The Tropical Fruit Forum

for some reason i cant add more pics ?


getting my first Acerola fruits.
Mutingia fruits should be ripe by next week.
have 2 fruit on my Florigon Mango.

2 Elaeagnus latifolia seedlings popped up.

Mulberry is finished, but i had found 3 large trees at Wall-Mart parking lot.
2 blacks and a white.
The must have been planted. sweet / subacid, fat and fairly long.
i was a pig every other day for 2 weeks.

gauva + yellow guava are flowering like mad.
Fig tree is full of fruit.

I am thinking the Mutingia and Acerola may go well together Smoothie ?


Acerola - - - Baobob - - - Black Sapote


Cherimoya+black sapote  - - - Natal Plum seedlings


Elaeagnus latifolia  - - - Fig  - - - Florigon Mango


Front yard   -  - -  Mex Cream guava   - - -  Mex Cream fruiting - container.



   - -  Ice Cream Banana   - -  Jaboticaba seedling


Jujube    - - -  Kiwi    - - -   LSU purple Fig


Mango    - -   


Mulberry     - -   Muscadine

here are my plants
the weather had said the lowest temp would be 36F
so, i didnt worry about protecting them.
it must have gotten to 32F. there was a thin layer of ice in the early morning
on a few leaves etc...
plants in my fornt yard containers were NOT damaged...
i am guessing the concrete held in some warmth

a jackfruit in a container (in the grass) lost about 1/2 its leaves
while the other Jack, in the ground, was fine...


Black Sapote. purple coloration on leaves
last time i saw this i had lost the plant completely
but it doesnt look as bad this time...


Ice Cream Banana... burned leaves.


Jackfruit in ground.


Jack container


mango


Guava (purple leaves) and Mango


Guava and Jabo


Starfruit... high winds and cold temps
make the leaves look like hell, but it hadnt lost them


Strawberry tree (Mutingia Calabura)
hates high winds, and cold temps
but damage is not significant.


Mamey

i have several Pomegranite, fig and mulberries
normally, they drop leaves by now.

some i have now are new species
like the mulberry (trade), i have no name for
may be everbearing and supposed to keep its leaves ? or not ?

and im not sure about fig, but i thought they dropped leaves by now as well ??
i know my POM did last year in december...


Baobob, just loosing leaves this week.
another i have still has leaves... - - FIG (2nd pic)


Fig... fig...


guava with new fruit.... Ice cream banana


mango


Florigon Mango...
are these flowers ? are the damaged ?
first year flowering (if so)




mulberry


Pomegranate

Does anyone know where i can get this stuff ? - Atonik

i found a few places, but all are in China, and either say "inquire now"
(no price or amount)
Or, they want to sell 100's of pounds (wholesale) -expensive too

i had some but ran out and really liked it.
a couple of sickly plants had huge flushes. a citrus grew a ton of huge leaves.
made another plant branch out etc...

its not a single chemical, so, harder to source.


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Atonik
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Melting Point: 105-106oC

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Uses:
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It can be used in seed dipper, irrigation, Bud sprinkler and leaf spraying with 1.2- 1.5gm per acre (Foliar spray concentration 6-10ppm) It is one of the highly efficient PGR as far as nutrition and diseases prevention is concern. It can be made in form of water and powder (1.8% Sodium Nitrophenolate - Water 1.4 % Sodium Nitrophenolate SP)

Compounded use

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http://www.aquaticchemicals.com/atonik-2081435.html
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I had gotten a Jaboticabab from Pine Island last Spring (2014)
I really didnt know much about them then (or now LOL)
I do remember reading about confusion between J Cauliflora and Sabra
and , also, that "RED" was a hybrid...

So, i just looked at the plastic label which is strapped on to the plant
and it says ... Jaboticaba Red
and underneath it says "cauliflora"

Whatever it is, it tastes pretty damn good
ive had a dozen or so fruit from it already.
it looks like it will flower again
this will be the 4th time this year (one time, the flowers all died from water stress)

i planted the first 3 seeds, and, IF these are what i think they are...
i have seedlings... my babies










Are these Jabo seedlings ?
the lighter colored "pinkish" leaves ?

Freeze damage to tropical fruits in Southern Florida in 1977
http://fshs.org/proceedings-o/1977-vol-90/254-257%20(CAMPBELL).pdf


FLORIDA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY, 1963
COLD TOLERANCE OBSERVATIONS DURING THE
1962 FREEZE
http://fshs.org/proceedings-o/1963-vol-76/374-377%20(SNOW).pdf


cold damage to fruit trees at the sub-tropical experimental station Homestead .
http://fshs.org/proceedings-o/1958-vol-71/341-344%20(LEDIN).pdf

I have a soft guava type. mexican cream i think.

i bought a Mexican White from Home Despot several months ago
and it just dropped its first fruit.
actually, i was pulling on it to look at it.
the fruit is soft, but there is no aroma,
and it is still pretty green looking.

will it ripen more off the tree ?
is it ready now, since it gives with my thumb pressure ?

FOR TRADE
loquat, lychee, babob, dragonfruit, cacao, POM , mango seedlings, papaya
also have Rootbeer /Piper auritum

looking for Jujube or Indian jujube (preferably rooted)
especially looking for
Curculigo Latifolia
 So-Shang / Elaeagnus latifolia

other... zone 9 (or maybe 10) subtropical fruit
surprise me / has to be something i dont already have.

i can make it worth your while
can throw in dragonfruit (rooted), or
will trade straight up even if your plant is much smaller

also looking for
Any Jaboticaba except Sabra and the red-hybrid
Eugenia reinwardtiana /a.k.a. Beach Cherry
Cherry of the Rio Grande
governors plum
Lychee (grafted named)
Pakistan Mulberry (will consider cuttings)

and
Rubus glaucus
Syzygium polyanthum
Maclura cochinchinensis
Berchemia zeyheri
Berchemia scandens /Alabama supplejack

My Mutingia has decided to break speed records
i planted it in the spring, and its several feet over my head now.
I am in New Orleans (zone 9b) and a bit worried about freezes/frost

secondary reason for pruning...
its in a raised bed (only about 4 to 5 inches)
and its already shading out an autumn olive and a goji.
and its next to a guava it shades a bit as well.

i want to create a box around it with 1x2 in wood stakes
and staple clear plastic to encase it.

one problem being i dont know if now is a good time to cut it back ?
i am thinking it is.
it may grow just a bit before winter
giving it some strength in its new form
an produce new leaves close to the trunk.

i would have to cut all the branches close to the trunk as well
leaving them about 2 to 3ft long.

the other problem is it is very close to a 8ft guava
some branches intermingling.
i am thinking to just cut them both in the middle
so the plastic can keep the heat in ??

ideas ? comments ?

it has actuially grown a foot or 2 since the pic.







here you can see the guava behind it
though, this pic is several months old
its much larger now.

never heard of this one before
just ran across it.
it appears to be at least somewhat cold hardy from another site.
(im in zone 9)
the PDF below is in Spanish which i cant read.

Acanthosyris spinescens
Sombra De Touro

Southern S. America - Argentina, Uruguay, southern and eastern Brazil.
A tree of the subtropics to the tropics.

Fruit - raw. The thin-skinned fruit has a very succulent pulp with a sweet, pleasant flavour
 The fruits are about 3cm in diameter
http://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Acanthosyris+spinescens

Region: Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay - PDF (Spanish)
http://www.guayubira.org.uy/monte/Quebracho_flojo.pdf

got these from Ebay

Guabiju Myrcianthes pungens
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Guabiju-Myrcianthes-pungens-Tropical-Fruit-Tree-Seedling-/121755178013?nma=true

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Purple Dwarf Guava "Araza" Psidium myrtoides
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121749950369?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

i think the one on the left is Guabiju, and right is guava ?


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Below, the small one is IMBE
and the other, i "think" is grumichama



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These 2 are grown from seed
but, im not sure what this is. May be Myrica Rubra i planted 8 months ago ?


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i "think" this one is Psidium guineense ?



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another i can not ID from seed
but, i think is Eugenia florida

i have several guava, most are still small
2 fruiting trees
tste is good, but, im not experienced enough to know what is really good for a guava.
i got 2 plants from Home Despot. $3 each (couldnt pass it up)
on was called Mexican White, the other was Asian red (or, Hong Kong red , or Mayla red - i forget)
they are almost 4ft tall now.

I am looking for a sweet guava
although i am fairly happy with mine, "sweet" is not an adjective i would use to describe it.
i also love the aroma.

i hear Jalisco Rojo and Allahabad Safeda are very good
but, after searching an hour, i cant find one for sale

any ideas where to get a very good tasting guava ?
Will it likely be better than my Home Despot ones ?