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Re: Premium types ilama seeds (Annona Diversifolia) only once!
« Reply #75 on: October 04, 2017, 12:15:43 AM »
Hi Raul

Cost of 15 hybrid gauva seeds sent by paypal. Please send along with Ilama seeds.

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« Reply #76 on: October 04, 2017, 02:30:58 AM »
Are you suicidal or running away from your wife....LOL...For no amount of money I would go over-there and traveling in a bus at night !!! You have no fear man . Good luck , I'll keep the GA3 ready ....

It took two years to sprout the seeds of annona diversifolia cv. white without Gibberellic acid. Really tough seeds, two years underground without demage.!

2yrs for the seed to sprout?  What if you nip it a bit so that it can absorb water , would that speed up the process?

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« Reply #77 on: October 04, 2017, 03:53:29 AM »
Hola Raul,

by the way, did you have the chance to find Annona globiflora seeds somewhere????!!!! is endemic to Mexico!

All the best,

Giampaolo



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« Reply #78 on: October 04, 2017, 06:40:40 AM »
Hola Raul,

by the way, did you have the chance to find Annona globiflora seeds somewhere????!!!! is endemic to Mexico!

All the best,

Giampaolo


Hi Gianpaolo, never seen or heard off, but will try to investigate and look for it and región whre it grows country is very big and with different climates regards!
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« Reply #79 on: October 04, 2017, 09:04:58 AM »
Are you suicidal or running away from your wife....LOL...For no amount of money I would go over-there and traveling in a bus at night !!! You have no fear man . Good luck , I'll keep the GA3 ready ....

It took two years to sprout the seeds of annona diversifolia cv. white without Gibberellic acid. Really tough seeds, two years underground without demage.!

2yrs for the seed to sprout?  What if you nip it a bit so that it can absorb water , would that speed up the process?

Try using some sand paper on the coat and ga3 with around 50ppm to 200ppm.
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« Reply #80 on: October 04, 2017, 04:21:15 PM »
I sprouted 3 different types of Ilama with 350 ppm ga3 soak for 24 hours. Most or all popped up in two weeks or so. I wouldn't try sprouting these without it.
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« Reply #81 on: October 04, 2017, 09:14:53 PM »
Thanks for the advice Josh!
Your seedlings were healthy and not etiolated?
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« Reply #82 on: October 04, 2017, 10:51:53 PM »
Maybe slightly but nothing extreme.
Thanks for the advice Josh!
Your seedlings were healthy and not etiolated?
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« Reply #83 on: October 05, 2017, 11:56:41 PM »
OK good to know i'll do the same with Raul's seeds
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« Reply #84 on: October 06, 2017, 01:49:10 AM »
This is a dumb question, but how do you measure or estimate something to be 350 ppm? I just bought some acid with a tiny spoon. My dad is gonna germinate these seeds.

Thanks.

I sprouted 3 different types of Ilama with 350 ppm ga3 soak for 24 hours. Most or all popped up in two weeks or so. I wouldn't try sprouting these without it.

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« Reply #85 on: October 06, 2017, 04:45:09 PM »
I weighed mine. You have to dissolve it into alcohol before diluting. I bought mine from ebay.
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« Reply #86 on: October 08, 2017, 08:41:47 AM »
Many thanks Raul, I know for sure the fruit worth the troubles!
It's not that big but the texture and flavour is ok.


Many thanks and keep me update on that if you can,

All the best,

Giampaolo



Hola Raul,

by the way, did you have the chance to find Annona globiflora seeds somewhere????!!!! is endemic to Mexico!

All the best,

Giampaolo


Hi Gianpaolo, never seen or heard off, but will try to investigate and look for it and región whre it grows country is very big and with different climates regards!

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« Reply #87 on: October 08, 2017, 11:44:33 PM »
The price for the seeds is
A) 10 seeds package Pink/red flesh 32 usd including shipping
B) 12 seeds package white flesh 32 usd including shipping
C) 8 red + 8 white seeds 43 usd
Wholesale
A) Over 50 seeds, half pink/red half white at 2 usd each
B) Over 50 seeds unidentified mix of white and pink / red 1.75 usd each
Including shipping
Paypal is raulglezruiz@gmail.com


Hi,

Can you sell 4 seeds of  each variety.

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« Reply #88 on: October 08, 2017, 11:45:31 PM »
The price for the seeds is
A) 10 seeds package Pink/red flesh 32 usd including shipping
B) 12 seeds package white flesh 32 usd including shipping
C) 8 red + 8 white seeds 43 usd
Wholesale
A) Over 50 seeds, half pink/red half white at 2 usd each
B) Over 50 seeds unidentified mix of white and pink / red 1.75 usd each
Including shipping
Paypal is raulglezruiz@gmail.com


Hi,

Can you sell 4 seeds of  each variety.

You have two varieties no?

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« Reply #89 on: October 17, 2017, 10:49:31 PM »
Got my seeds today, 100 of them.  I'm going to throw a few of them into the greenhouse now. Give some to my sister so she can plant them in HI.  And then plant the rest in Feb.

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« Reply #90 on: October 18, 2017, 07:56:19 AM »
Got my seeds today, 100 of them.  I'm going to throw a few of them into the greenhouse now. Give some to my sister so she can plant them in HI.  And then plant the rest in Feb.
Hi Kina, I'm glad you got them, take good care of them! 😄
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« Reply #91 on: October 20, 2017, 01:43:46 AM »
Got my seeds yesterday. Thank you for your efforts Raul! Take care and best regards, Chris

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« Reply #92 on: October 21, 2017, 04:30:14 PM »
Got my seeds yesterday. Thank you for your efforts Raul! Take care and best regards, Chris
Thanks for letting me know, Chris! 😄 take good care of them..
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« Reply #93 on: October 21, 2017, 06:31:35 PM »
Are you suicidal or running away from your wife....LOL...For no amount of money I would go over-there and traveling in a bus at night !!! You have no fear man . Good luck , I'll keep the GA3 ready ....

It took two years to sprout the seeds of annona diversifolia cv. white without Gibberellic acid. Really tough seeds, two years underground without demage.!

2yrs for the seed to sprout?  What if you nip it a bit so that it can absorb water , would that speed up the process?

Try using some sand paper on the coat and ga3 with around 50ppm to 200ppm.

I would not try these without the GA.  I got a couple of lots 2-3 years back from Luc & Raul.  At the time, there was talk about scarifying & I think Adam had suggested trying to remove the seed coat.  I managed to remove 1/2 the seed coat from the seeds without any apparent damage to the seed.  I think even with this course of action, only one germinated (& I lost it anyway).  So, it is not a simple matter of water getting to the seed.  Try the GA.

John

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« Reply #94 on: October 22, 2017, 08:00:04 PM »
Are you suicidal or running away from your wife....LOL...For no amount of money I would go over-there and traveling in a bus at night !!! You have no fear man . Good luck , I'll keep the GA3 ready ....

It took two years to sprout the seeds of annona diversifolia cv. white without Gibberellic acid. Really tough seeds, two years underground without demage.!

2yrs for the seed to sprout?  What if you nip it a bit so that it can absorb water , would that speed up the process?

Try using some sand paper on the coat and ga3 with around 50ppm to 200ppm.

I would not try these without the GA.  I got a couple of lots 2-3 years back from Luc & Raul.  At the time, there was talk about scarifying & I think Adam had suggested trying to remove the seed coat.  I managed to remove 1/2 the seed coat from the seeds without any apparent damage to the seed.  I think even with this course of action, only one germinated (& I lost it anyway).  So, it is not a simple matter of water getting to the seed.  Try the GA.

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Are you suicidal or running away from your wife....LOL...For no amount of money I would go over-there and traveling in a bus at night !!! You have no fear man . Good luck , I'll keep the GA3 ready ....

It took two years to sprout the seeds of annona diversifolia cv. white without Gibberellic acid. Really tough seeds, two years underground without demage.!

2yrs for the seed to sprout?  What if you nip it a bit so that it can absorb water , would that speed up the process?

Try using some sand paper on the coat and ga3 with around 50ppm to 200ppm.

I would not try these without the GA.  I got a couple of lots 2-3 years back from Luc & Raul.  At the time, there was talk about scarifying & I think Adam had suggested trying to remove the seed coat.  I managed to remove 1/2 the seed coat from the seeds without any apparent damage to the seed.  I think even with this course of action, only one germinated (& I lost it anyway).  So, it is not a simple matter of water getting to the seed.  Try the GA.

John


John , you are absolutely right , I got seeds of several varieties from all over the Ilama growing areas in Mexico . Unless you have all the time in your life , GA is the only way to go , I had 100% germination on all in 2 weeks . Some were about 3 weeks in the mail ..didn't make a difference . Actually I am gonna do a lot of test with GA on other seeds that take more than one month to sprout .
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« Reply #95 on: October 23, 2017, 01:49:30 AM »
I just received my seeds. Thank you for your sacrifice Raul! Take care, Chris

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« Reply #96 on: October 23, 2017, 02:01:00 PM »

John , you are absolutely right , I got seeds of several varieties from all over the Ilama growing areas in Mexico . Unless you have all the time in your life , GA is the only way to go , I had 100% germination on all in 2 weeks . Some were about 3 weeks in the mail ..didn't make a difference . Actually I am gonna do a lot of test with GA on other seeds that take more than one month to sprout .

Luc,
Did you scarify the seedcoat in any way or just GA treat?  Do you recall what concentration of GA you used & for how long?  It would be good to compare your methods with others reported here.

Thanks,
John

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« Reply #97 on: October 23, 2017, 02:40:57 PM »
So, should we call these Guerero red and white or is there a local name for these varieties?

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« Reply #98 on: November 20, 2017, 03:16:33 PM »
I don't know if anybody has tried this method for germinating dormant or frustrating seeds, especially Annona.  However if they are similar to Mitrephora and other Annonaceae species then give this a go.

Clean & sterile the seed, wrap in moist chux cloth, place in sealed air tight clear bag and throw that on a heat mat.  Some things just need heat from below.  I was able to reduce the germination and break dormancy.  I.e. some Annonaceae will take up to a year or more to germinate, the above method......4 - 5 weeks.

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« Reply #99 on: November 20, 2017, 06:39:22 PM »

John , you are absolutely right , I got seeds of several varieties from all over the Ilama growing areas in Mexico . Unless you have all the time in your life , GA is the only way to go , I had 100% germination on all in 2 weeks . Some were about 3 weeks in the mail ..didn't make a difference . Actually I am gonna do a lot of test with GA on other seeds that take more than one month to sprout .

Luc,
Did you scarify the seedcoat in any way or just GA treat?  Do you recall what concentration of GA you used & for how long?  It would be good to compare your methods with others reported here.

Thanks,
John

John , I used a 300 to 350 ppm for 24 hours , one scoup ( included in the package ) of the same stuff that Vermented ordered . The first badge of seeds ( white ) were my own fresh from the tree , 100 % germination . All the others , and on these I did not measure precisely the amount of water and some stayed more than 24 hours in the solution , I had about 80 % germination , some may still come up....these took a little longer to sprout .

At the same time I did some Eugenia stipitata , that normally take 3 to 4 months , so far nothing ....
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