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2017 King Of Mango
« on: October 07, 2017, 02:17:40 PM »
What was this years 2017 King of Mangos in your opinion?

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2017, 02:27:53 PM »
Kent from mexico has a coconutty melon taste...

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2017, 02:28:25 PM »
If I had to pick just one, I would say the honor goes to Lemon Zest. The 32 Brix Lemon Zest we had at our latest mango tasting was a reminder why it is my favorite variety of mango. It is supremely sweet with a rich thick velvety smooth mouth feel and an absolutely delicious citrus flavor that intensifies as you get closer to the flesh closest to the skin.

I brought one in to work and split it with 10 people and everyone was floored and said that was the best mango they have ever tasted.

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2017, 02:28:52 PM »

1.Sweet Tart
2. Lemon Zest
3. SeŮorita

No Indian mango we tried can compete
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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2017, 02:35:43 PM »
SimonGrow,

That assessment is a spot on description of Lemon Zest.

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2017, 02:54:02 PM »
Simon
I sort of agree with you but if you would've had the sweet tart I had today, from our friend AZ, you might have had second thoughts. Brix 28 incredible sweet and tangy but unlike LZ the flavor is so concentrated from the first bite to the last. This one catapult over seŮorita and more than challenges the perfect 32 brix Lemon Zest we had in the tasting it beats it

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2017, 03:52:24 PM »
Always a battle for these 2 the ST and the LZ.... Has anyone attempted to cross the two? May be that can be called the Sweet and Sour Mango.. ;D

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2017, 04:04:26 PM »
Anyone selling a Lemon Zest tree or Sweet Tart here in Southern California please PM

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2017, 05:44:42 PM »
One of the Sweet starts that AZ sent home with me after the Mango tasting was one of the best mangos Iíve ever had but I still give the edge to Lemon Zest. I think itís just personal preference and Iím really partial to the citrusy taste of Lemon Zest.

Lemon Zest and Sweet Tart are two of the top favorite mangos in my book but I really like to mix things up to cleanse the palate because these two heavyweights have a knock out punch of sweetness and intense flavor that can overwhelm taste buds. Kesar would be a great palate cleanser in between these two heavyweights and it would hold its own in a top ten list, especially if there are Indian resin flavored Mango lovers on the tasting panel.

The three varieties listed above would make up the Trinity and you can get the four horseman of the apocalypse if you throw in a Coconut flavored Mango such as E4 or Coconut Cream.

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2017, 08:29:21 PM »
One of the Sweet starts that AZ sent home with me after the Mango tasting was one of the best mangos Iíve ever had but I still give the edge to Lemon Zest. I think itís just personal preference and Iím really partial to the citrusy taste of Lemon Zest.

Lemon Zest and Sweet Tart are two of the top favorite mangos in my book but I really like to mix things up to cleanse the palate because these two heavyweights have a knock out punch of sweetness and intense flavor that can overwhelm taste buds. Kesar would be a great palate cleanser in between these two heavyweights and it would hold its own in a top ten list, especially if there are Indian resin flavored Mango lovers on the tasting panel.

The three varieties listed above would make up the Trinity and you can get the four horseman of the apocalypse if you throw in a Coconut flavored Mango such as E4 or Coconut Cream.

Simon

You can get the same citrusy flavor with Mallika so it's not unique to LZ. AZ grows ST on many rootstocks you have to find out where it came from. I've fruited LZ for 5 years and it has had many down years in between. But it terms it of concentrated and intense flavor ST can not be beat. Personal preference is purely subjective but what is certain the predominance of Sweet Tart in the last 4 years
 

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2017, 08:35:58 PM »


I brought one in to work and split it with 10 people and everyone was floored and said that was the best mango they have ever tasted.

Simon


To be fair, I have found that taking any mango that is not a Hayden or Tommy Adkins to work usually results in floored co-workers that claim it's the best they've ever tasted. Most people have never tasted any properly ripened mangoes.
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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2017, 08:29:03 AM »
Dee, that is very true. I also brought Sweet Tart and Valencia Pride in to work that same day and one person said they liked Sweet Tart more because it tasted more like a real Mango.

I canít wait to see how some of the newer varieties such as Cotton Candy and Phoenix will hold up at a mango tasting.

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2017, 08:38:49 AM »
What's the story behind SeŮorita? Origin, lineage, etc.
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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2017, 11:51:45 PM »
What's the story behind SeŮorita? Origin, lineage, etc.
All I can find is that it's a mango from the Philippines?
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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2017, 11:26:13 AM »
What's the story behind SeŮorita? Origin, lineage, etc.
All I can find is that it's a mango from the Philippines?

Itís not from PI itís a seedling from Hispaniola. 
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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2017, 02:47:09 PM »
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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2017, 02:59:59 PM »
Sweet tart

M-17

Duncan

Others were washed out

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2017, 06:16:53 PM »
So many great ones this year

J-12/ "super Julie"
Sweet Tart
Zill 40-26
Cac
Venus
E-4
Son Pari
White Piri
Angie
Coconut Cream


All incredible. I really can't pick one this time. I feel bad for the people who didn't have good mangos.

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2017, 09:28:04 AM »
M-17




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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2017, 09:30:29 AM »
M17 and sweet tart




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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2017, 10:00:44 AM »
M-17




Do tell more. Haven't heard anything about m17.

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2017, 10:06:27 AM »
I didn't have as much as last year but i did have a lot of different types.

LZ (not as good as last year though)
Venus
Coconut Cream (Irma broke the tree)
Pickering (Had and exceptional single specimen from a potted tree)
Valencia Pride (I had some really good mango-y juicy and slightly creaming ones this year)
Valcarrie (First year I had them in quantity)

Few disappointments this year though:
Kathy (from Zills, washed out, tried and different times of ripeness, I'll try again next season)
Fruit Punch (I like it but not as much as i though i would)
 

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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2017, 10:30:38 AM »
According to Rob it's a Carrie seedling but so much better in my opinion

Big round fruit with citrus flavor around skin and seed but much more

Flavors vary with hints of cantaloupe and creamy goodness with many other flavors that come and go

How good is it, we compared it to sweet tart and some bites won






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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2017, 12:27:37 PM »

Few disappointments this year though:
Kathy (from Zills, washed out, tried and different times of ripeness, I'll try again next season)
Fruit Punch (I like it but not as much as i though i would)

Kathy was a big disappointment this year.

Fruit Punch is decent but always been overhyped imo. Not in the same league as some of the Better "new" ones.

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2017, 01:23:50 PM »

Few disappointments this year though:
Kathy (from Zills, washed out, tried and different times of ripeness, I'll try again next season)
Fruit Punch (I like it but not as much as i though i would)

Kathy was a big disappointment this year.

Fruit Punch is decent but always been overhyped imo. Not in the same league as some of the Better "new" ones.

Glad to know it wasn't just me.

I need to try some of these new Indian varieties...next season

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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2017, 01:56:10 PM »
Thanks for the info Squam. According to Rob all Florida mangos this season were a wash. He was tossing boxes of mangos because they were inedible

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2017, 04:52:31 PM »
Thanks for the info Squam. According to Rob all Florida mangos this season were a wash. He was tossing boxes of mangos because they were inedible

Well definitely not for us in West Palm Beach. Mangos from the Western communities in Palm Beach county were often lacking, but those I had from here were terrific outside of a one week or so period at the very beginning of June when we had received excessive rainfall. We got terrific feedback and brix test results were strong as well, so it wasn't just my tastebuds fooling me.

I did get less rain than other areas of south Florida.

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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2017, 06:22:06 PM »

Few disappointments this year though:
Kathy (from Zills, washed out, tried and different times of ripeness, I'll try again next season)
Fruit Punch (I like it but not as much as i though i would)

Kathy was a big disappointment this year.

Fruit Punch is decent but always been overhyped imo. Not in the same league as some of the Better "new" ones.

The first year I had fruit punch, it actually tasted like it and was better than the hype. Every year since, no fruit punch flavour...

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« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2017, 07:26:59 PM »
One of the Sweet starts that AZ sent home with me after the Mango tasting was one of the best mangos Iíve ever had but I still give the edge to Lemon Zest. I think itís just personal preference and Iím really partial to the citrusy taste of Lemon Zest.

Lemon Zest and Sweet Tart are two of the top favorite mangos in my book but I really like to mix things up to cleanse the palate because these two heavyweights have a knock out punch of sweetness and intense flavor that can overwhelm taste buds. Kesar would be a great palate cleanser in between these two heavyweights and it would hold its own in a top ten list, especially if there are Indian resin flavored Mango lovers on the tasting panel.

The three varieties listed above would make up the Trinity and you can get the four horseman of the apocalypse if you throw in a Coconut flavored Mango such as E4 or Coconut Cream.
I read stuff like this, and I get depressed. Where can a mere mortal go to taste such mangos in Los Angeles?


How can one acquire budwood?


I feel like I've been left out of the club!
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« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2017, 07:57:20 PM »
Plenty of people on this forum sell Budwood. Lots would even be open to trade. No harm in asking.
I know I'll be looking for the Fairchild hybrids next year, if there disease resistant as advertised they'll have a place on my canal bank.

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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2017, 09:37:39 PM »
Usually you have to be very active on the forum and contribute to the community. If youíre interested in Mangos, you probably have several varieties growing already and can offer someone else a trade. Squam and Dongeorgio sell scions of most available varieties.

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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2017, 12:10:59 AM »

I read stuff like this, and I get depressed. Where can a mere mortal go to taste such mangos in Los Angeles?

How can one acquire budwood?

I feel like I've been left out of the club!

I am like you, never tasted all these delicious mango varieties described above..., but my time will come as my trees mature...2 brand new varieties -for me- I tasted this year, and many more in a year or two as my trees/scions mature, including LZ and Sweet Tart!
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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2017, 09:24:08 AM »
Any one reporting on the M-4 this year? Is this being supplied to Pine Island or anywhere online yet?

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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2017, 09:36:28 AM »
Any one reporting on the M-4 this year? Is this being supplied to Pine Island or anywhere online yet?

I think this was only available on a limited basis to the public this year.
It will probably be a few years until we know how it is. Same with Phoenix, Cotton Candy etc.

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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2017, 01:21:46 PM »
There aren't any m-4s ready for sale yet

They had some at Excalibur but went fast

Waiting on private grafters and time to get up to size

We will find out at same time as I am waiting also

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2017, 04:55:54 PM »
Any one reporting on the M-4 this year? Is this being supplied to Pine Island or anywhere online yet?

The original tree had an obscene amount of fruit on it this year. But it's been an alternate bearer.


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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2017, 08:00:07 PM »
Any one reporting on the M-4 this year? Is this being supplied to Pine Island or anywhere online yet?

The original tree had an obscene amount of fruit on it this year. But it's been an alternate bearer.

At least 4 of us in California received small 3 gallon M-4 trees.  M-4 has been an extremely slow grower in CA for us, compared to the other newer Zill's varieties Delores, Phoenix, Seacrest, and Ambrosia.
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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2017, 08:15:32 PM »
Any one reporting on the M-4 this year? Is this being supplied to Pine Island or anywhere online yet?

The original tree had an obscene amount of fruit on it this year. But it's been an alternate bearer.

At least 4 of us in California received small 3 gallon M-4 trees.  M-4 has been an extremely slow grower in CA for us, compared to the other newer Zill's varieties Delores, Phoenix, Seacrest, and Ambrosia.

Hey warren, How many flushes have u had on your m4 since u received it?

So far i got 2, 3rd flush is pending.

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Re: 2017 King Of Mango
« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2017, 09:07:08 PM »
Any one reporting on the M-4 this year? Is this being supplied to Pine Island or anywhere online yet?

The original tree had an obscene amount of fruit on it this year. But it's been an alternate bearer.

At least 4 of us in California received small 3 gallon M-4 trees.  M-4 has been an extremely slow grower in CA for us, compared to the other newer Zill's varieties Delores, Phoenix, Seacrest, and Ambrosia.

Hey warren, How many flushes have u had on your m4 since u received it?

So far i got 2, 3rd flush is pending.
1 leaf growth, 1 flower growth which I removed.
Warren

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