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Looks like another bad year for late season citrus fruit here near Sugar Land,TX. It is predicted
freezing temperatures for 20 hours with a low of 20F. That is bad enough to freeze late season
fruit. I guess I won't get any good seville oranges for marmalade again. Same thing last year.
Garbage can is covering a coonti. Another garbage can covers my young white sapote.

Untitled by philip sauber, on Flickr

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Hurricane Harvey
« on: September 09, 2017, 07:32:16 PM »
Hope no one gets hit this bad in Florida. Used to live at 4 foot elevation on Merritt Island nearly 50 years ago.

Well fellas, hello from flooded last week Sugar Land,Texas. Being at 75 feet elevation didn't help with river flooding. The river in the pictures is the Brazos. The neighborhood Riverstone was one of the top selling new home neighborhoods in the country last year. My neighborhood is Sienna Plantation, I am on the dry side and not flooded. However a tornado hit and took the roof off 50 houses a few miles away. For some youtube videos google "Sienna Plantation flooding" or tornado. BTW the storm was only a tropical depression when it hit but overstayed it's welcome by 4 days dumping 3-5 FEET of water on us. I left the 36 and 49 Ford woodies up on my bendpak lifts, the 63 verte got left on the ground. Not  a drop of water even in the street in front of my house. I evacuated to 125 miles away but had to drive 400 miles to get there. Left Monday and returned Saturday with the Interstate 10 still closed. They expected the levees to be topped but happily they were not with the Brazos river cresting at 55 feet instead of 59 feet. You Florida guys have my sympathy. Think many of the beach houses on a slab which are the overwhelming majority will get flooded and washed away on both coasts.  Happy for us we have a cold front keeping Irma away from Houston but unhappily for you in Florida.

I am on the dry side of Steep Bank Creek:


Triangle is the flooded area:


This is what hundreds of front yards look like:


Here is what the almosts look like for many $million+ homes on the lake, BTW not my street, the lake on the above picture:



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Citrus General Discussion / Xie shan
« on: September 03, 2017, 08:05:39 PM »
Xie shan fruit in SE Texas already
sweet enough to eat.

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Citrus General Discussion / Xie Shan satsumas
« on: August 01, 2017, 06:34:44 PM »
I sampled one of my in ground xie shan satsumas the other day when I squeezed one and it was soft and already starting to get sweet.
They are already somewhat orange inside, green on the outside. I think one of the reasons they taste so good in my area is they are
so early. They are earlier than any other satsuma I have eaten. Last year a xie shan on my friend's tree was excellent
November 1 when most other satsumas were not ready. However, if you let brand x satsuma hang on the tree until January first
they are IMHO equal to xie sha at least in my area.

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Citrus General Discussion / Canker in Texas
« on: January 04, 2017, 07:33:38 PM »
I've been quizzing the Texas citrus experts about the canker and greening
quarantines in Texas. I am in Fort Bend County which is quarantined for
both. I am not in a canker area. I asked a lot of questions about moving trees,
seeds, and fruit into and out of the quarantine area. Harris County (Houston) is in the
same situation and is the next county north. They have found exactly one nursery
tree with greening. They found canker at a tree nursery but not at the tree
nurseries growers.

I found out I can graft my own tree but not a friend's tree. That is news to me
and I think the experts haven't spread the word very well about that. Many members of
the Facebook group graft trees. The local citrus tree growers are putting in screen houses,
even the ones outside the quarantine area.

What shocked me the most is that canker must have been here for some time.
Surely from people bringing in trees illegally from Florida. There have been 645 trees IDed with
canker and only 350 taken out. The canker area is about 5 miles from my back yard.
This is from someone directly involved in the quarantine.

I think long term only GMO will solve this problem.

Just looked it up. Sugar Land Dave who sometimes posts here is in the canker quarantine area!
I was at his house this spring to get budwood for his giant kishu bud sport that made fruit the size of satsumas
but turns out someone yanked that branch off his tree. Didn't know he was quarantined at the time either!

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Citrus General Discussion / Citrus canker in Texas
« on: November 28, 2016, 10:42:21 PM »
Quarantine area is about 5 miles from me. I wonder how many were sold? 

Richmond, Fort Bend County.
Citrus nursery trees at a retail nursery in Richmond, Fort Bend County, Texas, were routinely inspected by TDA on July 28, 2016. Some of the trees were found to be symptomatic for citrus canker; whereupon, TDA collected samples, placed the trees under seizure, and rushed the samples to USDA for identification. USDA immediately screened then sent the samples off for laboratory confirmation, which confirmed the trees were infected with citrus canker. TDA inspection determined that most of the approximately 300 citrus nursery trees at the retail nursery were infected with citrus canker. With the nursery’s consent, TDA destroyed all the symptomatic and the suspect citrus nursery trees and disposed of them according to sanitation procedures, to prevent accidental spread of the disease. USDA began survey work to identify all infected plants in the area and to determine how far the infestation extended in all directions. On August 10, 2016 TDA established the Richmond Citrus Canker Quarantined Area, in collaboration with USDA-APHIS-PPQ. Inspection of plants, their labels and nursery purchase records, disclosed that the nursery’s multiple varieties of infected citrus trees were from four propagative nurseries in Texas. All nurseries that had sold citrus plants to the retail nursery were thoroughly inspected and found to be free of citrus canker. The citrus nursery plants must have become infected after they had arrived at the retail nursery in Richmond. Currently there are no commercial producers of citrus fruit and no producers or retailers of citrus nursery trees inside the quarantined area. Only dooryard (ornamental/personal use) citrus trees are found inside the quarantined area. To combat the infestation, as soon as USDA locates a citrus canker infected tree, TDA inspectors seek homeowner cooperation, then destroy and sanitarily dispose of the tree. All varieties of citrus and other quarantined articles inside the quarantined area are subject to the quarantine restrictions and requirements." 

Houston, Harris County.
Two adjacent sour orange trees in a city park in Houston, Harris County, Texas, were sampled on May 13, 2016, and confirmed by USDA to be infected by citrus canker. Both trees were destroyed and a delimiting survey of potential hosts has found no further infected plants. The department has quarantined the area that contained the infected plants. All varieties of citrus and other quarantined articles inside the quarantined area are subject to the quarantine restrictions and requirements.

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Citrus General Discussion / Trees third year
« on: May 15, 2016, 06:23:14 PM »
Here is a picture of my biggest satsuma tree. I planted 12 xie shan satsuma trees, nules clementine, nova mandarin and
one nordman seedless kumquat along my back fence. All are on flying dragon rootstock 8 feet apart. I have another row anchored by a cherry of the rio grande on the right and a true bay tree(laurus nobilis not pictured) on the left. In between are a seedling sugar belle, a pear tree, a saijo persimmon and
a couple sago palms. I was growing a seedling sumo dekopan mandarin but since budwood is now available I budded something else onto it. I might get some
in the fall. I use watermelons and mint as ground cover. You can also see my victoria red grapes on the fence. Can't grow European grapes here due to pierce's disease. Victoria red is supposed to be the best bunch eating grape to grow here around Houston. I rescued the sagos from curbside recyling. They take around 20 years to get a 3 foot trunk like the ones I picked up. Some northern transplants don't appreciate sagos! I had them in pots the last 3 years and have them in the back yard temporarily later to be moved to the front yard.

I fertilized this year in February and got tons of blooms and a big fruit set. I pulled all the fruit to let the trees grow another year or 2.




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Citrus General Discussion / Move to Facebook
« on: May 14, 2016, 10:58:01 PM »
Millet you ought to consider moving the group
to Facebook. It is much easier to post pictures.

Here is one I look at:

TX Rare Fruit Growers
https://www.facebook.com/groups/TXRFG/

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Citrus General Discussion / Nutrient deficiency in potted citrus
« on: October 30, 2015, 02:17:19 PM »
OK is this magnesium deficiency? Have several pots that look like this:



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Citrus General Discussion / Here is how we grow grapefruit in Texas
« on: March 09, 2015, 10:20:43 AM »
These were grown by a friend in Matagarda, TX along the coast between near Victoria,TX. Tree is one of three seedlings golden grapefruit planted in 1989
after the 10F freeze when no nursery stock was available. No such freeze since then. Fruit is white grapefruit.


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Back in 1989 there was the big freeze that killed all the Houston area citrus trees. Not many grafted trees around
so Terry Mathern planted some seedlings. They are grown about 90 miles down the coast in Matagorda.
The golden grapefruit with a very mild flavor and tang colored  flesh when grown from seed gives you a white
grapefruit that tastes the same. Navel oranges grown in Texas can get really
large, in this case larger than a grapefruit. Tastes great, less filling!




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Citrus General Discussion / Yum golden grapefruit
« on: January 10, 2015, 03:34:54 PM »
Picked a couple dozen at a friend's house in Spring Branch, TX. They hold really well on the tree. I had already eaten
the fruit on my mature tree in Beaumont by now. The taste is very sweet but not much like a grapefruit.
Fruit are really sweet before Thanksgiving. Grapefruit sized fruit however. One of my top three.


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Citrus General Discussion / meyer lemons
« on: January 08, 2015, 11:23:37 PM »
Nice meyer lemons I picked today. Could have picked 1,000 more. No need to grow your own meyer lemon tree with a friend that has one. What to do with them after lemonade? What to do with a whole trees worth of meyer lemons? Why, Morocan preserved lemons of course for your whole neighborhood. Plastic jars and lids recommended due to metal lids rusting. I however have a quart of preserved lemons left over from last year. A little goes a long way. Easy to make and keeps without refrigeration. I however keep them in the refrigerator to preserve freshness. Quarter the lemons, add a tablespoon of salt for each lemon and fill the jar with lemon juice. No need to worry about not having enough lemon juice with this many meyer lemons. Nice for anything requiring lemons and salt also such as home made salad dressing of any sort. You are really only supposed to save the skin but I went ahead and pureed skins, juice, pulp and all. Good for many a nice tagine, er Moroccan Chicken with rice. Would you like a nice tagine? They say this on every cooking show featuring Moroccan restaurants. Yes I would like a nice tagine. Could sell them at the farmer's market for $1 each as I saw someone doing several years ago but that's a lot of lemons for the 50 mile round trip.




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Citrus General Discussion / atlas honey mandarin
« on: January 05, 2015, 12:26:36 AM »
Here is atlas honey mandarin. Got them from Bill Arendt. Supposed to be a seedless ponkan. I thought ponkan was a large mandarin? These are satsuma size or smaller. Very tasty but somewhat over the hill as they are excessively sweet. Must be an early mandarin and today is rather late. I got a few dozen to really get the taste of them. Bill also lassoed me into being a volunteer at the upcoming UrbanHarvest fruit tree sale Jan 17. I'll have to say the sale I went to 10 or more years ago at a dilapidated former public school in a near downtown Houston neighborhood was quite crowded and high energy with long lines shoving and pulling and quick sellouts. Apparently they have gotten more so and much larger. This one will be at Rice U.


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