Wanted Himalayan Mangosteen, and Mexican Mangosteen (Luc's) seeds or plants

[marklee]

Hi looking for tasty Garcinias that will fruit here in San Diego, I would like larger seedlings, or even seeds.

Thanks,

Mark

[Roy-Ind]

What is Himalayan mangosteen ? What is Mexican mangosteen ?
http://www.homolaicus.com/scienza/erbario/utility/botanica_sistematica/hypertext/0718.htm

[luc]

Mark , the Mexican Garcinia fruits in May - June , seeds will be 1 dollar each plus shipping .

[Roy-Ind]

I searched in http://www.ars-grin.gov/
There is no such Himalayan mangosteen.
Please mention scientific name .There are some Garcinia species in and around Himalayas.
Mexican mangosteen is Garcinia intermedia ?

[marklee]

Mark , the Mexican Garcinia fruits in May - June , seeds will be 1 dollar each plus shipping .

Great Luc,
I will for sure like to buy a bunch if you can save me on your list.

Thanks Mark

[marklee]

I searched in http://www.ars-grin.gov/
There is no such Himalayan mangosteen.
Please mention scientific name .There are some Garcinia species in and around Himalayas.
Mexican mangosteen is Garcinia intermedia ?

Roy here is the scientific name Garcinia xanthochymus. it is also called the false mangosteen.

[Roy-Ind]

Mark
Garcinia xanthochymus is Mysore gamboge in www.ars-grin.gov.It is also called Sour mangosteen. It can not be tasty.
Your mexican mangosteen probably be Garcinia intermedia(Lemon drop or cherry mangosteen).The fruits have sweet sour taste.
You can grow real Mangosteen(Garcinia mangostana) which has real tasty sweet fruits.For Garcinia,you may contact Sadhu.We have many Garcinia species in India.
Happy new year.

[Jackfruitwhisperer69]

I searched in http://www.ars-grin.gov/
There is no such Himalayan mangosteen.
Please mention scientific name .There are some Garcinia species in and around Himalayas.
Mexican mangosteen is Garcinia intermedia ?

Roy here is the scientific name Garcinia xanthochymus. it is also called the false mangosteen.

Hi Mark,
I can get you some xanthochymus seeds...in Summer

There's a large tree in Funchal that is very productive...been there about two weeeks, the tree was full of small fruit

Here's some old pics I uploaded here on the forum.

[Jackfruitwhisperer69]

What is Himalayan mangosteen ? What is Mexican mangosteen ?
http://www.homolaicus.com/scienza/erbario/utility/botanica_sistematica/hypertext/0718.htm

Hi Roy,
Here's more info on the Mexican Mangosteen.
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=1956.msg26869;topicseen#msg26869

[BMc]

Try to get mundu G. dulcis over the other one as its same but better. Slower growing but still quite tough. I can procure seed now if required.

[luc]

I searched in http://www.ars-grin.gov/
There is no such Himalayan mangosteen.
Please mention scientific name .There are some Garcinia species in and around Himalayas.
Mexican mangosteen is Garcinia intermedia ?

Not Garcinia intermedia !!
For your info 350 seeds were planted in India in 2010 , all sprouted and are doing well .

[Roy-Ind]

Nurseries in Kerala are selling a plant'Baraba'.When I asked about its english name,one told 'Cherry mangosteen'. Cherry mangosteen is found in Mexico. Is it Rheedia edulis? Please tell scientific name of Mexican mangosteen according to you. Is the fruit sweet in taste?

[luc]

So far nobody came up with a name for this Mexican Rheedia/Garcinia . It is not the R. edulis ( I have this one growing also ) it could be that R. edulis and G. intermedia are the same .

This 'Limoncillo' as the locals call it turns sweet when 100 % ripe , peel is also edible at that stage .

[marklee]

Try to get mundu G. dulcis over the other one as its same but better. Slower growing but still quite tough. I can procure seed now if required.

Hi,

I would be interested in the G. Dulcis  from BMc and xanthochymus seeds from Steve. You can pm me or send a message. Thanks,

Mark in California

[Roy-Ind]

Dear Luc
As you said,mexican garcinia is limoncillo.It is not Garcinia intermedia nor Rheedia edulis(Some people say both are same and same say they are different).One article(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040103/) says that Rheedia edulis  (synonym: Garcinia intermedia) is known as  “waiki-plum” in Belize, “arrayán” or “palo de frutilla” in Guatemala, “chaparrón” in El Salvador, “Caimito” in Honduras, “jorco” in Costa Rica, “sastra” in Panama, and “limoncillo” in Mexico. This species is also cultivated in Brazil and The Philippines where it is known as “limăo do matto” or “berba”, respectively.
There are other two limoncillo's-Cassipourea guianensis and Melicoccus bijugatus.
I request the forum to find out a proper scientific name for Mexican Garcinia (or Rheedia,if it belongs to this)
I wish to grow this.I will give you some seeds from India.

[BMc]

I request the forum to find out a proper scientific name for Mexican Garcinia (or Rheedia,if it belongs to this)

I think thats the point - there is no scientific name for this species. its a large garcinia (South American, so Rheedia family), which grows in the area around Luc.
Here is a link to the ejardim page for a bit of info that you can run through google translate. http://www.e-jardim.com/produto_completo.asp?IDProduto=361

[FlyingFoxFruits]

Aw, man! 

I liked the scientific name I came up with....

I guess it never caught on with the taxonomists who name this stuff...how do we convince them?

Its Garcinia vleerackerii

So far nobody came up with a name for this Mexican Rheedia/Garcinia . It is not the R. edulis ( I have this one growing also ) it could be that R. edulis and G. intermedia are the same .

This 'Limoncillo' as the locals call it turns sweet when 100 % ripe , peel is also edible at that stage .