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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: wanted:Brazil Nut
« on: Today at 08:55:35 AM »
they will grow similar to Velvet Tamarind, Takien, too tall for me, and doesn't look like the type of tree that can be pruned.

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Looking for - "in Thailand"
« on: October 13, 2017, 09:26:45 AM »
ruby red found!  thanks

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There are plenty on the market now here in southern Thailand, pricing 300-600 baht depending on size, they are grafted onto another seed grown stock.  I had one graft, it mysteriously died overnight.  I don't know anybody here that is shipping to Vietnam though, but if you fly to Nakhon Si Thammaratt, there is one seller with 100's of grafts.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Kratum WTB or trade
« on: October 12, 2017, 10:27:40 AM »

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Kratum WTB or trade
« on: October 12, 2017, 10:18:41 AM »
I wonder if that is what you have?

Wonder if what, if I have Kratom?  No, workers bring in Kratom all the time and give me leaves here and there, it has no effect on me.  However I have never eaten more than 2-3 leaves in one day. Any psychoactive affects I believe are from the local recipe, which in Thailand is cooked up with cough syrup and other stuff into a 'tea.'   I have struggled to translate what I have into scientific name for a long time, but recently found a link that suggested it was this: Gynura procumbens

For a long time even struggled to find a central dialect Thai name for it, since I am very far south names of everything are different.  The common Thai name for it is ต้นหนานเฉาเวอ่

From what I read it sounds much like Gynura procumbens, and also the recommendations are same, eat for reducing blood pressure and blood sugar.  So it should basically be prescribed to anyone over 60.

Long story short, what I have exactly matches what pictures you can find on google for ต้นหนานเฉาเวอ่, however many pictures I see for Longevity spinach don't quite match, and I see many times people say it is eaten like spinach? That is completely off, Kratom Malay is extremely bitter!  Just to chew one leaf might make some people throw up.  I know people who eat Neem leaves easier than Kratom Malay.  And in fact Kratom is a better leaf to eat than Kratom Malay.  Nobody in their right mind what suggest Kratom Malay as a vegetable, it is 'medicine' and most people would not consume it even as medicine.  I cut 5 leaves with a big handful of mint into a tea, and I had to build up tolerance to that.  Before 2 leaves was my maximum.  i can't stomach chewing even one leaf, but I can do 1 kratom leaf easily.

Kratom Malay has a soothing effect on nervous system, and leaves some slight numbing on the tongues which lingers for several hours.  It is important to note that genuine Kratom is also prescribed to construction workers for the numbing effect, which is sort of how it stimulates work, as pain is the biggest problem to laborers.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Kratum WTB or trade
« on: October 12, 2017, 09:09:00 AM »
Looking to pickup Mex. Garcinia scions to trade to somebody else locally for something else..
Kratom is illegal where I'm at, but all the workers chew it and have cuttings, too bad could not send to you.  In Malaysia I believe it is not illegal, and quite common there, so that would be a good place to look.

However there is another plant locally sometimes referred to as Kratom Malay, not to be confused with Kratom 'from' Malaysia, which is very common!  The scientific name is Gynura_procumbens edit, Gymnanthemum amygdalinum
I steep 5 leaves with a handful of fresh mint, with poured over hot water, like any regular tea.  It is more bitter than Kratom, so I prefer not to chew it.  Kratom is pretty bitter to chew as well. 
If your after Kratom for any sort of perceived stimulant effect, just know that coffee is so much more powerful!

Kratom Malay is easily propagated by cutting, easier than basil, mint, or mulberry.  It can grow up to 30 feet tall, possibly taller, I trim mine back before it gets that tall.  To get that tall it will be like bamboo, it needs smaller trees around it to support it, so quite bushy if getting that tall.  Recently pulled up an entire 30 foot tree, it has a nice tubular root system, but not too deep of tap root.  Leaves are evergreen, never seen flowers.

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Looking for - "in Thailand"
« on: October 12, 2017, 08:58:52 AM »
Can find lots of stuff, and I have lots of stuff, but the Ruby Red Grapefruit don't think have any anywhere here.  I have 3 types of Pommelo, but would really like the Ruby Red Grapefruit.  I recently purchased 6 Dekopon trees, so I'm good on those.  Also I have so many lime and lemon strains now, key lime not really important now.

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