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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Right Choice? Cogshall
« on: January 01, 2019, 05:54:49 AM »
My children (the freaks that they are) don't like our lemon zest (too sweet) but they go nuts over our Glenn mango. Point being that everyone has their own personal opinions and tastes, so you might feel Cogshall is the greatest mango in the world and absolutely hate Pina Colada, or vice versa. Your best bet would be to wait until summer, try a ton of different varieties, and make up your mind at that point. Many of us went the route of Fairchild or Pine Island Nursery recommendations sight unseen (myself included) and ended up removing trees later upon the realization that we didn't like what was planted (I'm looking at you, Carrie mango). My yard would have a somewhat different selection today if I had the benefit of this forum before planting out 50 trees.

As to front yard, I agree with skhan as to the locals. If you're on a quiet street with good neighbors, you're probably good with anything. If not, anything that remotely looks like a fruit is going to be looted. Doesn't really matter if it's a green mango or other odd fruit - they'll pick it in the middle of the night or weeks before it ripens. That said, I have both a sapodilla and a Cogshall mango in my front yard, but also have security cameras, two hungry great danes, and an arsenal sufficient to overthrow a Central American nation, so there's that.

Finally, if you're in West Pines, Bender's Grove is right around the corner from you (Weston/Davie border). Mike is a member here and sells both fruit and trees.

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I disagree.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / You can all thank me for today's rain.
« on: December 15, 2018, 03:33:14 PM »
Woke up to a non-windy, beautiful day, so I decided to be proactive and spray some of the mango trees with copper. Mixed up some spray, donned some protective gear, and felt tremendously accomplished by 7:30 a.m. when I was done.

Of course, fast forward to 10am, and it's pouring.

This happens every time, so if anyone wants rain in the future, just let me know and I'll go out to spray the yard.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruit fly control in South Florida
« on: December 11, 2018, 05:36:37 PM »
For those of us that live in South Florida where we're primarily dealing with the Caribbean fruit fly, what methods are you using to control, stop, and/or viciously murder them?

I've watched a lot of videos on Youtube from Hawaii, Ghana, etc., but I'm more confused now given that different fly species seem to have different means of control.

Not sure if protein baits, apple cider vinegar, etc. work to control our local fly population, but I need to start being proactive with loquat season approaching and the flies fattening up on carambola now.

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Came across these on Youtube and thought they'd be useful to people here. These are more useful than most of the videos I've seen from the USA. This is obviously more tilted toward commercial growing, but I found each of the videos very educational (I subscribed to the channel so I could come back and watch these when needed).

Selective Harvest - How to raise your mango yield

Anthracnose Control for Mango Farmers

From Farmer to Farmer: Fruit Fly Control

How to prune a mango tree (engl)

How to prune - Canopy management for mango

BBS Control for Mango Farmers

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Reviving an old thread - where does one buy these 'stronger/better' fungicides like MasterCop, Magna-Bon, etc.? I can't find any online source for them. I can find places to buy Nordox, but that's about it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Your Favorite Telescoping Pole Pruner?
« on: November 03, 2018, 07:01:51 AM »
Battery powered pole saw all the way. It's an investment, but I use the blower, hedge trimmer, and chainsaw already. The pole saw worked extremely well in pruning ever-growing mangoes this year.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/EGO-10-in-Pole-Saw-Attachment-for-EGO-Power-Head-System-PSA1000/301276692

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Anyone knows how to get a Sugar Dragon plant in South Florida?

I think I have one growing in my yard here in Springs... though which one it is I'm not sure about. Everything was labeled at one point. It  hasn't fruited yet as it was planted last year. One of our plants is making a lot of fruit (red/purple variety) and they're pretty good for dragon fruit. Again, no clue on the variety.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / When are Monroe avocados ready to be picked?
« on: October 08, 2018, 10:19:46 AM »
First year with fruit on our Monroe tree. I have no idea when it's time or how to tell when it's time to pick Florida avocados. Any insight?

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"lemon zest"

pronounced: "nom nom nom"

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No words will ever adequately describe sex to a virgin.

sure there is. sex is like a properly ripened lemon zest

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sickly Edgar mango tree... diagnose its problem
« on: September 08, 2018, 12:03:23 PM »
This was originally planted over a year ago as a tall scraggly 3 gallon. I 'pugged' it to a few feet tall in hopes that I could better control the tree shape, but in the last year it has not really done any growing and just appears very sickly. It shot out a decent amount of branches but, as you can see, many of them are not developing leaves or what is developed never really goes anywhere. Do I need to yank it out/give up or is this something that an aggressive copper/plant doctor/x-ray radiation is going to fix?








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Humans are members of the animal kingdom. Like other animals it is our nature to kill for various reasons. What should separate humans from other species is our ability to be humane to others since we have the ability to empathize and understand suffering. Burning an animal alive is a form of torture. Not a laughing matter imo. I worked in animal shelters for years you see some bad stuff and these are supposed to be peopleís pets. Including dogs and cats intentionally set on fire.

I disagree. What separates us from other species is our ability to be inhumane. There are very few other species that kill/torture for sport/boredom. Only dolphins and apes come to mind. Just about everything else kills as quickly/efficiently as possible.
Devils Advocate:::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ZH3VzjZGU
https://vimeo.com/47167442

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Z1guM8c3g

https://www.toptenz.net/top-10-animals-that-can-eat-living-things-in-one-bite.php

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPs27xGxshc

I forgot about cats which everyone knows/accepts are evil incarnate.

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Humans are members of the animal kingdom. Like other animals it is our nature to kill for various reasons. What should separate humans from other species is our ability to be humane to others since we have the ability to empathize and understand suffering. Burning an animal alive is a form of torture. Not a laughing matter imo. I worked in animal shelters for years you see some bad stuff and these are supposed to be peopleís pets. Including dogs and cats intentionally set on fire.

I disagree. What separates us from other species is our ability to be inhumane. There are very few other species that kill/torture for sport/boredom. Only dolphins and apes come to mind. Just about everything else kills as quickly/efficiently as possible.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My fruit tree list to date...
« on: August 12, 2018, 02:38:42 PM »
How do you keep the fruit flies from ruining the peaches?

generally, you don't. we cover a lot with organza bags when still small and the fruit flies still get 25 - 50% of the peaches. I suppose I could add fruit fly traps and other measures, though nothing is going to be super effective.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My fruit tree list to date...
« on: August 10, 2018, 10:48:31 AM »
You're in zone 10b so the UF Best peach doesn't really require any winter chill?  The "100 chill units" isn't necessary?
Good catch. Thatís a typo, Iím 10a
Okay.  But what do you think about the 100 chill units?  How necessary are they?  Not advisable for 10b?  Also, this peach is classified as non-melting.  Would that translate as not juicy?

Both UF Sun and Tropic Beauty grow like crazy and fruit prolifically in my yard in Coral Springs.

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from mango to soursop...




Does not seem like a good swap to me...

13 or 14 other mango trees. We're swimming in them.

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yes - popnull dug it out and planted it at his place.

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from mango to soursop...




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When it comes to mango tree removal... trust the professionals. Sometimes it takes a lawyer (me) and a doctor (popnull) to surgically remove a Mallika from its in-ground spot. Hopefully it survives the transplant. Now I just need to figure out who to send my hourly invoice to.





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I need to make some room in the yard and that means the Mallika is on the chopping block. Very healthy tree, fruits well enough, but I need the room. Tree is about 8 - 9 feet tall, a few years old. Not sure if it's feasible to transplant it, but figured I'd see if anyone wants to try. It's getting the chainsaw tomorrow morning if I don't hear from anyone before then.

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I have always counted myself as a papaya hater unable to get over the vomit smell... until we went to Hawaii last year and had the local papayas there which were excellent (sunrise, rainbow, etc.).

We've been trying to grow the Hawaiian papayas here but I'm losing the battle to a group of iguanas that are climbing and eating the leaves/branches. Looks like I need to buy an air rifle to thin the herd because I can't get anything to grow more than 3 feet before it gets wiped out by the iguanas.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: July 14, 2018, 08:25:59 AM »
Surprised to see Carrie in your top 5 but not Angie. They are similar in terms of flavor profile, with Angie being more firm.

Angie is a good mango as a dwarf tree but in my garden I donít put it my Top 5 . Dot, Lemon zest, Coco cream, Carrie, Sweet tart. All of them have very strong sweetness and complex flavor.

What's crazy is that I like Angie (though I wouldn't say top 5) but absolutely despise Carrie. The qualifier I'll put on that is I only enjoy Angie when it's firm/tart. Once it gets softer and develops the Carrie 'odor,' I can't stand it.

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Carrie and Angie are in my bottom 5, and you can add Ugly Betty to that pile.

Love the Ugly Betty, Angie and Carrie. I will take them any day compared to some other varieties such as Glenn, Rosigold, Cogshall and NDM #4. Better than Mahachanok as well, at least for my taste buds.

I agree, the others you mentioned are in the bottom pile.  Lol

My how tastes vary from person to person...

Truly Tropical grows and sells over 80 varieties of mangoes.  Carrie is their absolute #1 FAVORITE BEST SELLER!!  Most hard core mango lovers think Carrie is a superb mango - the facts speak for themselves.

I am very familiar with Truly Tropical and know Chris very well.  I dont choose mangoes based on sales.  I go by taste.  I am alsi very familiar with the Carrie and you will never see me eating one.  To me, they are horrible.  Please don't try to preach to me about how good it is and any mango lover would make it their favorite.  You will not even make me think of eating one or changing my mind.

Not trying to change your mind, trying to make you realize that the vast majority of people 90%?? think Carrie is an excellent mango. Telling people that Carrie is a bad tasting mango isn't accurate.  It's especially bad because your opinion and knowledge on most other things is spot on and well respected.  People are entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

Wait... in the same post you're telling him he's entitled to his own opinion but then telling him his opinion is wrong? The 'fact' that "90%" of people think Carrie is excellent (which I'll assume is a statistic you pulled out of your ass unless you have some poll to direct me to) does not mean that many people, myself included, would rather eat 3-day old cat barf than a Carrie mango. Individual tastes vary - that is an actual fact. You acting like a cheerleader does not make Carrie an excellent mango to those that disagree with its flavor/smell. Normally I wouldn't even post, but the arrogance of you trying to impose your will on others coupled with your 'you're entitled to your opinion even though it's wrong" attitude made me take the bait.

Here's a lesson for everyone out there:

1. Carrie is a mango. That is a FACT.

2. Carrie tastes like sweaty grandma socks. That is also a FACT. BECAUSE I SAID SO.

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