Question on maturity for the mango pundits

[CTMIAMI]

I'm clearing a place in my avocado grove to add a few mango trees. I would like recommendation to extend the season. I have Keitt which extends to August-October, and is a good mango. I would like some feed back of mangoes similar to Keitt or even later  in the season that are good for the Dade County soil. From June to August I have plenty.  I value the opinion of people in this forum and do appreciate the assistance.
Thank you

[SWRancher]

Not many choices that are later bearing then Keitt, the only ones I can think of are Neelam and maybe Chok Anon.   

[bsbullie]

Neelam is the only later option i see.  To me, Choc Anon is an average mango at best, and its normal fruiting season is Julyish.  While it can give some off season fruit, as can Nam Doc Mai, it is not a given it will do so, consistantly or even at all so i would not consider it...and like i said, to me i would rather end the season with Neelam and build up the anticipation for the following season.

[Squam256]

I'm clearing a place in my avocado grove to add a few mango trees. I would like recommendation to extend the season. I have Keitt which extends to August-October, and is a good mango. I would like some feed back of mangoes similar to Keitt or even later  in the season that are good for the Dade County soil. From June to August I have plenty.  I value the opinion of people in this forum and do appreciate the assistance.
Thank you

You really won't get fruit later than Keitt other than Neelam some years into October.

If you are looking for just other late-season options....Beverly and Palmer wouldn't be bad choices.

[Tropicdude]

I wouldnt do it, but there are chemical methods I have read about that delay flowering, which would make your mangoes produce later in the season.  Keitts I have seen from mid season to late, I saw a street vendor yesterday, still had a few (not very attractive ) Keitts.   

Here in the tropics you can get them to produce earlier with KNO3, or apply nothing and get a normal late season crop.

I have not seen may post of people saying that Choc Anon is of outstanding quality , actually I do not think I have seen anyone, guess they are only good if you compare them against nothing else.

Rapoza and Osteen are supposed to be "late" but Keitt is probably a later in the season variety.
are you looking for something commercial? or just for personal use?

I am thinking of getting a Neelam, for a late season back yard mango.  no need for me to grow Keitt as this is the main commercial variety here, and are sold everywhere.

What do you have as an early season?  have read that Rosigold is a decent very early cultivar.

[zands]

I'm clearing a place in my avocado grove to add a few mango trees. I would like recommendation to extend the season. I have Keitt which extends to August-October, and is a good mango. I would like some feed back of mangoes similar to Keitt or even later  in the season that are good for the Dade County soil. From June to August I have plenty.  I value the opinion of people in this forum and do appreciate the assistance.
Thank you

What are your August mango trees?

[bsbullie]

Just throwing this out there to everyone...when looking into varieties that are no a "given" in terms of quality fruit, it may be best to taste the fruit before investing money, time, space, etc.  I say this cause while all tastes are subjective, Beverly, Palmer, Osteen (which I have only had one or two), and Rosigod (I think liked by some just due to its early harvest, IMO) are easily in my lower tier mangoes in terms of quality.  Hell, Kent and Keitt are pretty much down there as well...and while I would have Neelam in my upper tier, there are many who don't like it (not sure why but maybe because of its "strong" Indian flavor and very sweet, lacking acidity).  If you like Mallika, you will most likely like Neelam.

[CTMIAMI]

This is the planned line up so far  I'm making room for 8 trees. These will be for personal not commercial use..
 
St Maui
Coconut Cream
Pickering
Glenn
Kent
Lancetilla
Keitt

 Rosigold I'm thinking about it but would like to try it.

[Tropicalgrower89]

This is the planned line up so far  I'm making room for 8 trees. These will be for personal not commercial use..
 
St Maui
Coconut Cream
Pickering
Glenn
Kent
Lancetilla
Keitt

 Rosigold I'm thinking about it but would like to try it.

I would strongly suggest adding a lemon zest mango to your list. 

[bsbullie]

This is the planned line up so far  I'm making room for 8 trees. These will be for personal not commercial use..
 
St Maui
Coconut Cream
Pickering
Glenn
Kent
Lancetilla
Keitt

 Rosigold I'm thinking about it but would like to try it.

I would strongly suggest adding a lemon zest mango to your list. 

Alexi - have you tasted LZ?

[Tropicalgrower89]

This is the planned line up so far  I'm making room for 8 trees. These will be for personal not commercial use..
 
St Maui
Coconut Cream
Pickering
Glenn
Kent
Lancetilla
Keitt

 Rosigold I'm thinking about it but would like to try it.

I would strongly suggest adding a lemon zest mango to your list. 

Alexi - have you tasted LZ?

Yes I did. Last year when I stopped by Jeff's place, Elsy gave me a piece of an LZ mango, along with a slice of NDM mango.  At first, I just bought the pace mamey and the ndm #4 mango tree. I didn't have the space for a lemon zest tree. After a while I decided to move my valencia pride to the front yard to make space for an LZ tree even though I don't like having fruit trees in the front yard. I couldn't resist. 

[bsbullie]

This is the planned line up so far  I'm making room for 8 trees. These will be for personal not commercial use..
 
St Maui
Coconut Cream
Pickering
Glenn
Kent
Lancetilla
Keitt

 Rosigold I'm thinking about it but would like to try it.

I would strongly suggest adding a lemon zest mango to your list. 

Alexi - have you tasted LZ?

Yes I did. Last year when I stopped by Jeff's place, Elsy gave me a piece of an LZ mango, along with a slice of NDM mango.  At first, I just bought the pace mamey and the ndm #4 mango tree. I didn't have the space for a lemon zest tree. After a while I decided to move my valencia pride to the front yard to make space for an LZ tree even though I don't like having fruit trees in the front yard. I couldn't resist. 

Good, just making sure 

[zands]

Who wants long mango season will do well with these three (Tinker to Evers to Chance)       Do I have all three? Yes I do. Plus some other ones.
http://togofcoralgables.blogspot.com/2008/05/mango-season-in-south-florida.html

His three mango trees (in Miami) to extend the season are 10-20-25 years old and are>>>

• Glenn  (early)
• Nam Doc Mai   (mid)
• Gold Nugget aka Golden Nugget   (late)

To go further (in SE Florida growing conditions)

• Keitt goes later than Gold Nugget
• Rosigold is earlier than Glenn  (others are also earlier than Glenn)

[bsbullie]

Who wants long mango season will do well with these three (Tinker to Evers to Chance)       Do I have all three? Yes I do. Plus some other ones.
http://togofcoralgables.blogspot.com/2008/05/mango-season-in-south-florida.html

His three mango trees to extend the season are at 10-20-25 years old and are>>>

• Glenn
• Nam Doc Mai
• Gold Nugget aka Golden Nugget

How do those extend the season?  Golden Nugget, meh...Neelam is a better choice, hands down.

[bsbullie]

This is the planned line up so far  I'm making room for 8 trees. These will be for personal not commercial use..
 
St Maui
Coconut Cream
Pickering
Glenn
Kent
Lancetilla
Keitt

 Rosigold I'm thinking about it but would like to try it.

Have you tasted Lancetilla?  If not, I would highly reconsider this choice if you have not already planted it.  For an early season, while it can be a somewhat shy bearer however since you say these are for personal use, I would consider Edward for your early season mango.

Other mangoes to consider:  Mahachanok, Southern Blush, Mallika, Cushman, Dot, Harvest Moon, Angie, Coc, Gary and PPK/Lemon Meringue to name a few.

[Squam256]

This is the planned line up so far  I'm making room for 8 trees. These will be for personal not commercial use..
 
St Maui
Coconut Cream
Pickering
Glenn
Kent
Lancetilla
Keitt

 Rosigold I'm thinking about it but would like to try it.

Looks good, but don't plant Lancetilla. You're just going to wind up cutting it down or top working it.

[JF]

This is the planned line up so far  I'm making room for 8 trees. These will be for personal not commercial use..
 
St Maui
Coconut Cream
Pickering
Glenn
Kent
Lancetilla
Keitt

 Rosigold I'm thinking about it but would like to try it.

Hi Carlos

I've been fortunate to try all of the mangos in your list except St Maui. I'm not a mango expert like Rob or Zand but I would cross out the Lancetilla. For a late mango, I would recommend the California Lemon Zest, Thompson mango.This mango has a firm sweet taste, fiberless, with a light lemony aftertaste. I've had three rounds of Thompsons in the last 6 week and it seems the longer they are on the tree the better they taste.Here is a pic of one I ate this evening.

[bangkok]

Thai people told me that if you graft any species on a chokanon the new species might also fruit more times a year. I 'm trying this on a potted chokanon but i dont have results yet. Did anyone try this allready?

For me chokanon is not very special but i can eat it. Another one that comes out of normal season here is Brahm kai mea (i think thats the one i mean) which is a very nice green mango. It is not very sweet, but very crunchy and makes you cannot stop eating it. We liked to eat it as a snack but the tree has died by   stemborers unfortenately and we never knew what species it was. By seeing pictures i guess it is Brahm kai mea which i m grafting on my big (3-4metre) ndm's now.

[bsbullie]

JF - you reference Thompson as the "California Lemon Zest" cause it has a light lemony aftertaste"....problem with that comparison is that THE Lemon Zest does NOT have any lemon taste at all.  It has an orange-orange/cream flavor.

I would also not base what is late in Cali or Hawaii to being late in SFla.  I have also not seen Thompson in this area...there must be a reason for this.

[zands]

Who wants long mango season will do well with these three (Tinker to Evers to Chance)       Do I have all three? Yes I do. Plus some other ones.
http://togofcoralgables.blogspot.com/2008/05/mango-season-in-south-florida.html

His three mango trees to extend the season are at 10-20-25 years old and are>>>

• Glenn
• Nam Doc Mai
• Gold Nugget aka Golden Nugget

How do those extend the season?  Golden Nugget, meh...Neelam is a better choice, hands down.

Just for the record for Broward County Florida--

• August 19th 2012 ate last Gold Nugget from my tree
• September 29th 2012 ate last Keitt that came from neighbor's tree
• September 30th 2011 ate two last Keitt from my tree. Were picked 9 days previously because animals were attacking my last Keitts after leaving them alone that season. They tasted very good. My own Keitt put out no 2012 fruit.
• All those last 2011 and 2012 Keitts tasted good even though some say the last Keitts are inferior. Last Gold Nugget good too
• BTW I kept records 2011 and 2012, not just going by memory

[CTMIAMI]

New line up base on recomendation

Trees I now  have in pots
St Maui
Coconut Cream
Pickering
Glenn
Keitt

Looking to add
Kent
Neelam
Rosigold
Gold Nuget

[zands]

New line up base on recomendation

Trees I now  have in pots
St Maui
Coconut Cream
Pickering
Glenn
Keitt

Looking to add
Kent
Neelam
Rosigold
Gold Nuget

My 2012 diary shows last Kent picked August 2, let ripen inside until August 6th. Eaten August 6th. Did not write it down but I think that last Kent could have been left on the tree longer (3-4-5 days) but I was afraid it would be stolen because the Kent tree is near the street

[bsbullie]

New line up base on recomendation

Trees I now  have in pots
St Maui
Coconut Cream
Pickering
Glenn
Keitt

Looking to add
Kent
Neelam
Rosigold
Gold Nuget

My 2012 diary shows last Kent picked August 2, let ripen inside until August 6th. Eaten August 6th. Did not write it down but I think that last Kent could have been left on the tree longer (3-4-5 days) but I was afraid it would be stolen because the Kent tree is near the street

Kents in Palm Beach County went much further into August.  Not a fan of Kent, Keitt or Golden Nugget.  While they can be good, their flavor profile is not my favorite plus after eating all the mangoes in May, June and July, I kind of get mango burnout.  They must be really good for me to like them.  For late season, I do look forward to Neelam and this year I really loved the "Oh Too" or O-2 along with the "Mounds" from Zills.

[zands]

Kents in Palm Beach County went much further into August.  Not a fan of Kent, Keitt or Golden Nugget.  While they can be good, their flavor profile is not my favorite plus after eating all the mangoes in May, June and July, I kind of get mango burnout.  They must be really good for me to like them.  For late season, I do look forward to Neelam and this year I really loved the "Oh Too" or O-2 along with the "Mounds" from Zills.

Not a fan of Kent, Keitt or Golden Nugget
I like them all. Broward is warmer than PBC so PBC mangoes ripen slightly later. I am hoping as my Kent tree gets larger and older I will have more fruits so will have more mid August mangoes. 

[cuban007]

Rob, I have a couple of questions for you:

I have noticed that in a few occasions, you have mentioned the Neelam. What makes this mango so good? The fact that is a late season mango?
Is the Lemon Zest the same as Orange Sherbet?
Also, Southern Blush, Pineapple Pleasure, Pina Colada, these are some that I am thinking to add to my collection, how do you rate them as far as taste.
Is the O -2 and the Mound available for sale anywhere?

[JF]

JF - you reference Thompson as the "California Lemon Zest" cause it has a light lemony aftertaste"....problem with that comparison is that THE Lemon Zest does NOT have any lemon taste at all.  It has an orange-orange/cream flavor.

I would also not base what is late in Cali or Hawaii to being late in SFla.  I have also not seen Thompson in this area...there must be a reason for this.

Bully - you are being redundant.I've read all the tidbits about LZ vs OS in this board and the old GW....don't worry, nobody trying to take your mango supremacy. Our friend Carlos is looking for a late mango and Thompson pass the minimum late mango threshold.

[bsbullie]

JF - you reference Thompson as the "California Lemon Zest" cause it has a light lemony aftertaste"....problem with that comparison is that THE Lemon Zest does NOT have any lemon taste at all.  It has an orange-orange/cream flavor.

I would also not base what is late in Cali or Hawaii to being late in SFla.  I have also not seen Thompson in this area...there must be a reason for this.

Bully - you are being redundant.I've read all the tidbits about LZ vs OS in this board and the old GW....don't worry, nobody trying to take your mango supremacy. Our friend Carlos is looking for a late mango and Thompson pass the minimum late mango threshold.

Not sure what you mean but what I was doing was clarifying a statement you made that is NOT accurate.  Coin it what you want but by your description it in no way would have any similarities to the LZ (again, LZ does not have any lemon flavor).

I will also reiterate, and anybody from SFla please feel free to chime in, but I have not seen a Thompson growing around here.  In addition, an equal comparison can not be made with respect to a mangoes growth in Cali vs SFla.  Climate is different and growth habits are different...hell, looks of the mangoes (the fruit) are different and I bet the taste is at least slightly different (though I can not confirm this).

[bsbullie]

JF - please let me clarify as I am not trying to put the Thompson down or your tastes, especially when and how it is grown in Cali.  What I am trying to say is that not every mango that grows in Cali is guaranteed to grow and produce the same in SFla.  It might be worse, might not fruit at all or might even be better.  BUT, being that is not widely grown or available here would leave me believe in the latter.

Look, you fruit cherimoya and we don't, plain and simple.  We seem to have better success with jackfruit.  This is not uncommon that different locales have better success with different fruit, whether it be different species or different varieties of the same species.  It is what it is and no reason to get defensive about it as my statement was in no way personal.

[JF]

JF - you reference Thompson as the "California Lemon Zest" cause it has a light lemony aftertaste"....problem with that comparison is that THE Lemon Zest does NOT have any lemon taste at all.  It has an orange-orange/cream flavor.

I would also not base what is late in Cali or Hawaii to being late in SFla.  I have also not seen Thompson in this area...there must be a reason for this.

Bully - you are being redundant.I've read all the tidbits about LZ vs OS in this board and the old GW....don't worry, nobody trying to take your mango supremacy. Our friend Carlos is looking for a late mango and Thompson pass the minimum late mango threshold.

Not sure what you mean but what I was doing was clarifying a statement you made that is NOT accurate.  Coin it what you want but by your description it in no way would have any  to the LZ (again, LZ does not have any lemon flavor).

I will also reiterate, and anybody from SFla please feel free to chime in, but I have not seen a Thompson growing around here.  In addition, an equal comparison can not be made with respect to a mangoes growth in Cali vs SFla.  Climate is different and growth habits are different...hell, looks of the mangoes (the fruit) are different and I bet the taste is at least slightly different (though I can not confirm this).

Ok Rob, so you where slightly annoyed by the inaccuracy of the description of the LZ? I don't understand, I was describing the Thompson. I don't have the slightest idea why you haven't heard of anyone in Florida growing a Thompson. I can tell you this, it's a big oversight because Thompson is one of the best tasting late mango I've had.....and climate does matter, the variation between day and night temps improve fruit quality.

[bsbullie]

JF - you reference Thompson as the "California Lemon Zest" cause it has a light lemony aftertaste"....problem with that comparison is that THE Lemon Zest does NOT have any lemon taste at all.  It has an orange-orange/cream flavor.

I would also not base what is late in Cali or Hawaii to being late in SFla.  I have also not seen Thompson in this area...there must be a reason for this.

Bully - you are being redundant.I've read all the tidbits about LZ vs OS in this board and the old GW....don't worry, nobody trying to take your mango supremacy. Our friend Carlos is looking for a late mango and Thompson pass the minimum late mango threshold.

Not sure what you mean but what I was doing was clarifying a statement you made that is NOT accurate.  Coin it what you want but by your description it in no way would have any  to the LZ (again, LZ does not have any lemon flavor).

I will also reiterate, and anybody from SFla please feel free to chime in, but I have not seen a Thompson growing around here.  In addition, an equal comparison can not be made with respect to a mangoes growth in Cali vs SFla.  Climate is different and growth habits are different...hell, looks of the mangoes (the fruit) are different and I bet the taste is at least slightly different (though I can not confirm this).

Ok Rob, so you where slightly annoyed by the inaccuracy of the description of the LZ? I don't understand, I was describing the Thompson. I don't have the slightest idea why you haven't heard of anyone in Florida growing a Thompson. I can tell you this, it's a big oversight because Thompson is one of the best tasting late mango I've had.....and climate does matter, the variation between day and night temps improve fruit quality.

No, I wasn't annoyed but I feel it was a poor usage of words ("California Lemon Zest"), especially when one post specifically mentioned Lemon Zest, a named variety with no relationship to Thompson.  With all of the growers and the over 100 varieties around here, I have to doubt its an oversight.  That would be basically calling these people dumb or uneducated.

[JF]

JF - you reference Thompson as the "California Lemon Zest" cause it has a light lemony aftertaste"....problem with that comparison is that THE Lemon Zest does NOT have any lemon taste at all.  It has an orange-orange/cream flavor.

I would also not base what is late in Cali or Hawaii to being late in SFla.  I have also not seen Thompson in this area...there must be a reason for this.

Bully - you are being redundant.I've read all the tidbits about LZ vs OS in this board and the old GW....don't worry, nobody trying to take your mango supremacy. Our friend Carlos is looking for a late mango and Thompson pass the minimum late mango threshold.

Not sure what you mean but what I was doing was clarifying a statement you made that is NOT accurate.  Coin it what you want but by your description it in no way would have any  to the LZ (again, LZ does not have any lemon flavor).

I will also reiterate, and anybody from SFla please feel free to chime in, but I have not seen a Thompson growing around here.  In addition, an equal comparison can not be made with respect to a mangoes growth in Cali vs SFla.  Climate is different and growth habits are different...hell, looks of the mangoes (the fruit) are different and I bet the taste is at least slightly different (though I can not confirm this).

Ok Rob, so you where slightly annoyed by the inaccuracy of the description of the LZ? I don't understand, I was describing the Thompson. I don't have the slightest idea why you haven't heard of anyone in Florida growing a Thompson. I can tell you this, it's a big oversight because Thompson is one of the best tasting late mango I've had.....and climate does matter, the variation between day and night temps improve fruit quality.

No, I wasn't annoyed but I feel it was a poor usage of words ("California Lemon Zest"), especially when one post specifically mentioned Lemon Zest, a named variety with no relationship to Thompson.  With all of the growers and the over 100 varieties around here, I have to doubt its an oversight.  That would be basically calling these people dumb or uneducated.

Rob

Thanks for the clarification. I think there was a misunderstanding. I don't want to muddy the mango waters again so I'll drop the California LZ

[JF]

JF - you reference Thompson as the "California Lemon Zest" cause it has a light lemony aftertaste"....problem with that comparison is that THE Lemon Zest does NOT have any lemon taste at all.  It has an orange-orange/cream flavor.

I would also not base what is late in Cali or Hawaii to being late in SFla.  I have also not seen Thompson in this area...there must be a reason for this.

Bully - you are being redundant.I've read all the tidbits about LZ vs OS in this board and the old GW....don't worry, nobody trying to take your mango supremacy. Our friend Carlos is looking for a late mango and Thompson pass the minimum late mango threshold.

Not sure what you mean but what I was doing was clarifying a statement you made that is NOT accurate.  Coin it what you want but by your description it in no way would have any  to the LZ (again, LZ does not have any lemon flavor).

I will also reiterate, and anybody from SFla please feel free to chime in, but I have not seen a Thompson growing around here.  In addition, an equal comparison can not be made with respect to a mangoes growth in Cali vs SFla.  Climate is different and growth habits are different...hell, looks of the mangoes (the fruit) are different and I bet the taste is at least slightly different (though I can not confirm this).

Ok Rob, so you where slightly annoyed by the inaccuracy of the description of the LZ? I don't understand, I was describing the Thompson. I don't have the slightest idea why you haven't heard of anyone in Florida growing a Thompson. I can tell you this, it's a big oversight because Thompson is one of the best tasting late mango I've had.....and climate does matter, the variation between day and night temps improve fruit quality.

No, I wasn't annoyed but I feel it was a poor usage of words ("California Lemon Zest"), especially when one post specifically mentioned Lemon Zest, a named variety with no relationship to Thompson.  With all of the growers and the over 100 varieties around here, I have to doubt its an oversight.  That would be basically calling these people dumb or uneducated.

No, Rob. I would never disrespect any of the growers or breeders in the great state of Florida but I would certainly hope you reciprocate the same feeling towards Paul Thompson the founder of CRFG.

[bsbullie]

JF - you reference Thompson as the "California Lemon Zest" cause it has a light lemony aftertaste"....problem with that comparison is that THE Lemon Zest does NOT have any lemon taste at all.  It has an orange-orange/cream flavor.

I would also not base what is late in Cali or Hawaii to being late in SFla.  I have also not seen Thompson in this area...there must be a reason for this.

Bully - you are being redundant.I've read all the tidbits about LZ vs OS in this board and the old GW....don't worry, nobody trying to take your mango supremacy. Our friend Carlos is looking for a late mango and Thompson pass the minimum late mango threshold.

Not sure what you mean but what I was doing was clarifying a statement you made that is NOT accurate.  Coin it what you want but by your description it in no way would have any  to the LZ (again, LZ does not have any lemon flavor).

I will also reiterate, and anybody from SFla please feel free to chime in, but I have not seen a Thompson growing around here.  In addition, an equal comparison can not be made with respect to a mangoes growth in Cali vs SFla.  Climate is different and growth habits are different...hell, looks of the mangoes (the fruit) are different and I bet the taste is at least slightly different (though I can not confirm this).

Ok Rob, so you where slightly annoyed by the inaccuracy of the description of the LZ? I don't understand, I was describing the Thompson. I don't have the slightest idea why you haven't heard of anyone in Florida growing a Thompson. I can tell you this, it's a big oversight because Thompson is one of the best tasting late mango I've had.....and climate does matter, the variation between day and night temps improve fruit quality.

No, I wasn't annoyed but I feel it was a poor usage of words ("California Lemon Zest"), especially when one post specifically mentioned Lemon Zest, a named variety with no relationship to Thompson.  With all of the growers and the over 100 varieties around here, I have to doubt its an oversight.  That would be basically calling these people dumb or uneducated.

No, Rob. I would never disrespect any of the growers or breeders in the great state of Florida but I would certainly hope you reciprocate the same feeling towards Paul Thompson the founder of CRFG.

I do and that is why I made the distinction of that it may not necessarily be the same or right in Florida.  As you know there are a number of varieties that are grown in Cali but not in Florida...and there has to be a distinct reason for it.

[Tim]

Put down the keyboards and slowly back away from your computers

Allow me to chime in here...

It's actually Thomson without the P...  Does that help resolve which mango tastes better?

[zands]

I'm clearing a place in my avocado grove to add a few mango trees. I would like recommendation to extend the season. I have Keitt which extends to August-October, and is a good mango. I would like some feed back of mangoes similar to Keitt or even later  in the season that are good for the Dade County soil. From June to August I have plenty.  I value the opinion of people in this forum and do appreciate the assistance.
Thank you

Extending the mango season is at least as important as buying & planting the best kind, best tasting, which can be debated endlessly. If you have tasted various mangoes and read what the favorites are here >>>> What good is it if 95% of your mangoes are ripe during the big mango months? Mid June into July seems to be the mango rush hour in Broward in SE Florida.  So the question becomes >>>> What mangoes do you have outside the rush hour?

I wish I had some earlier mangoes. Right now my Glenns are my reliable early mango coming in first week of June.  I will be paying attention in 2013, seeing what the reports are here for early mangoes.

[JF]

Put down the keyboards and slowly back away from your computers

Allow me to chime in here...

It's actually Thomson without the P...  Does that help resolve which mango tastes better?

a grammar freak  Seriously, I don't know why people get so antsy about mangos....I would have no objection if someone equated a California mango to theirs, in fact I would take it as a compliment.