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All araticum seeds were sold, I hope to have more seeds the next year, but I could get some more rare Annona seeds from Misiones in a few weeks

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I harvested one more Araticum da restinga, 10 seeds

Araticum da restinga (annona parviflora) , frost hardy to -5º C or so, sweet lemony taste similar to chirimoya mixed with coconut. VERY rare species! Climate: tropical and subtropical http://www.colecionandofrutas.cc/annonaparviflora.htm

10 seeds USD 25









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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia rivularis, 50 years old
« on: August 08, 2018, 11:07:10 PM »
http://frontera.nearural.com/index.php?id=38813


Yes, there you can read and listen to José Radins, he wrote that the fruit is very good:

" Los frutos son globosos, de 1,5-2 cm. de diámetro, lisos, rojos, morados a casi negras cuando maduran, de pulpa clara, dulce y muy sabrosos."

"The fruits are globose, 1.5-2 cm. of diameter, smooth, red, purple to almost black when ripe, of clear, sweet and very tasty pulp."

It seems that I will taste some fruits by october, I hope so!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Plinia rivularis, 50 years old
« on: August 08, 2018, 01:04:02 PM »
This amazing tree is at Misiones, I didnt took the photos but maybe I will get some of the black (not red) fruit it produces and taste them in 1 or 2 months.
















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Updated august 5 2018, special offer for the Psidium pack: more seeds, 20% discount





* NEW Arazá johvy (Psidium aff . australe (Helton) or aff. guineense (Landrum)). Fruits ripe in yellowish green, 4cm long, 3.5cm diameter, taste like pear mixed with raspberry.
20 seeds:  USD 15
* Hybrid Araçá  (maybe P. guineense x P. grandifolium ), very rare, tastes and smells like pineapple/caramel/strawberries. Hardy to -6º C, it likes irrigation very much but does not tolerate flooding. It bears fruit in 2 to 3 years in pots. Climate: tropical and subtropical. Native of grassland regions, Argentina (Corrientes, Misiones, Salta)
5 seeds:  USD 10
* Psidium ROBUSTUM, Very rare psidium, it tastes very good, acid and sweet, similar to a mix of pineapple/apple/strawberry guava. Hardy to -3 or -4º C and to 6 months of drought.
6 seeds, 10 USD
* Araçá morango (psidium guineense), harvest April 2018. Acid and sweet like strawberries, hardy to -5º C, it start producing at 1 year and 6 months after sowing.
7 seeds: 6 USD
* Araçá-una / black arazá or purple forest guava (psidium myrtoides), harvest feb/march 2018.
10 seeds: 11 USD
* Lemon guava (psidium cattleianum var lucidum), very nice lemon flavour, not acid, sweet.
30 seeds (USD 6)
* Red Strawberry guava (psidium cattleianum var sabine)
20 seeds (USD 4)
* Tropical guava (psidium guajava) frost hardy to -4.4º C, sweet.
20 seeds (USD 8  ): varieties to choose: paraguayan, mexican cream, cuban green/pink , brazilian yellow/yellow, cuban yellow/cream


Total in seeds: USD 70
Shipping cost: USD 17

Total USD 87

Special Offer: USD 70

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabo Potting Soil Mixture
« on: August 05, 2018, 09:52:27 AM »
What would be an ideal potting soil mixture/buy for transplanting my red jaboticaba?

Thanks

The ideal substrate is a soil that at the same time has good drainage and retains moisture and that is something acidic, that is to say it has peat, jungle soil (vegetable soil with leaves and decomposed branches), manure, compost, garden soil, perlite or vermiculite.

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shit!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia ID Help Please
« on: August 01, 2018, 05:16:43 PM »
very nice plant... all I can say is that the leaves are similar to E. uniflora and to Psidium myrtoides

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID please...
« on: July 31, 2018, 08:28:25 AM »
Looks like Guabiju, Myrcianthes Pungens.
Congratulations on the first fruits!


100% :-)

Wait till they are REALLY ripe, when the fruit is soft. I even like them overripe and cold from the fridge.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Firtst Pitangutuba
« on: July 29, 2018, 12:05:32 AM »
I didnt tasted pitangatuba yet, but your descriptions make me think of acid ubajay: I will never eat it our of hand, but it makes one of the best mermelades I ever tasted, and will be very good in many dishes

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I would love seeds when you are successful fruiting. It reminds me
most of my Eugenia Florida trees?

I will love to see it fruiting! maybe I will get some fruits from the mother tree this year, keep in touch, I will post.

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I have a few sete capotes (C. guazomifolia) now!

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Just potted all my Psidium's up. Have had amazing germination. A lot of things germinated within a month and within the next month, most of the seeds that hadn't germinated began germinating. I'd say I had 75-100% germination on the seeds. Thank you Marcos!




Wow, thanks for sharing it! I have many sprouted seeds too :-)

These are just a few of them:

Psidium robustum:






Psidium guajava mexican cream:



Eugenia repanda:



Psidium myrtoides: black arazá




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia Article/Presentation
« on: July 24, 2018, 10:45:34 PM »
Does anyone known more of Eugenia Uniflora var. dasyblasta? , I read that  Eugenia uniflora var. Dasyblasta (I'm not sure that this is the name), is a variety of native cherry in cold regions in southern Brazil, which tolerates more than -10 ° C. It produces fruit only once a year, but a larger amount of fruits. Its fruits are smaller, but much sweeter than the native variety of hot regions.

Hello Fabio and welcome to TFF

I have some confirmed Pitangas var. Dasyblasta growing and fruiting herein Portugal and I confirm small but abundant and very sweet tasty fruits.


Hi, what's the key to ID them? I mean, the Eugenia uniflora var Dasyblasta

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Did you manage to id the plant?

No... thanks for asking... so sad...

Helton wrote "Eu tenho essa espécie aqui mais não tenho certeza ainda de sua identificação. Possivelmente seja Eugenia moraviana, mais ainda não posso confirmar!", but I see it so different to E. moraviana...

Maybe I will get some fruits from the mother tree in some months!

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Mine is in a 15 gallon and flowers great, but no fruit hold. How cold has yours been able to handle? Is it in the ground?

Is it in full sun? It needs sun to hold more fruits.

Our trees are ground at my garden, -3º C with no damage at all, and -6ºC with very little damage, just some new leaves and not so much... holding fruits after -6º C

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Here an update on the seeds of C Guazumifolia.

In April I received from Marcos two seeds that were dried and eight seeds that were kept moist. Both batches were sown in a small container with normal potting soil and placed in a small germinator with bottom heat in front of a window.

They both did absolutely nothing for months, while all my other Myrtaceae seeds sprouted and grew away.

And then last week out of nothing one seedling emerged from each pot. Two or three days apart from each other.
So far 1 out of the 2 dried seeds germinated and 1 out of the 8 moist seeds. They just really seem to take their time. 3 months at least.

Very happy to have these going and as I suspected they might be pretty ok with drying out.

Very thanks for the update, Solko! my ones didnt sprouted yet and a collector from Misiones told me that they are not easy to sprout (she takes seedlings directly from the forest to sell...)

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Hi, I still have many species to sell, including araucaria araucana.

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Adding Psidium aff . australe (Helton) or aff. guineense (Landrum)

This species was discovered into the Misiones forest

* Arazá johvy (Psidium aff . australe (Helton) or aff. guineense (Landrum)). Fruits ripe in yellowish green, 4cm long, 3.5cm diameter, taste like pear mixed with strawberries, it has a lot of very small 2mm seeds (similar to Psidium cattleyanum var lucidum). Very rare psidium; the guaraníes call it "arazá johvy", what means "blue guava".























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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Wild Psidium to ID!
« on: July 13, 2018, 07:33:34 PM »
Rare psidium to ID: it tastes like pear (the main flavour)+raspberry (a bit tart)+strawberries+mulberries (but not like Psidium guineense)... fruit fly infected so they didnt ripen ok... directly from the Misiones forest; it has a lot of 2mm small seeds... maybe a form of Psidium guineense as it has between 5 to 10 lateral veins... what do you think? Fruits are 4cm long and 3.5cm diameter. I grow 10 or so psidium species and this one does not tastes like the other ones... but it is near the taste of some arazás (similar to P. cattleyanum, maybe). Not fragant as P. guajava or P. guineense.






















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The nursery owner said it bears fruits when jaboticabas are fruiting... they call it "guaviyú sin espinas" but, clearly, it is not myrcianthes pungens

would it be an Eugenia, Myrciaria?

It bears fruis in the axils of the leaves, not in the main trunk as jaboticabas.

The fruit is black and very sweet (I didnt tasted it and dont have any photos for now!)

The smell of the crushed leaves remembers me to jaboticabas or uvaias, it is not strong.

The seller told me about the fruit: "It is like the cherry, black color, the skin is hard as the jaboticaba, it is more juicy and sweet, the pulp is a light purple color."

Help!
















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21º F  Ouch!

It usually takes a week to show damage, how long ago was the cold?
How many hours was the cold? I have many of the same species I even got some seeds from you,
it's good to see they can handle these temps. Stay warm!

It was 3 weeks ago, I dont know how many ours of frosts (but there was another -1ºC frost the next day)... and yes, I am very happy indeed!

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There was a 21º F (-6º C) frost 3 weeks ago,

Today I took some fotos of the damage to some of our planted species:

http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2018/07/12/danos-por-helada-de-6oc-en-frutales-nativos-de-la-selva-paranaense-valle-y-delta-del-parana-plantacion-experimental-en-junin-noroeste-de-la-pcia-de-bs-as-ecorregion-pampa-interior-plana/

No damage: eugenia uniflora, acca sellowiana, psidium longipetiolatum, eugenia involucrata, myrcianthes pungens, myrcianthes cisplatensis, eugenia repanda, acanthosyris spinescens, chrysophyllum gonocarpum, campomanesia guazumifolia
damage just on new sprouted leaves: psidium cattleyanum, eugenia pyriformis, jaboticaba serrana, macadamia,
almost fatal damage: annona cherimola, psidium guajava













































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21º F (-6º C) frost damage to some of our planted species:

http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2018/07/12/danos-por-helada-de-6oc-en-frutales-nativos-de-la-selva-paranaense-valle-y-delta-del-parana-plantacion-experimental-en-junin-noroeste-de-la-pcia-de-bs-as-ecorregion-pampa-interior-plana/

No damage: eugenia uniflora, acca sellowiana, psidium longipetiolatum, eugenia involucrata, myrcianthes pungens, myrcianthes cisplatensis, eugenia repanda, acnathosyris spinescens, campomanesia guazumifolia
damage just on new sprouted leaves: psidium cattleyanum, eugenia pyriformis, jaboticaba serrana, macadamia,
almost fatal damage: annona cherimola, psidium guajava

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