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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit and Pine Island UPDATE
« on: July 14, 2018, 07:35:05 AM »
They still have other varieties, just not available all of the time.
Maybe, but that is not what all the employees where saying. said there stock of dragon fruit was done

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 11, 2018, 10:18:58 PM »
No it even survived Irma outside with no damage. I actually just finished making 4 more just like it and planted cuttings of new varieties. Hoping to finally start getting fruit.



So being in Florida and you growing about 3 years, the wood didn't rot?
So another question, 3 years and no fruit yet? are you growing from seed? I am getting fruit from cuttings from april 2018. what are you using?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Dragon Fruit and Pine Island UPDATE
« on: July 08, 2018, 11:07:59 PM »
Pine Island went from renaming and selling cuttings of Paul Thomson to losing all the varieties and only selling 3 different varieties of dragon fruit
Dark Star and 2 others

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Do you have more types?
Purple Haze
Physical Graffiti
El Grullo
Tricia
Yellow Columbian
Sin Espinas
Lisa
Orejona
Sugar Dragon
Voodoo Child
Frankie's Red
Red Jiana
Rixford
Natural Mystic
Delight
George
Edgar
Vietnamese White
Armando
San Ignacio
American Beauty
Cosmic Charlie
Condor
Dark Star
Valdivia Roja
Unknown Sweet White variety
Rosa

Tricia and El Grullo go for $12 each
The rest are $10 each
How is George? Any pictures of fruit?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Dragon Fruit Cuttings for Sale
« on: July 05, 2018, 09:37:55 PM »
List has been updated

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
« on: July 05, 2018, 10:54:50 AM »
I think the 26.5 degree of brix might have been a fluke. I was just looking through the previous posts from simon_grow, and he was getting brix readings of 19 from the same grower for orders received in May and July.

19 degree of brix should be more typical of this fruit. So, I wouldn't assume that there is anything magical about the Kaui Sugarloaf over a regular sugarloaf or white jade. Probably just a good year for the grower.
True but maybe this year turned into a great one, unlike the mangoes turned not soo good in florida due to rain lowered mangoes?Not sure how Hawaii was during the time i bought it if there was any influence. Since as you stated same with mangoes for florida this year with lower side of the brix compared to other years? Or it could have been a one time fluke.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When To Prune Mulberry Tree?
« on: July 05, 2018, 08:46:51 AM »
I'm planning to take a chainsaw to several bottom branches of my large mulberry tree so I can mow under it more easily. I usually prune this tree while it is dormant in winter to avoid all that milky, sticky white sap that gets all over everything if a limb is cut in summertime.
     However, I don't know if I'm patient enough to wait till winter. We've still got a long summer ahead of us here in Southwest Florida with many more lawn mowings yet to go.
     Will it hurt the tree to severely prune it now?
   
Fisherking73 and I both probably have the regular large averaging about 1.5 inches long black mulberries. These trees grow very fast like he said and can become monsters until wind blows them over if not pruned or protected from wind.

Roblack says he has the everbearing mulberry. I can only say that I had one about 7-11 years ago that was much slower growing and would get lichen on it due to growing so slow.... The berries on the species of everbearing I had was about 1/4 the size of the larger black mulberry trees so I cut it down and mowed over the remainder. Yours Roblack is much bigger than mine and probably a newer type of everbearing as a larger tree size than my former puny tree.

Fiddler, if you have a tree like mine & Fisherking73 cut it anytime you want. If it is a slow growing everbearing as I had many years ago... slight trimming if you want to keep it. As Roblack mentioned, removing a lot of limbs and/or pulling all the leaves off existing limbs will cause a flush of new growth with the setting of new fruit if a lot of water is provided (rain  etc.) The everbearing will fruit better but a lot of times the bigger black mulberry trees will also fruit to a lesser extent for a second time if enough rain (or watering).

I prunned limbs after the spring crop ending after april 15th and with the rain the shoots have regrown the 6 foot plus distance almost once again touching some cable & power lines in one location. So over 6 foot in 2 months with a lot of rain.... I just cut them again today on that one tree to keep them away from the lines... This is faster than previous years as more rain... They usually slow in Aug. with less rain and the heat and the leaves start turning yellow and appearing close to being leafless and I am happy for that slow growth and I do not water mine as I hope they almost stop growing till the following Feb. growth spurt again & fruiting.   (The small 2nd crop you can get with the summer rains or watering is not as good tasting IMO as the normal spring crop, but it's not bad either).

"Regular large ??  No such variety. As he posted, Fisherking has a Tice which is probably the most vigorous growing variety.  Way more vigorous than a Florida Everbearing.
So Again things have to be said Barney Style for BSBullie, give him at least a reference vs just acting like you know everything but help nothing

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White Jade is my favorite. Just ate one that had a measured brix of 20 -- which is sort of off the charts for a pineapple.

Kaui Sugarloaf Pineapple was the by far the best with the highest brix for pineapple



You still never responded to my post from the other pineapple thread:

Please describe the type of refractometer you have and how you did the testing.  I have had a number of the Kauai White Sugarloaf, including some in February of this year where they were not as sweet as those from summer months.  While I never tested them (I really could care less what a meter shows, its about actual taste),  that number seems a bit high.

http://www.iv.ucdavis.edu/files/24488.pdf
That is the reference i used for the Refractometer to calibrate
This came from Hawaii so might have to ask jude her secret  8) 8)


You didnt answer my question and obviously didnt read my post.  Par for the course with many comments...

So i guess i got to break it down barney style since you don't understand.
For being high you said you never tested so that really dumb question then? Just trying to down play everyone else on here?  but i guess that is who you are. As stated that this pineapple came from Jude and not you so what she did and you did. you must not know how to grow them right then maybe since you Did state you grow but not as sweet? Maybe might want to take some classes to ensure you know how to grow it good maybe? So you say you have a number of Kaui Sugarloaf but doesn't mean that you growing them right. as for the testing was done it was just get a piece and check the brix on it since it came in a package from Jude as stated before but not sure if you know how to read that? So top bottom or side to side wouldn't matter due to being shipped on sides. but again maybe you didnt know how to read that? Well since you also wanted to know about type, kinda dumb question if you ever read the article, but again i am going to be nice and break it down barney style so you can understand, this is a analog Refractometer. And also if you check the site it tells you how to ensure it is calibrated but then thats asking too much for a guy who just wants be told in barney style how things work in the real world

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When To Prune Mulberry Tree?
« on: July 05, 2018, 07:36:26 AM »
I'm planning to take a chainsaw to several bottom branches of my large mulberry tree so I can mow under it more easily. I usually prune this tree while it is dormant in winter to avoid all that milky, sticky white sap that gets all over everything if a limb is cut in summertime.
     However, I don't know if I'm patient enough to wait till winter. We've still got a long summer ahead of us here in Southwest Florida with many more lawn mowings yet to go.
     Will it hurt the tree to severely prune it now?
   
Fisherking73 and I both probably have the regular large averaging about 1.5 inches long black mulberries. These trees grow very fast like he said and can become monsters until wind blows them over if not pruned or protected from wind.

Roblack says he has the everbearing mulberry. I can only say that I had one about 7-11 years ago that was much slower growing and would get lichen on it due to growing so slow.... The berries on the species of everbearing I had was about 1/4 the size of the larger black mulberry trees so I cut it down and mowed over the remainder. Yours Roblack is much bigger than mine and probably a newer type of everbearing as a larger tree size than my former puny tree.

Fiddler, if you have a tree like mine & Fisherking73 cut it anytime you want. If it is a slow growing everbearing as I had many years ago... slight trimming if you want to keep it. As Roblack mentioned, removing a lot of limbs and/or pulling all the leaves off existing limbs will cause a flush of new growth with the setting of new fruit if a lot of water is provided (rain  etc.) The everbearing will fruit better but a lot of times the bigger black mulberry trees will also fruit to a lesser extent for a second time if enough rain (or watering).

I prunned limbs after the spring crop ending after april 15th and with the rain the shoots have regrown the 6 foot plus distance almost once again touching some cable & power lines in one location. So over 6 foot in 2 months with a lot of rain.... I just cut them again today on that one tree to keep them away from the lines... This is faster than previous years as more rain... They usually slow in Aug. with less rain and the heat and the leaves start turning yellow and appearing close to being leafless and I am happy for that slow growth and I do not water mine as I hope they almost stop growing till the following Feb. growth spurt again & fruiting.   (The small 2nd crop you can get with the summer rains or watering is not as good tasting IMO as the normal spring crop, but it's not bad either).
Here is a website you can use as a reference for now on when talking about mulberries to ensure right info even though they mismark there tree's https://toptropicals.com/cgi-bin/garden_catalog/cat.cgi?uid=Morus_hybrid its not all the Mulberries out there but it gives enough to use as a reference  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spots on dragon fruit.
« on: July 05, 2018, 07:28:19 AM »
not bad at moment but would recommend to spray some liquid copper fungicide on it

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Yikes, that woiuld beat out even the sweetest mangoes in my orchard. I have a feeling that the brix is due to some sort of special growing conditions. I have Sugarloaf here, and brix has been lower than white jade... haven't tried this year.

White Jade is my favorite. Just ate one that had a measured brix of 20 -- which is sort of off the charts for a pineapple.
Kaui Sugarloaf Pineapple was the by far the best with the highest brix for pineapple

This is from Jude's that she sent over from Hawaii

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White Jade is my favorite. Just ate one that had a measured brix of 20 -- which is sort of off the charts for a pineapple.

Kaui Sugarloaf Pineapple was the by far the best with the highest brix for pineapple



You still never responded to my post from the other pineapple thread:

Please describe the type of refractometer you have and how you did the testing.  I have had a number of the Kauai White Sugarloaf, including some in February of this year where they were not as sweet as those from summer months.  While I never tested them (I really could care less what a meter shows, its about actual taste),  that number seems a bit high.

http://www.iv.ucdavis.edu/files/24488.pdf
That is the reference i used for the Refractometer to calibrate
This came from Hawaii so might have to ask jude her secret  8) 8)

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White Jade is my favorite. Just ate one that had a measured brix of 20 -- which is sort of off the charts for a pineapple.
Kaui Sugarloaf Pineapple was the by far the best with the highest brix for pineapple

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When To Prune Mulberry Tree?
« on: July 04, 2018, 07:40:24 AM »
I'm planning to take a chainsaw to several bottom branches of my large mulberry tree so I can mow under it more easily. I usually prune this tree while it is dormant in winter to avoid all that milky, sticky white sap that gets all over everything if a limb is cut in summertime.
     However, I don't know if I'm patient enough to wait till winter. We've still got a long summer ahead of us here in Southwest Florida with many more lawn mowings yet to go.
     Will it hurt the tree to severely prune it now?
   
It wont hurt if pruned anytime of the year, have done it myself since it was really needing a trim

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Tasting mangoes this season is not going to be a good judging factor as to what you might like. So many of the fruits are sub par to below average that it will be hard to judge what is really good, what it should be versus what it is that you are tasting.   Develop there have been some decent mangoes I have tasted, but even those are only a percentage of the flavor, intensity and sweetness of what they should be. Sometimes this happens when the weather conditions don't cooperate. This is probably the worst mango season in the last 10 years in terms of fruit being washed out/bland in flavor and sugar content.
kinda funny, earlier this year everyone was thinking this was going to be a great one in a long time

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the best is go around and taste throughout next season so you and your family will like the mango kind. since everyone has different taste buds and some that people like my family and i don't like.

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This is the best Fertilizer for pineapples that i found


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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) Thread
« on: July 02, 2018, 06:35:53 PM »
Nice looking, familyJ!
 Is that a hybrid? That looks almost exactly like my Iridescence and Casanova vines .....
Yes this is a hybrid i have 4 different hybrids i am currently growing and then the 2 normal's with one red fruit and the normal yellow
Cool! I have all green or yellowish green fruits. I hear P. caerulea has orange/red fruits when ripe but I believe they’re inferior to incarnata.

I’ve been mourning the last couple days because one of my mature vines with several fruits seems to suddenly be dead - fruits and leaves shriveling up as if the vine had been cut. However, no sign of damage that I can find.
The problem i have is the yellow variety needs to be sprayed with BT often or i always lose them

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Not saying the price is steep but then in a couple of years you can grow many from the tops what i am doing

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60  bucks for a pineapple?  No thanks, I'll keep my spiny leaves and delicious store bought Golds I grow from fruit that cost less than 3 bucks.


So 1st i like that got to taste fruit ASAP to ensure that i liked and then grow them out in the pictures, these are 3 varieties i am currently growing myself at different

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Dragon Fruit Cuttings for Sale
« on: July 02, 2018, 04:45:35 PM »
Updated List and have only Halleys Comet and Vietnamese White at the moment, but hopefully about 5 Giant Hawaiian Gold will be ready in about a month

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Identification?
« on: July 02, 2018, 09:19:33 AM »
was the tree grown from seed?

That I do not know. The tree was already here when I moved into the house.
maybe it is one of a kind, and as long as you and your family like it. that is all that matters, then call it whatever

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Dragon Fruit Cuttings for Sale
« on: July 02, 2018, 09:03:01 AM »
updated list

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) Thread
« on: July 02, 2018, 08:58:20 AM »

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