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Canarian March update
« on: March 25, 2012, 05:28:09 PM »
A few happenings in March:

One Pantin Mamey, which is not looking very good. It has been for two years in ground.


Nam Dok Mai mango:


Nectarine flowering after getting 0 chill hours:


Argelino loquat:


Green zapote:


Ataulfo mango:


Pacay (Inga feuillei):


Guanabana in brief dormancy:


Musa cv. Nang Phaya ready to get in ground:

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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 05:39:47 PM »
Great pictures felipe. Your pantin looks like some of my seedlings that have been stunted with very small new leaves and no real new growth.  I am suspecting one or several micro deficiencies but waiting for results of a soil test.  What kind of soil do you have?  Dave

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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2012, 05:50:46 PM »
Hi Felipe :),

Awesome pics and the Nam doc mai looks fabulous!!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 06:18:11 PM »
Se te ve todo muy bien Felipe! Are there any fruiting guanabanas in Canary Islands??

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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 06:42:55 PM »
Green sapote and Loquat looking good, love the pictures. It looks dry out there, do you mulch regularly?
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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 08:27:25 PM »
Nice pictures Felipe.  I thought you guys didn't have green sapote over there and that's why you needed budwood from mine.  Heck, yours looks better than mine.

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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2012, 06:10:55 AM »
Nice pictures Felipe.  I thought you guys didn't have green sapote over there and that's why you needed budwood from mine.  Heck, yours looks better than mine.
Harry

Hi Harry,

That's a green sapote seedling sourced from Oscar's seeds.
There are a few plants of that same seed batch growing in southern Portugal.
As far as we know, there are no fruiting/mature green sapotes this side of the ocean.
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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2012, 08:05:20 AM »
Nice pictures Felipe.  I thought you guys didn't have green sapote over there and that's why you needed budwood from mine.  Heck, yours looks better than mine.
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Hi Harry,

That's a green sapote seedling sourced from Oscar's seeds.
There are a few plants of that same seed batch growing in southern Portugal.
As far as we know, there are no fruiting/mature green sapotes this side of the ocean.

Ahhhhh.....I see.  Thanks for the info.

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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2012, 08:31:27 AM »
Hi Felipe,

What rootstock is Mamey on?
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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 08:34:08 AM »
beautiful pics felipe. thanks for posting

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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2012, 03:27:00 PM »
Those look like some happy trees!  How is the taste and color of the Argelino loquats?  I have a young Angelino and wonder if maybe someone mixed up the spelling of it before I got it?  What was your winter low?

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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2012, 03:44:54 PM »
Dave, I'm not sure about my soil composition. I don't think this mamey has a micronutrient problem, because I have been fertilizing it. Other Pouterias are doing fine.

JF, everything is doing fine but this damn mamey. I will give it another year, but in the meantime I will plant out a few others ;) Yes, guanabana does fruit here, in fact I have a bigger speciment producing.

Nullzy, I mulch whenever I get organic stuff. Two years ago I ordered a whole truck. I think it's time to do it again. See a pic from a chirimoya after mulching:



Harry, Sergio is right. I have three seedlings in ground which came from seeds Oscar sold me. The research station in Tenerife has also three seedlings from the same age, but the seeds came from Honduras. So there is no fruiting specimen in Canary Islands that I know of. By the way, none of the GS grafts did take :( Here is a recent picture of the trees in the research station (they do not prone them, but I did):



Steven, the rootstock is a Pantin seedling ;)

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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2012, 04:02:47 PM »
Thank Ethan! I guess someone mixed up Argelino with Angelino. I have not tasted many cultivars, but I would say it's a nice one when properly ripe. I like loquat because it fruits when only a few other species are fruiting ;)

This lowest temperature was around 52 degrees Farenheit very early in the morning. No plant gets harmed, but some tropicals get 'sleepy'... LOL

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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2012, 04:05:01 PM »
Hi Felipe,

Oh, I thought your Patin Mamey was on Lucuma rootstock!
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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2012, 04:10:55 PM »
No Steven, this guy is on lucuma roostock ;)



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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2012, 04:47:45 PM »
Thanks for the pic :), The tree looks very healthy and has flowers too!

I really want to visit the ''Instituto Canario De Investigaciones Agrarias''! maybe, this year I will go there! BTW do you need to make an appointment to visit this place?

Why didn't you get the Patin Mamey on Lucuma R.S?
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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2012, 05:34:00 PM »
I would higly recomend you visiting them! It is open to public, but maybe a friend of mine could guide you ;)

I didn't ask for a mamey on lucuma, because I don't find special interest in it. Lucuma does not perform better then other Pouterias in my location. Anyways, they are still makings trials the the rootstock compatibility. Let's see how those grafted plants perform in a few years..

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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2012, 05:42:03 PM »
Felipe,

Are you growing any nitrogen fixing trees/shrubs (*edit*, just saw your growing Inga feuillei)? It may be best to produce your own green manure with a drought tolerant nitrogen fixing tree/shrub. Could then start producing a great mulch/compost.
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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2012, 07:49:13 PM »
Hi Felipe, when you get a chance would be good idea to graft on some scions onto that seedling green sapote. My seedling sapotes are taking for ever to fruit. Even the grafted ones are not going to break the speed barrier!
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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2012, 03:32:42 AM »
Hey Felipe,

Thanks for sharing Pictures of your Fruit Trees.  You have got a Great eclectic collection of trees.....what a variety!!!  They all look to be quite happy and healthy.  I love the Green Sapote.

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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2012, 12:42:47 PM »
I would higly recomend you visiting them! It is open to public, but maybe a friend of mine could guide you ;)

I didn't ask for a mamey on lucuma, because I don't find special interest in it. Lucuma does not perform better then other Pouterias in my location. Anyways, they are still makings trials the the rootstock compatibility. Let's see how those grafted plants perform in a few years..

That's awesome thanks!!!, I will keep you posted! :)

Good point!, The Instituto Canario De Investigaciones Agrarias are doing fanstic work over there!!! so, we will hope for the best!!!  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2012, 01:10:21 AM »
Felipe - your place looks dry dry dry - like where I live....
How many inches of rain you get each year?

But the plants seem to love what you're doing....
keep it up!

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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2012, 07:01:23 AM »
Awesome plants!
It's nice how everything is healty and green despite the arid landscape.
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Re: Canarian March update
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2012, 06:41:44 PM »
Oscar, I'm also afraid, that this species could take some time to fruit. Last summer the Canarian research institute introduced 6 grafted plants from PIN nursery. None survived. A few month ago they got budwood from Harry, but again no success. But while my seedlings grow, I will keep on trying to get some plant material ;)

Thanks Jacob, but I would never had such a collection if I hadn't the inpiration from frutoholics like you ;) You trully have a treasure in your greenhouse! :)

Steven, FYI, I will be visiting them next May..

Gracias Mangoperro :) we get an average of 5,5 inches of rain in a year, but last 12 month have been really dry! But I think it is not as hot as your location and humidity is a little higher (average of 45% by day, 90% by night).

Grazie Pan ;)

 

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