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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Lemon ID
« on: January 14, 2019, 10:34:21 AM »
Sudachi are small, about the size of Key limes. Very hard to tell without a clear close up photo. Also a photo of the leaves.

The sudachi I grew this year were the size of a small satsuma.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Lemon ID
« on: January 13, 2019, 11:45:01 AM »
Just bought this property from Japanese farmer
Not sure what kind of lemon
Smaller than Yuzu
Skin is darker color taste is not as good as yuzu
Has seeds
Thinking topping it off

Looks like sudachi to me.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cushiony Cotton scale
« on: December 22, 2018, 09:42:41 AM »
Dormant oil

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is super phosphate good for citrus?
« on: November 29, 2018, 08:18:31 AM »
IMHO not a good idea to fertilize citrus in the winter in a marginal citrus growing area.
It encourages growth which lowers cold hardiness.

Brian, for new grafters I think you will have good success with cleft grafting,  Just make sure the stock and scion are about the same size is with.

I think chip budding is easier.

Been growing out a seedling for several years now in Texas.
Not available in Texas. Seedling grown out for buds put on swingle.

Hard to beat Orlando tangelo for just about anything.

I'm getting sticks of Olinda Valencia next week.

I've got midnight valencia. It is OTW.

Phil, I'm not sure about Nordman's taste in Texas, but I think they taste about the same as a regular Nagami, only seedless.

One would think they taste the same but are bland in Texas. My tree and another one of a friend. He actually topworked
his tree to something tasting better.

How’s it compare to changshou kumquat?

Flavor of nordman is bland

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Mexican lemon tree Advice
« on: July 20, 2018, 05:48:33 PM »
LionKing, you need to feed your tree with real fertilizer.  Citrus absorb nutrients in a 5-1-3 ratio, meaning for every 5 parts nitrogen, the tree will also absorb 1 part phosphorous and 3 parts potassium.  From my experience, you can throw away "Superthrive", its pretty much worthless. Citrus are heavy feeders, requiring more nutrition than many plants.  Find a fertilizer with a formula that is higher in nitrogen and potassium that also  contains trace minerals, and feed your tree 4 times during the season.  You should have started a good fertilizer program for your tree last March.  You are starving the poor tree. Good fortune to this trees.


Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pictures from middle Georgia
« on: July 11, 2018, 01:00:38 AM »

In my experience dekopan, nz lemonade, and valentine pummelo aren't as hardy as
mandarins. A friend had nz lemonade and valentine I gave him of some size freeze at 19F
and killed the trees. He just got dekopan this year. I imported budwood for dekopan to texas
from florida via the texas budwood bureau at great expense. I topworked a swingle root stock to
dekopon this year and it is 8+ feet tall now.

8a means temperatures as low as 10F. 8a is very marginal for in ground citrus without protection.
10F will kill any unprotected citrus tree. I'd suggest in addition to what you are doing you bank the trees with dirt for just in case.

Here in 8b/9a I bank the trees to cover the grafts so the occasional 19F won't kill them to the  ground.
Even at that, last year's 19F freeze defoliated all but the satsumas.

I can only convey my experience with Meyer lemon from cuttings.  I bought two small cuttings just over 3 years ago and planted them in the ground. I have to protect them in winter. They are now over 8 feet tall and wide and carrying well over a hundred lemons each. I have pruned them many times to maintain a size I can handle, and they need it again. Last year they produced 70 - 90 lemons each...I lost count.
Lemon are as standard to my table as salt and pepper shakers but still, what do you do with so many lemons?

I have a friend with a mature meyer lemon tree. Every year I pick at least 10 gallons of lemons. I could pick 100 gallons if I wanted! We drink lots of lemonade and make salt preserved lemons.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Omari satsuma leaf distress
« on: June 30, 2018, 11:52:16 PM »
Nitrogen deficiency

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Valentine and Santa Teresa sions..
« on: June 25, 2018, 10:51:59 AM »
Millet your Valentine and Santa Teresa sions grafts are doing very good. They are growing in Rootmaker pots still but will be uppotted probably in late August and going in 15 gl containers. S/t has one fruit left and is getting large.
Btw Millet are you familiar with a orange with this name: Pineapple Orange. A close friend  of mine who live in Texas has a large tree but i do believe Texas is quarantine.

Only parts of Texas are quarantined, the Valley and an area around Houston. I am in greening quarantine.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sanguinelli Blook Orange
« on: June 24, 2018, 12:01:53 PM »
Yes, but usually only get streaks of red. Tarocco no color most years as it is very late.
With cool winters the get redder but never as red or purple as the fruit from

This is smith blood and the reddest I 've ever seen

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sanguinelli Blook Orange
« on: June 23, 2018, 09:49:41 PM »
Had my first Sanguinelli Blood orange.  I like Moro Blood oranges, which I see in the stores frequently, but I  rarely ever see Sanguinelli.  I would rate them as just fair to OK, nothing special.  They are a hard peeling fruit.  In my estimation they are not worth growing.  Morro is still king of the bloods.

I've grown moro, sanguinelli, smith blood, and tarocco in the ground. All are excellent. Sanguinelli is later than moro but just as good IMHO. Tarocco is later than sanguinelli.

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Dekopon seeds
« on: June 03, 2018, 08:55:41 PM »
Blood tango fruit is now available in the grocery store. I bought some fruit but
had very few seeds and the 1 or 2 I found I crunched up while eating. The fruit
was fabulous with a very distinctive flavor and dark red color.
They were in the stores in March/April.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: More HLB In California
« on: May 26, 2018, 12:53:50 PM »
This is really terrible news and the beginning of the end of California citrus.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: How long does citrus budwood last?
« on: April 11, 2018, 11:53:36 AM »
I store in damp paper towels/zip lock and check for moldy towel every few weeks.

I grafted varieties of mandarin 8 buds on single trunk on my planted tree, facing different direction and heights, 3 inches apart. what you think are chances of take? Do you do bud grafting? I want to hear more about bud grafting.

They may take but will they force. the top bud may suppress the lower buds.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: How long does citrus budwood last?
« on: April 07, 2018, 01:01:36 AM »
At least a month if wrapped in damp paper towels and store in the refrigerator and likely a couple months.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: first Indio Mandarinquat
« on: March 25, 2018, 05:16:26 PM »
Someone else commented that they had been growing kumquats and a mandarinquat outside in the ground in Seattle for a 3 years.
"Hybridizing cold hardy citrus to grow in the Pacific Northwest", Matt Hedlund, forum, beginning of 2018

Please provide link. I'm from Missouri. I think unprotected kumquats and mandarinquats wouldn't survive the prolonged freezes
in the Pacific NW.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Picture request
« on: March 14, 2018, 10:23:57 PM »
I have some 10 xie shan on FD 4 years old. Some are already 5 feet tall.

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