Author Topic: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings (Read 24521 times)

EvilFruit · « **on:** June 21, 2015, 12:01:35 PM »

witch finger grape

Cotton candy grape

Thanks

Luisport · « **Reply #1 on:** June 21, 2015, 12:22:15 PM »

What is this? I don't know it...

EvilFruit · « **Reply #2 on:** June 21, 2015, 12:27:34 PM »

Quote from: Luisport on June 21, 2015, 12:22:15 PM

What is this? I don't know it...

http://youtu.be/M1UjUR-zeNI

Luisport · « **Reply #3 on:** June 21, 2015, 01:10:37 PM »

WOW! Never see it!

Jsvand5 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 22, 2015, 04:15:31 PM »

Don't think anyone will have the cotton candy for a long time.

SocalKoop · « **Reply #5 on:** June 22, 2015, 05:11:50 PM »

On occasion i've seen small seeds in these seedless varieties. Might be enough to propogate if you are savy enough. Lord knows Im not at that level.

fyliu · « **Reply #6 on:** June 22, 2015, 09:24:43 PM »

These are unreleased varieties and there's no plan to release them. The breeder just plans to sell it as fruits. Seeds are your best bet.

starling1 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 22, 2015, 09:43:42 PM »

Actually, you can grow grapes from the stems the grapes are attached to. If you can make it work, they will be true unlike seeds.

fyliu · « **Reply #8 on:** June 22, 2015, 10:29:14 PM »

I know you can get a plant from a cell. It's easier to do it from meristem because it's already a tiny shoot that's also ready to put out roots if necessary. Are the cells on the stem easy to coax into turning into a new plant?

I can mail stems to EvilFruit if that's an option.

SocalTropics · « **Reply #9 on:** June 23, 2015, 01:41:16 AM »

when/where do they sell these fruits in socal markets?

EvilFruit · « **Reply #10 on:** June 23, 2015, 09:42:44 AM »

Quote from: starling1 on June 22, 2015, 09:43:42 PM

Actually, you can grow grapes from the stems the grapes are attached to. If you can make it work, they will be true unlike seeds.

You mean these ?!

Doglips · « **Reply #11 on:** June 23, 2015, 10:18:12 AM »

I just tried a cotton Candy grape, if I can remember where....
Too sweet for me.

starling1 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 23, 2015, 12:21:06 PM »

Quote from: EvilFruit on June 23, 2015, 09:42:44 AM

Quote from: starling1 on June 22, 2015, 09:43:42 PM

Actually, you can grow grapes from the stems the grapes are attached to. If you can make it work, they will be true unlike seeds.

You mean these ?!

yep.

SocalKoop · « **Reply #13 on:** June 23, 2015, 02:32:28 PM »

That is really cool, I didn't even consider using the stems.. Thanks Starling!

This is why I joined this forum.. to learn. I'll race you EvilFruit!

So is anything recommended when trying this beyond a fresh cut, a little rooting hormone and crossed fingers?

fyliu · « **Reply #14 on:** June 23, 2015, 03:30:55 PM »

Most likely test tubes with sterilized nutrient gel that contains the hormone. You'd need to surface-sterilize the stems too.
I wouldn't expect a high percentage of success (bacterial contaminations, weak/dead grape cells), so do something like 24 tubes to be safe. Look up the recommended hormone and nutrient mix for grapes. There's usually some research paper on these things.

There are probably people here that's done plants from cell culture. Listen to those people when they speak up. I'm only sharing my perspective from edible mushroom culture with some information I read on plant tissue culture.

jmc96 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 24, 2015, 04:13:11 AM »

I'd be grateful if anyone can/will sell me some cotton candy seeds?

DurianLover · « **Reply #16 on:** June 24, 2015, 10:38:58 AM »

Quote from: jmc96 on June 24, 2015, 04:13:11 AM

I'd be grateful if anyone can/will sell me some cotton candy seeds?

There are no seeds. I had couple kg this year and last year. Cotton Candy is very clean. No underdeveloped seeds.
But if anyone is confident to try their luck with stems, I can send them just for postage cost. You will probably need to get them by EMS before they dry out. And of course I have to find them first. They appear and disappear rather quickly.

Jsvand5 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 24, 2015, 02:10:20 PM »

I think they start coming out around the end of July. You can order directly from the grapery if you can't find them locally.

DurianLover · « **Reply #18 on:** June 24, 2015, 02:39:08 PM »

Quote from: Jsvand5 on June 24, 2015, 02:10:20 PM

I think they start coming out around the end of July. You can order directly from the grapery if you can't find them locally.

I had cotton candy last week. Unmistakable cotton candy bags with higher price go along. Flavor was off and season suppose to start end of next month only. Very strange.

fyliu · « **Reply #19 on:** June 24, 2015, 03:04:38 PM »

Is it a patented variety? Seems like the creator doesn't want it to get out there. The grapes are grown here in SoCal.

EvilFruit · « **Reply #20 on:** June 24, 2015, 06:21:30 PM »

Quote from: fyliu on June 22, 2015, 10:29:14 PM

I know you can get a plant from a cell. It's easier to do it from meristem because it's already a tiny shoot that's also ready to put out roots if necessary. Are the cells on the stem easy to coax into turning into a new plant?

I can mail stems to EvilFruit if that's an option.

I appreciate your offer But i highly doubt it will survive the trip. If you managed to grow CC Grape from a stem, please send me a message.

I'm interested in a few cuttings

Thanks Again

DurianLover · « **Reply #21 on:** June 27, 2015, 06:31:44 PM »

Well, mystery is solved. I was puzzled about Cotton Candy availability last week (when season only starts in August this year), and not impressive flavor at all compared to last year. Turns out they were grown in Mexico, and flavor is inconsistent from young vines. They are being licensed to grow all over the world. Expect them to see in Latin America, Europe, Australia..
There is even newer variety called "Gum drops", and people prefer them over Cotton Candy!!

http://www.eatlikenoone.com/cotton-candy-grapes-from-mexico.htm
http://www.eatlikenoone.com/what-to-expect-from-grapery-in-2015.htm

simon_grow · « **Reply #22 on:** June 28, 2015, 10:32:42 AM »

CC grapes are available at Trader Joes in San Diego now.

Simon

greenman62 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 28, 2015, 12:55:43 PM »

cloning kits are cheaper than one might expect...
kinda neat that anyone can clone a plant now.
i dont have the patience, or space for it though...

https://www.google.com/search?q=plant+tissue+culture%20Cloning%20kit#q=plant+tissue+culture+Cloning+kit&tbm=shop

Dangermouse01 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 13, 2015, 04:29:52 PM »

The local Sam's Club (Melbourne, FL) had Cotton Candy grapes from Mexico, yesterday (7-12), in 3 LB containers for about $8.
The regular green grapes in 3 LB containers were about $5.

DM

fisherking73 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 13, 2015, 07:22:47 PM »

They had these at Publix in South east Florida last year, devoured bag after bag. Had some a few weeks ago while on vacation in North Cali, saw them at a place called Berkley Bowl (in Berkley of course). Saw them, grabbed one, gave it to my cousin to try and asked him what does this taste like, his head snapped back LOL "Holy crap that tastes like cotton candy" Showed em the bag, needless to say he bought several bags for family we had coming into to town to try LOL I have been curious about the witch finger. But gumdrop??

tonythegrower · « **Reply #26 on:** December 21, 2016, 05:29:25 PM »

Quote from: SocalTropics on June 23, 2015, 01:41:16 AM

when/where do they sell these fruits in socal markets?

I was wondering if you can send me these cuttings. I want to try and see if i can grow them myself. i would appreciate it

efletche · « **Reply #27 on:** December 24, 2016, 04:01:54 PM »

Since I am home all day long (very boring), I wouldn't mind trying to propagate from stem cuttings as well, if someone had a few cuttings they could spare.

Jsvand5 · « **Reply #28 on:** December 25, 2016, 04:50:53 PM »

I'm assuming these vines are patented and are not likely to be available any time soon.

bsbullie · « **Reply #29 on:** December 25, 2016, 09:20:38 PM »

Quote from: Jsvand5 on December 25, 2016, 04:50:53 PM

I'm assuming these vines are patented and are not likely to be available any time soon.

http://www.theshelbyreport.com/2011/09/07/grapery-introduces-new-cotton-candy-grapes/

Garcinia · « **Reply #30 on:** December 25, 2016, 10:13:09 PM »

This might give us hope... I'll have to check Berkely (about 1 hour away) but I would also be interested in some stems.

fyliu · « **Reply #31 on:** December 26, 2016, 03:08:29 AM »

It's way past grape season here. I don't think you will find them in the northern hemisphere this time of year.

Good luck to you with propagation. It's something I'd like to do but never got into.

Galka · « **Reply #32 on:** December 26, 2016, 11:44:15 AM »

Do they come true from seeds? I planted some. They are so tiny that I am not sure if they will even sprout at all.

bsbullie · « **Reply #33 on:** December 26, 2016, 01:52:14 PM »

Quote from: Galka on December 26, 2016, 11:44:15 AM

Do they come true from seeds? I planted some. They are so tiny that I am not sure if they will even sprout at all.

You actually found seeds in the Cotton Candy grapes? Were they fully developed?

Galka · « **Reply #34 on:** December 26, 2016, 02:09:37 PM »

Yes, Rob, I have found some and I think they are fully developed. Will see how they sprout. I will report here then.

efletche · « **Reply #35 on:** December 26, 2016, 09:45:35 PM »

I Just ordered Witch Finger Grape (aka Tear Drop) cuttings off Amazon.com . I hope I can get them to grow. Should I try to root them or graft them?

bsbullie · « **Reply #36 on:** December 27, 2016, 12:29:38 AM »

Quote from: efletche on December 26, 2016, 09:45:35 PM

I Just ordered Witch Finger Grape (aka Tear Drop) cuttings off Amazon.com . I hope I can get them to grow. Should I try to root them or graft them?

So you are saying/thinking/assuming the cuttings sold on amazon is the Grapery's Witch's Finger, now kbown as teardrop, grape? No guarantee I am right but being a naysayer and a realist, doubt it is one and the same.

http://www.google.com/patents/US20140013474

efletche · « **Reply #37 on:** December 27, 2016, 12:59:51 PM »

Can't help it, I have hope. Either way, it will give me something to do. I just got home from the beach here in Central Florida and pulled up 8 medium sized papaya plants from a vacant lot (one male, the rest females). Would loved to have gotten the larger ones (they already had fruit on them) but with the heavy fog, they were just too slippery to get a good grip on. Either way, can't beat free plants!!

animegypsy · « **Reply #38 on:** September 15, 2018, 02:43:33 PM »

Did anyone get cuttings or stems to sprout? I'd be interested in buying some if they did.

WaterFowler · « **Reply #39 on:** September 15, 2018, 03:17:56 PM »

Quote from: fyliu on June 24, 2015, 03:04:38 PM

Is it a patented variety? Seems like the creator doesn't want it to get out there. The grapes are grown here in SoCal.

I asked a guy that works with some of the vineyards in Bakersfield to bring me some cuttings. He told me that all commercially grown grape varieties are patented. He said he would bring me a few but not Cotton Candy or some variety called "Mango". He said they were EXTREMELY protective of those varieties and could get in trouble. Told him it was ok, if they were patented I didn't want any, as I didn't want him, or myself for that matter, to have any problems.

Paulish · « **Reply #40 on:** September 15, 2018, 06:51:28 PM »

Quote from: WaterFowler on September 15, 2018, 03:17:56 PM

Quote from: fyliu on June 24, 2015, 03:04:38 PM
Is it a patented variety? Seems like the creator doesn't want it to get out there. The grapes are grown here in SoCal.

I asked a guy that works with some of the vineyards in Bakersfield to bring me some cuttings. He told me that all commercially grown grape varieties are patented. He said he would bring me a few but not Cotton Candy or some variety called "Mango". He said they were EXTREMELY protective of those varieties and could get in trouble. Told him it was ok, if they were patented I didn't want any, as I didn't want him, or myself for that matter, to have any problems.

Ask your friend how much to make it worth the risk; I'll never tell.

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Author Topic: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings (Read 24521 times)