winter, and spring, with production lagging during late summer/fall....and sometimes the tree will set lots of fruits, and other times, it will not set any at all, i think it depends on the environmental conditions quite a bit.

because the tree was so precocious, and bloomed so prolifically, i thought i might get lucky, with the grafted tree fruiting in about 1y from the time it was made...but it ended up taking about 22-23 month for the grafted tree to show signs of reproductive growth,

here is a recent photo of the mother tree, flowering up a storm per usual...

and also some photos of the first grafted tree I made from the Anomaly, with flowers emerging after approx. 2y from grafting.  It looks like it's going to be blooming in several places, I'm excited to see how it behaves as a grafted tree...it's vigor is noticeably improved when it's growing on Sabara roots.











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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yay! My first pitangatuba fruit!
« on: November 29, 2017, 06:01:13 PM »
nice work!

maybe a little over ripe, next time maybe you will get the fruit just right...they taste really good if they're perfectly ripe.

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the tree in the pics below was grafted from my mother tree, (which subsequently died from root trauma when i tried to repot it), now this back up tree is in a 5 gal, about 1.5y from grafting, and 3ft tall, it has set over 6 fruits, but a few aborted, now it's holding at least 3 fruits....









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cuttings are pretty easy to root, i got some going, and sold them, i think i have a handful left, they grow slow as hell, and hate being in the shade, with alkaline pH, or too wet.

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Lack of humidity may be the issue, if not maybe the fertilizer, they hate excess Nitrogen

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« on: November 26, 2017, 02:36:43 PM »
Just had some G. gardeneriana fruits at Helton's place. Very nice...sweet and juicy.
The G. brasilensis is very similar to G. intermedia (lemon drop), although there are different forms of the fruit on each species, the plants look pretty much identical.

i believe skin of G. gardneriana is always thicker, and not palatable.

a distinguishing characteristic of brasiliensis, is it's thin edible skin.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« on: November 23, 2017, 07:04:48 PM »
It's the superior form of garcinia brasiliensis, which was confused by some collectors as gardneriana

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Good or bad bug ?
« on: November 21, 2017, 09:56:07 AM »
maybe this link will be helpful, you can watch their behavior to see if they are predatory

https://beauregardparishcountrylife.wordpress.com/2015/06/11/comparison-between-leaf-footed-bug-and-milkweed-assassin-bug-nymphs/

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Good or bad bug ?
« on: November 21, 2017, 09:48:20 AM »
these are true bugs, in nymph stage, they suck plant juices, and can be problematic for certain crops...but some are assassin bugs that eat other bugs...and are beneficial...i can't tell which you have...but im leaning towards the ones that suck juices of plants

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: November 20, 2017, 02:55:09 PM »
nice collection Ispendtoomuchtimehere!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia gardneriana
« on: November 19, 2017, 10:55:46 PM »
that was a mix up, it turns out the small leaf Garcina gardneriana, is a superior form of Lemon drop mangosteen (G. brasiliensis), i really like this fruit a lot!

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i still think E. uniflora (zill dark), and E. involucrata (large fruited type) are my fav eugenias for eating out of hand.  I do like the E. candolleanas, but not quite as much.

here was a nice ZD pitanga this last season


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congrats on the great harvest, i'm still waiting on mine, thanks for the pics and report.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What's the name again ??
« on: November 17, 2017, 01:59:59 PM »
You got it Brebarian , thanks a lot .


remind me of that game, "guess who"...

but rare fruit edition...

! No longer available

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we did it.  Had about 10 people show up, which was more than I expected.  A great group of people. They waived our admission, which was greatly appreciated...and they gave me a bunch of labels for plants, and a sharpie marker, so i could help properly ID some of the trees, I saw plenty that had no label, and several that had the wrong name (Eugenia victoriana was not even a Eugenia). We toured the park for what seemed like a little over an hour, as I tried to show some of the lesser known fruits.  It was really thrashed by Irma, I was surprised to see how many trees had been uprooted, and even more surprised to see some of them chugging right along, with half of their rootballs exposed, still flowering, and getting ready to fruit (Annona reticulata in particular, there was a big specimen by the greenhouse that had toppled, but was still going strong).  The cambucas had some severe die back, i'm not sure what caused it, but they seemed to be slowly recovering, after losing about 1/3 of their size or more, probably 15 yrs of progress lost, but they will recover with proper care.  The sabaras all looked just fine.  The red jaboticabas looked ok, but were severely chlorotic.  The Pouterias did very well, the green sapote had a nice crop holding, despite being exposed to winds of approx 90mph.  The Annona mucosa trees did surprisingly well, they had been stripped totally, but had lots of flowers and some fruits holding....was also saddened to see, the Annona collection had taken a very hard hit.  One of the big illamas was toppled but ok, and seemed like a few of the mature atemoyas they had were now totally gone.  Amazingly, the Rosendo Perez (not sure if that name is right) atemoya, had big fruits holding on, even though it had been exposed to a hurricane, I think this was the only atemoya holding fruits.  The Annona globifloras had fruits setting and flowers, but no mature fruits ( i was looking for seed).  The fingersop was loaded with fruit, they tasted good to me, the group seemed to enjoy them too, it was one of the few fruits we got to sample, other than  Garcinia xanthochymus (which was enjoyed by the group as well), Garcinia brasiliensis (just a few rogue fruits), Bilimbi (fruits were nasty, lots of fallen fruits), Himalayan Red mulberry (very good fruits, maybe best of the day), canistel, Myricaria vexator fruits were all nasty, and I think that's about all.  After the tour, a few of us stayed to eat at the Mango Cafe (pulled pork sandwich hit the spot)....Lol, i locked my keys in the truck and had to call roadside service to a locksmith to open my door.  About 6 of us went from Fruit and spice park, directly to Pine Island Nursery, where we went shopping for plants.  They had some great stuff, but had sold lots of their best specimens, it was clean and neat, but you could see they really got their asses kicked by the hurricane...some whole greenhouses, and shade houses seemed to be gone entirely, or damaged horribly, needing to be totally renovated, or removed.  The lady who drove us around to shop for plants had been working there for 14yrs!  They have some good people working there, one of my favorite places to shop.  All of the people with me that day got wholesale pricing with my nursery license, so they were thrilled to see the price difference.  It was a great day, but not sure when I'll have the time and energy to do this again....I woke up at about 5am (didn't really sleep either), and got home at about 10pm...so today, I'm just sitting around the house, making sure plants and animals are happy.

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Just talked to Louise, she said they're waiving the admission fee for our group... :D

Will be there right around 11am

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thanks for sharing Oscar...nice work.

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email sent. Thanks


got it thanks, i will bring what i can on your list.

I guess this is last call...

see you at the spice park...


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I would also like 4 of the $10 seedling pitangatubas and the Aframomum.

shoot me an email please, with your complete list, i hate to sell stuff in the discussion area...lol

thanks for your help...will bring what i can.

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i notice they have problems with dieback, maybe a fungal issue, some grow out of it, some die all the way.

same with some of the other Eugenias, E. pyriformis in particular.

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