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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Almost Killed my jackfruit with 16-16-16
« on: April 28, 2018, 08:57:03 PM »
Just 1/4-1/2 cup to a 8 foot tree burned up the all the tips.  I think it will pull through though.  It looked like it was doing a huge growth spurt so I thought I would help it out.  Instead lost all new growth but old leaves are hanging in there.  In the area it is planted also have roselle, it was unaffected, so the amount of fertilizer not really over the top I think.

Any other trees people notice don't tolerate chemical fertilizer?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Raised gardens under my eaves.
« on: April 28, 2018, 08:40:27 PM »
tree trunks work good, but yeah when they rot they become home for a lot of pests you wouldn't want in your garden.  Fire ants especially are attracted to dead wood, and they will farm aphids.  Black ants are also aphid farmers.  Split coconut palm is my favorite because it biodegrades so fast, too soft for the pests, and can be tilled in after a year.
Personally use only rocks now, the bigger the better.

Don't worry about keeping the soil in the place, if the soil can wash out, that is a good thing, it will give good drainage.  Then just top up with new compost, manure, and potting soil after each replanting.  The surrounding area will improve from the runoff.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pakistani Mulberry Tree Too Big
« on: April 27, 2018, 04:16:49 AM »
The sewer lines are penetrated at the joints, if possible dig up around the connecting joints and encase in concrete, that might be proactive.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cameroon seeds
« on: April 27, 2018, 01:14:51 AM »
Also Coco de mer, definitely would be interested in that.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cameroon seeds
« on: April 27, 2018, 01:08:53 AM »
africa has some very select cultivated varities of plantain, if you bring back any to Thailand I'd be interested, I'm in NST

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Raised gardens under my eaves.
« on: April 26, 2018, 08:57:23 PM »
nice!  I used to garden in raised beds like this in a old house I rented.   Chilis will do very well

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Identify: Banana
« on: April 26, 2018, 08:52:51 PM »
there are two types of 'giant banana' I have bought, but only 8 month in the ground so far.  In regular 'wild' conditions they may only give out 1-2 fruit, so in very poor conditions they may not have any fruit at all.  These are very rare types of bananas, so this remind you did you buy this kind before?  Without enough fertilizer they will not have any fruit at all.  I think some local name for these types like 'Gluay Hai Plee" - 'Disappearing fruit banana' or something like that.

กล้วยเทพรส - Gluay Teparod

กล้วยงาช้าง - Gluay Nga Chang

very excited for these to flower, so far they are not so good, I was provided with very small corms, so they are giving a slow start.

I expect the opposite, because generally

1) Vines tend to grow significantly faster than plants that have to support themselves,
2) Plants that can get huge tend to grow faster than plants that will stay small.

Although there is of course much variation in each of these, so one can't just assume  :)   What type of lianas are you looking at?  And what sort of sunlight?  My understanding is that as a general (but not universal) rule, Landolphias  like sun at any age (and grow significantly faster in the sun, with the downside of tending to adopt a more shrubby habit), while Willughbeias need shade for the first several years.

Good idea to go with steel (galvanized, I assume?).  When you have to hold up what's basically the weight of a whole tree, that's not a time to skimp  ;)  I once had a grape vine crush a wooden trellis, and that was tiny in comparison to how big tropical lianas get. Make sure your anchors are good!  :)

guess find out!  I have a whole bunch of Uvaria Grandiflora seedlings, I'm not particulary crazy about these, but I think I could handle at least one of these on the trellis.  Trying to order some Willughbeia sp. from Maryoto in Borneo.

Some things that grow huge also are very careful and wary as seedlings, like Banyan tree.  Often I find Banyan tree saplings growing wild, and they can be just 6" tall and stay that way for a year.  Many times I have dug them up and put them in pots to prune as Bonsai, and the growth is just stagnant.  Compare that with an Acacia tree which can get 10' tall within a year, but in time the Banyan tree will strangle and eat that Acacia tree.

Here is also some more information, which definitely applies to the papayas here in Thailand.  The female fruit is thinner skinned, more difficult to ripen fully.  My females when they are fully right are very ugly!  The hermies will produce the firmer fruit that can be sliced and diced like cantaloupe.  My female fruit basically cut in half and eat with a spoon, it is very 'soggy', but sweet and delicious.

Also cool note about the males!  My male tree is producing two fruit right now, be curious to taste those! 

Also one of the hermie trees looks like it has a few male flowers, so it seems hermies can also produce female or male flowers on the same plant.

I imagine pretty slow.. have no idea though.  About to build a huge 20mx3m steel trellis, likely 3-4m high and grow some lianas on it.  I don't want them cluttering the farm, so give them a dedicated area which will also serve as a shade nursery later.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sauropus androgynus - Sweet Leaf
« on: April 24, 2018, 08:56:43 PM »
I believe it is the age of the leaf, definitely the young tender leaves should have the white spotting in the center.

By the way, besides the new fee, paypal still takes a hefty profit from the currency exchange. 

For Thailand they always give 1 baht less than what the banks give. It works out to about 3.1%
So the real commission Paypal takes from an international merchant transaction is 4.49% + 0.30$ + 3.1% 

not reasonable in my opinion.

To be honest the fee is pretty minimal.  It's a few percent and then you can print shipping labels at a discount when doing regular "goods and services" transactions.  Seems like not a big problem.  PayPal provides a good service.
Nope. Just used bank account and they still charged me $4.99

Yes, for international this is almost standard, a few countries are $2.99 flat rate now (even on a $1 transfer)

At the beginning of the month funded by balance was still free, and funded by a bank account was only 0.05%, which was very cheap.

When everybody catches up to this story, and believes me, perhaps we can discuss more?  Anybody ordering seeds from Borneo soon?  You will find out, a $10 seed purchase is now $14.99 with the added $4.99 fee for Malaysia.

I do not know about the merchant fees, usually I think international used to be 4.49% + $0.30 or something, I am not sure what it is now.  This would be cheaper than F&F gift transfer if those rates are still the same.

So if sellers in Borneo are asking for gift transfer, the transaction costs more than a merchant invoice.  Let's keep the discussion going.    Why pay a greedy company more for nothing.

I had a Santol tree nearing 45 feet height, and most fruits stayed at the top.  The lowest branches were at 12 and 15 feet.  I topped the tree leaving only those branches.  I prune the crown twice a year to remove shoots, and only now is even starting to show some decent form.  It still hasn't thrown out any lower branches, but the lowest branches I left are naturally dropping down because of their weight, now I can pick some just by walking by.  The tree structure is still 'lopsided' with now growth on one side of the tree.

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I think kind of relevant, since so many international exchange here...  Yesterday was quote $4.99 flat rate plus the exchange spread to send $60.  It was funded by my paypal balance.

Wanted to get some seeds.. so what will we do now... has everybody else been paying the merchant fees, is that how business is done on this forum, or has everybody been doing f&f transfers.

check it out here
just went into effect the other day.

There are alternatives, perhaps admin can design sticky for standardized payment terms, looks like a cheaper alternative, but no buyer protection, but if you doing Paypal F&F there is no buyer protection anyways.

Note, this is just for international, exchanging money within US by bank or balance is still free by Paypal.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The weeds love my mulch
« on: April 21, 2018, 07:52:41 PM »
a nice lawn will keep out the weeds, concentrate on growing good grass, remove the weeds from the grass.  Time consuming, but that is the solution.  Make sure you choose a grass that is not a runner, but if you have crab grass, just let it spread up to the tree, and mow it under the tree.  The grass is not going to harm the tree, and the tree will like the fertilizer provided from mown grass.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Porcelia Nitidifolia
« on: April 21, 2018, 01:47:43 AM »
looks delicious!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Artocarpus collection and spacing
« on: April 21, 2018, 01:44:24 AM »
Artocarpus lacucha - Lakoocha, got two growing now, hoping for good stuff!

Also the Red 'suriya' Jackfruit might be worth planting as well, I got one in the ground, also hoping for good stuff. 

I think a better question is whether all these Artocarpus need sun on the trunk or on the lower branches to be healthy.    I don't know, but you can always do a high production method, plant 4 meters, and cull middle trees to increase spacing to 8-9 meters when they are full grown.  Assuming these all do well where you at Durian would likely do well also...

An understory planting of 'Buuk' would do well in the full shade from these trees, and is a new crop I think rare where you are at.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Durian long lablae grafted tree
« on: April 20, 2018, 09:50:25 PM »
That sounds cool, never been to Uttaradit, but I loved Loie, did a homestay up there in 2006.  I think I lost about 20 lbs of weight, the diet of crickets, bamboo, sticky rice, and the main dish.. chili paste! is very slimming!

no, without hermie or male flower it won't set fruit.  I think female can change to hermie though by stress.  So some people drive nail into the trunk, or cut off the top.  I think a lot is possible.  I think I see a fruit on my male tree, 1 fruit set in 1000 or so flowers.  It is almost 1 year old now that male.

Just wait a week, if it is hermie  you will see some small fruits next week.

for me it looks female, because very few flowers, it has rounded base, and the size of the petals are large.  You can see the stigma coming out, but I don't see any anthers.  The hermaphrodite has anthers fused to the petal walls I believe.. If you cut the flower lengthwise you can really check to see if there are any anthers inside or not.

If you have a hermaphrodite nearby it can pollinate the female, however a male nearby would produce a lot of pollen!  Some fear poor fruit set on females, but my females set more fruit than hermies, and larger fruits, however because they have few seeds inside they are a bit less sweeter and are difficult to ripen because of the big round size.

For that reason I ripen my papayas indoors in a climate controlled room, away from bacteria and pests that would attack the partially ripe areas.  When my female papayas are ripe it is a big mush, but delicious.  The market prefers a more firm papaya.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Durian long lablae grafted tree
« on: April 19, 2018, 07:37:24 AM »
I have heard of Laplei, so there is more than 1 kind of Laplei?

getting 1/2 kg of seeds, they don't have air layers or grafts.  Don't know how many seeds that it is... but I'll just throw them all in one big hole full of compost. 

ok, well I feel like perhaps this is a good variety then, my nuts are likely 1/3 or at best 1/2 the size of the nuts in these pictures.  I'll see if I can get one.

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