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Anyone knows how to get a Sugar Dragon plant in South Florida?

I think I have one growing in my yard here in Springs... though which one it is I'm not sure about. Everything was labeled at one point. It  hasn't fruited yet as it was planted last year. One of our plants is making a lot of fruit (red/purple variety) and they're pretty good for dragon fruit. Again, no clue on the variety.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / When are Monroe avocados ready to be picked?
« on: October 08, 2018, 10:19:46 AM »
First year with fruit on our Monroe tree. I have no idea when it's time or how to tell when it's time to pick Florida avocados. Any insight?

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"lemon zest"

pronounced: "nom nom nom"

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No words will ever adequately describe sex to a virgin.

sure there is. sex is like a properly ripened lemon zest

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sickly Edgar mango tree... diagnose its problem
« on: September 08, 2018, 12:03:23 PM »
This was originally planted over a year ago as a tall scraggly 3 gallon. I 'pugged' it to a few feet tall in hopes that I could better control the tree shape, but in the last year it has not really done any growing and just appears very sickly. It shot out a decent amount of branches but, as you can see, many of them are not developing leaves or what is developed never really goes anywhere. Do I need to yank it out/give up or is this something that an aggressive copper/plant doctor/x-ray radiation is going to fix?








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Humans are members of the animal kingdom. Like other animals it is our nature to kill for various reasons. What should separate humans from other species is our ability to be humane to others since we have the ability to empathize and understand suffering. Burning an animal alive is a form of torture. Not a laughing matter imo. I worked in animal shelters for years you see some bad stuff and these are supposed to be peopleís pets. Including dogs and cats intentionally set on fire.

I disagree. What separates us from other species is our ability to be inhumane. There are very few other species that kill/torture for sport/boredom. Only dolphins and apes come to mind. Just about everything else kills as quickly/efficiently as possible.
Devils Advocate:::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ZH3VzjZGU
https://vimeo.com/47167442

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Z1guM8c3g

https://www.toptenz.net/top-10-animals-that-can-eat-living-things-in-one-bite.php

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPs27xGxshc

I forgot about cats which everyone knows/accepts are evil incarnate.

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Humans are members of the animal kingdom. Like other animals it is our nature to kill for various reasons. What should separate humans from other species is our ability to be humane to others since we have the ability to empathize and understand suffering. Burning an animal alive is a form of torture. Not a laughing matter imo. I worked in animal shelters for years you see some bad stuff and these are supposed to be peopleís pets. Including dogs and cats intentionally set on fire.

I disagree. What separates us from other species is our ability to be inhumane. There are very few other species that kill/torture for sport/boredom. Only dolphins and apes come to mind. Just about everything else kills as quickly/efficiently as possible.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My fruit tree list to date...
« on: August 12, 2018, 02:38:42 PM »
How do you keep the fruit flies from ruining the peaches?

generally, you don't. we cover a lot with organza bags when still small and the fruit flies still get 25 - 50% of the peaches. I suppose I could add fruit fly traps and other measures, though nothing is going to be super effective.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My fruit tree list to date...
« on: August 10, 2018, 10:48:31 AM »
You're in zone 10b so the UF Best peach doesn't really require any winter chill?  The "100 chill units" isn't necessary?
Good catch. Thatís a typo, Iím 10a
Okay.  But what do you think about the 100 chill units?  How necessary are they?  Not advisable for 10b?  Also, this peach is classified as non-melting.  Would that translate as not juicy?

Both UF Sun and Tropic Beauty grow like crazy and fruit prolifically in my yard in Coral Springs.

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from mango to soursop...




Does not seem like a good swap to me...

13 or 14 other mango trees. We're swimming in them.

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yes - popnull dug it out and planted it at his place.

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from mango to soursop...




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When it comes to mango tree removal... trust the professionals. Sometimes it takes a lawyer (me) and a doctor (popnull) to surgically remove a Mallika from its in-ground spot. Hopefully it survives the transplant. Now I just need to figure out who to send my hourly invoice to.





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I need to make some room in the yard and that means the Mallika is on the chopping block. Very healthy tree, fruits well enough, but I need the room. Tree is about 8 - 9 feet tall, a few years old. Not sure if it's feasible to transplant it, but figured I'd see if anyone wants to try. It's getting the chainsaw tomorrow morning if I don't hear from anyone before then.

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I have always counted myself as a papaya hater unable to get over the vomit smell... until we went to Hawaii last year and had the local papayas there which were excellent (sunrise, rainbow, etc.).

We've been trying to grow the Hawaiian papayas here but I'm losing the battle to a group of iguanas that are climbing and eating the leaves/branches. Looks like I need to buy an air rifle to thin the herd because I can't get anything to grow more than 3 feet before it gets wiped out by the iguanas.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: July 14, 2018, 08:25:59 AM »
Surprised to see Carrie in your top 5 but not Angie. They are similar in terms of flavor profile, with Angie being more firm.

Angie is a good mango as a dwarf tree but in my garden I donít put it my Top 5 . Dot, Lemon zest, Coco cream, Carrie, Sweet tart. All of them have very strong sweetness and complex flavor.

What's crazy is that I like Angie (though I wouldn't say top 5) but absolutely despise Carrie. The qualifier I'll put on that is I only enjoy Angie when it's firm/tart. Once it gets softer and develops the Carrie 'odor,' I can't stand it.

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Carrie and Angie are in my bottom 5, and you can add Ugly Betty to that pile.

Love the Ugly Betty, Angie and Carrie. I will take them any day compared to some other varieties such as Glenn, Rosigold, Cogshall and NDM #4. Better than Mahachanok as well, at least for my taste buds.

I agree, the others you mentioned are in the bottom pile.  Lol

My how tastes vary from person to person...

Truly Tropical grows and sells over 80 varieties of mangoes.  Carrie is their absolute #1 FAVORITE BEST SELLER!!  Most hard core mango lovers think Carrie is a superb mango - the facts speak for themselves.

I am very familiar with Truly Tropical and know Chris very well.  I dont choose mangoes based on sales.  I go by taste.  I am alsi very familiar with the Carrie and you will never see me eating one.  To me, they are horrible.  Please don't try to preach to me about how good it is and any mango lover would make it their favorite.  You will not even make me think of eating one or changing my mind.

Not trying to change your mind, trying to make you realize that the vast majority of people 90%?? think Carrie is an excellent mango. Telling people that Carrie is a bad tasting mango isn't accurate.  It's especially bad because your opinion and knowledge on most other things is spot on and well respected.  People are entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

Wait... in the same post you're telling him he's entitled to his own opinion but then telling him his opinion is wrong? The 'fact' that "90%" of people think Carrie is excellent (which I'll assume is a statistic you pulled out of your ass unless you have some poll to direct me to) does not mean that many people, myself included, would rather eat 3-day old cat barf than a Carrie mango. Individual tastes vary - that is an actual fact. You acting like a cheerleader does not make Carrie an excellent mango to those that disagree with its flavor/smell. Normally I wouldn't even post, but the arrogance of you trying to impose your will on others coupled with your 'you're entitled to your opinion even though it's wrong" attitude made me take the bait.

Here's a lesson for everyone out there:

1. Carrie is a mango. That is a FACT.

2. Carrie tastes like sweaty grandma socks. That is also a FACT. BECAUSE I SAID SO.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Cocktail aka 28-18
« on: July 10, 2018, 08:57:33 AM »
As I stare this morning at an endless tabletop of mangoes that I've lost all desire to eat after gorging for a month or two, I'm going to pretend I didn't see this post and wipe it from my memory. 14 mango trees seems to be sufficient for one family.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Purge: Mango Pruning
« on: July 07, 2018, 02:44:51 PM »
Nice trim job, yeah, I guess the grass is always greener on the other side.

Ain't that the truth. The 3-acre house we've been eyeing for years recently sold and we were somewhat saddened when it happened. Now I walk around my .4 acre yard and wonder how the hell I would ever take care of so much property since I can barely keep up after our... I dunno... 50 or so trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / The Purge: Mango Pruning
« on: July 07, 2018, 11:18:59 AM »
The less-fun part of mango season - battling spiders, ants, and the occasional snake to hack back at mango trees in the 100 degree heat. 4 trees pruned today including the below Glenn that I brought back to around 9 feet or so. The addition of a battery-powered pole saw this year has made getting to awkward center branches a lot easier, but not a fun job by any means. I think my shirt weighed 8lbs of sweat when I came in. Only 10 or so more mango trees to go. If all goes well I'll get some kind of Marvel super power with all the spider and ant bites.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kauai White Sugarloaf Pineapples
« on: July 05, 2018, 12:32:13 PM »
I think the 26.5 degree of brix might have been a fluke. I was just looking through the previous posts from simon_grow, and he was getting brix readings of 19 from the same grower for orders received in May and July.

19 degree of brix should be more typical of this fruit. So, I wouldn't assume that there is anything magical about the Kaui Sugarloaf over a regular sugarloaf or white jade. Probably just a good year for the grower.

I have had about 15 of them from Jude over the last year, 3 that were received in February 2018, all others were between June and September 2017.   The 3 from February were by far the worst I have had (all 3 were the same quality).  Lowest in terms of sweetness/sugars and highest in terms of acidity.  The ones from last year were consistently total sugar bombs with very little in the way of acidity (both Sheehan and Peter sampled them).

I am not saying every fruit harvested will be equal (they do have multiple fields) but just making a comparison of what I have been able to sample.

I have placed another order so will see if maybe its the year thats off, different with different seasons or just a total, unknown coincidence with no viable comparison to be made...

Same experience. I got 4 (one of them was smaller so she adds an extra) a few months ago and they were nothing to write home about. What I got from her last year was amazing - night and day difference in the crops.

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PS -- Carrie is not a shipping mango.

Agree. It's also not an eating mango or a growing mango. Blech!

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saveme..
which one you like the most?

usually lemon zest but this year they've been very washed out. some are starting to get some citrusy flavor but nowhere near as intense as they should be.

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Super colorful fruit punch and colorful others. Fruit punch looks like a mango that would sell based on "curb appeal" plus I read it has great taste. Have not eaten one yet.

the couple we've had so far have been leaps and bounds better than everyrhing else this year. Thus far it is the only non-washed out mango in the yard.

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