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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: Nyuu on June 13, 2020, 09:13:15 AM
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Biggest thing is I'm wondering is flower type on it because I have a customer would like to pair it with another avocado tree
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Call Fruitscapes in Bokeelia, FL. They sell it. They should know.
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It is an A flower it is from a seedling of Hass. It was developed in Louisiana and was called an Ooh la la before a name change. I have one and it is an excellent producer. I have found it does not do well with heavy pruning. So prune with care. Mine has done well here in the Tampa area.
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Ty for you're helpful information
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It is an A flower it is from a seedling of Hass. It was developed in Louisiana and was called an Ooh la la before a name change. I have one and it is an excellent producer. I have found it does not do well with heavy pruning. So prune with care. Mine has done well here in the Tampa area.
So it's a large tree? How is the flavor?
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They can get big and the fruits can get up to about a pound very creamy just like a hass and still very cold hardy about 24-25 Fahrenheit
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Does anyone have photos of fruit cut up of this one?
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I could take a picture of one on the tree right now but they are quite immature. They are creamy with a deep rich flavor. I like them better than a regular haas as the taste is a bit richer. Mine are a bit larger than a regular hass maybe 20 to 30%. Right now they look just like an immature Hass and when ripe look just like a hass only a little larger. They seem to grow at a good pace and are very good producers. I would not be surprised if they become a commercial product. One issue is they do take a long time to ripen.
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I could take a picture of one on the tree right now but they are quite immature. They are creamy with a deep rich flavor. I like them better than a regular haas as the taste is a bit richer. Mine are a bit larger than a regular hass maybe 20 to 30%. Right now they look just like an immature Hass and when ripe look just like a hass only a little larger. They seem to grow at a good pace and are very good producers. I would not be surprised if they become a commercial product. One issue is they do take a long time to ripen.
Thanks for your input on the super hass, I recently planted one and appreciate the information.
Could you please add how long your tree has been planted, and how long it took to fruit? Do you have any other avocados planted for cross pollination? Can you share anything on its growth habit? Any details welcome!
If you’d care to add a picture of your tree, that would be great! :)
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I could take a picture of one on the tree right now but they are quite immature. They are creamy with a deep rich flavor. I like them better than a regular haas as the taste is a bit richer. Mine are a bit larger than a regular hass maybe 20 to 30%. Right now they look just like an immature Hass and when ripe look just like a hass only a little larger. They seem to grow at a good pace and are very good producers. I would not be surprised if they become a commercial product. One issue is they do take a long time to ripen.
Yes, please send pictures, and when they are ripe update us with more pictures. When do they ripen?
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September to October supposed to be the ripening season all my tree to small to maintain fruit so I can't really confirm it
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September to October supposed to be the ripening season all my tree to small to maintain fruit so I can't really confirm it
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This is my Super Hass in a 3 gallon pot on March 25, 2019 which I purchased from Excalibur. The next picture is of the same tree which I planted in the ground last weekend.
(https://i.postimg.cc/JDbwjvRs/6-E8690-A7-CA18-4-CF5-BC43-C56966-E5-C0-EA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JDbwjvRs)
(https://i.postimg.cc/bSTKBnD8/E460-F4-E7-BF9-E-4945-825-D-FF4798-BF375-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSTKBnD8)
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This is my Super Hass in a 3 gallon pot on March 25, 2019 which I purchased from Excalibur. The next picture is of the same tree which I planted in the ground last weekend.
(https://i.postimg.cc/JDbwjvRs/6-E8690-A7-CA18-4-CF5-BC43-C56966-E5-C0-EA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JDbwjvRs)
(https://i.postimg.cc/bSTKBnD8/E460-F4-E7-BF9-E-4945-825-D-FF4798-BF375-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSTKBnD8)
Thanks for posting, your tree looks great! My Super Hass is a bit bigger then where you started with yours, it’s nice to have an idea of what to expect. :)
Still interested to hear more from BPDUKE about their fruiting tree.
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I would be nice know more about super Hass and if BPDUKE try Duke 7 avocado how to say compared to it flavor-wise
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I wish to inform everyone who has an interest in all the substitutes for the real Haas because you are under the impression that one cannot grow a “real Haas” in Florida that you now can grow the real Haas even in Miami as my 4 Haas trees have proven. This is a previously patented variety called Haas Carmen. I bought mine in California 6 years ago and they are exactly the same variety you buy in Publix. The name is still under copyright so one can reproduce this tree but cannot sell it using the name Haas Carmen. There is only 1 nursery at this time in Homestead that is reproducing these trees but it’s being called a Mexican Haas. I gave Zill scions so that they can start reproducing this variety themselves.
Hard to believe I’ve got 4 beautiful big healthy Haas trees growing in Kendall with lots and lots of perfect Haas youngins growing and staying clean on the trees right through maturity. I have zero financial interest in this.
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I wish to inform everyone who has an interest in all the substitutes for the real Haas because you are under the impression that one cannot grow a “real Haas” in Florida that you now can grow the real Haas even in Miami as my 4 Haas trees have proven. This is a previously patented variety called Haas Carmen. I bought mine in California 6 years ago and they are exactly the same variety you buy in Publix. The name is still under copyright so one can reproduce this tree but cannot sell it using the name Haas Carmen. There is only 1 nursery at this time in Homestead that is reproducing these trees but it’s being called a Mexican Haas. I gave Zill scions so that they can start reproducing this variety themselves.
Hard to believe I’ve got 4 beautiful big healthy Haas trees growing in Kendall with lots and lots of perfect Haas youngins growing and staying clean on the trees right through maturity. I have zero financial interest in this.
Why the fuck are you polluting another thread??
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Thanks for this, it made me LOL. ;D
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Thanks for this, it made me LOL. ;D
I deleted my original comment cuz I thought it sounded unkind.
And Rob, come on. He was offering useful information this time.
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Thanks for this, it made me LOL. ;D
I deleted my original comment cuz I thought it sounded unkind.
And Rob, come on. He was offering useful information this time.
The title of this thread is SUPER HASS and his post also has accuracy issues. I will say no more.
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I wish to inform everyone who has an interest in all the substitutes for the real Haas because you are under the impression that one cannot grow a “real Haas” in Florida that you now can grow the real Haas even in Miami as my 4 Haas trees have proven. This is a previously patented variety called Haas Carmen. I bought mine in California 6 years ago and they are exactly the same variety you buy in Publix. The name is still under copyright so one can reproduce this tree but cannot sell it using the name Haas Carmen. There is only 1 nursery at this time in Homestead that is reproducing these trees but it’s being called a Mexican Haas. I gave Zill scions so that they can start reproducing this variety themselves.
Hard to believe I’ve got 4 beautiful big healthy Haas trees growing in Kendall with lots and lots of perfect Haas youngins growing and staying clean on the trees right through maturity. I have zero financial interest in this.
I think you meant the name is trademarked and not copyrighted.
Here is a link to what I think may be the expired patent information for this variety: https://patents.google.com/patent/USPP11173P/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/USPP11173P/en)
Here is a link to the trademark information: http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4809:l9hixe.2.1 (http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4809:l9hixe.2.1)
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Yes, patent has expired on Carmen Hass as they call it in California and other places around world. Supposed to be multi-cropper in Mexico anyway ;) Brokaw Nursery had patent or trademark or awhile here in Ca.
Thanks for link Murahilian
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I think it's very useful to know that there is an alternative to Super Hass that also produces well in South Florida. It's the Carmen Hass, which is being offered by a nursery in Homestead under the name "Mexican Hass." Also, ZHPP was given the scions so it's possible that they may start producing this tree. So thanks, Weiss, for letting us know.
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Agree, thanks for the info Weiss. If you get a chance, can you post some pix? I have a strong aversion to the west indian avocadoes and am always on the lookout for new hass cultivars that do well here.
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I will make a video of each of my Hass Carmen’s and put it on YouTube then give you guys the link and if you want you can send me an email or text and I can tell you the name of the nursery in Homestead. I don’t want to make it look like I have a financial interest in this at all because I don’t.
As far as bsbully and I spelled that correctly, I owe him a lot for his phenomenal contributions here on mangoes over the years and it’s mainly because of him that my mango collection is so delicious.
When I was starting my hobby I bought my trees without ever having even tasted most of those varieties and it was 90% because of bsbullie and all his descriptions and tastes and judgements etc that I listened to.
I really owe him a lot and respect him and I’m sorry if I upset him.
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I also have a hass avocado tree. It’s loaded with fruit this year.
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Carmen Hass is not a multi crop avocado at least not in SoCal. We have a large specimen in The Great Park in EL Torro that my friend Jon, master gardener, planted some years ago and it has not produce multi crops consistently
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Here is the video of 3 of my Haas Carmen’s. Don’t waste your time watching the 3rd tree as it got cloudy and the video got too dark.
https://youtu.be/H0D8FTr_I_k
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Wow weiss, you got a very beautiful yard with mucho trees concrat's on keeping your place so--------clean a well kept!! ;)
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I also have a hass avocado tree. It’s loaded with fruit this year.
I seem to recall that yours is a seedling. Didn't I call it the Tommy Hass?
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I also have a hass avocado tree. It’s loaded with fruit this year.
I seem to recall that yours is a seedling. Didn't I call it the Tommy Hass?
Yes, John, Tommy hass, it’s a seedling. I’ll do an update photo on it soon.
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I also have a hass avocado tree. It’s loaded with fruit this year.
I seem to recall that yours is a seedling. Didn't I call it the Tommy Hass?
Yes, John, Tommy hass, it’s a seedling. I’ll do an update photo on it soon.
Oh yes, please do! ;D
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My super haas has been in the ground 3 years it started producing the first year I planted it. It was a 6 ft tall plant when I planted it. I also have a regular Hass that is growing well but does not produce as well. And I have an Oro Negro that has really not done well at all. Again I am in Apollo beach near Tampa. I am right on the border or 10A 10B. All are flowering. So the Oro Negro may be contributing as it is a type B flower.
Last year I took quite a bit off the top of the Super Haas as it was growing so fast. It was not a wise decision. So prune carefully.
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Who did the curbs around the trees?
What is the quality of the ripened carmen hass? One of the issues with mexican / guatemalan avocadoes in FL has been uneven ripening.
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Who did the curbs around the trees?
What is the quality of the ripened carmen hass? One of the issues with mexican / guatemalan avocadoes in FL has been uneven ripening.
Good point, Jeff. The quality of the ripened Super Hass, Carmen Hass, Tommy Hass, and any other Hass in Florida.
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The Haas Carmen’s are exactly like the Haas in Publix.
The concrete is From Master Borders. Guy’s name is Jaime.
(786) 278-8550
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Here is the video of 3 of my Haas Carmen’s. Don’t waste your time watching the 3rd tree as it got cloudy and the video got too dark.
https://youtu.be/H0D8FTr_I_k
My goodness you have enough to feed a Army :)