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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sauropus androgynus - Sweet Leaf
« on: April 17, 2018, 11:23:40 PM »
Have been growing and eating katuk for a couple of years now. Mix it in salads and soups, or just nibble when out in the yard. Never eat more that a couple of grams or so. Little flowers are thick and stout. They taste nutty. Good in salads.

My plant is 6 - 7 feet tall or more, grows in partial sun, and seems drought tolerant. Must've grown roots through the fabric pot, because it looks nice even when it hasn't got water for a while.

I find it useful to place a feeder in the front yard, and the squirrels and birds congregate there, away from the fruit trees. Also, have a bunch of surinam cherry trees fruiting in the back and side yard, seems to keep them occupied most of the time.

Is there a neighborinator version? =)

Rollinia, sapodilla (alano and silas w), and moringa grow and fruit very well here for me, with almost no troubles or extra care. Lemon drop and seashore mangosteen, along with achachairu, grow well, but no fruits yet. Panama Red and Possum Purple passion fruit grow and fruit on their own. Kari starfruit is another easy one to grow, fruits off an on all year. Jackfruit is growing well and stress free. Almost everything I've tried except abiu has done well. Cacao were stressing in ground, but are recovering in pots, outside in mostly shade.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Do you like jujube fruit?
« on: April 04, 2018, 10:42:10 PM »
Love jujubes! Growing the Indian green, I think. Very refreshing fruit

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: There's always a first time.
« on: April 03, 2018, 11:43:51 AM »
Woohoo! Its a great feeling when the 1st fruits start coming in. You can celebrate by eating them, jabos ripen quick

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: March 31, 2018, 01:29:00 PM »
Dream annona graft appears to be taking (on gefner), pushing some growth. A few of the scions are looking similarly.

How do you know when possum purple is ready? with panama red, as soon as the green fruit started showing some red, they were good to eat. These are purple from the time they set fruit, so not sure what kind of change I should be looking for. Do I have to wait till they start to shrivel?

Lil Glenns

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Cherry that can take -40C
« on: March 24, 2018, 02:02:43 PM »
I like it too. Seems to be a nice fruit and small plant, with quite a few cultivars. Doubt it would fruit down here, but tempted to try.

I like gifting plants like these for friends and family members that live in cooler climates, partially because I fantasize about showing up around harvest time.

I ordered on Amazon and got seeds a littler bigger than strawberry seeds.

Is there a dwarf Royal Poinciana?

There are dwarf poinciana, but do not know about a dwarf royal. I have a hybrid dwarf, does not create a canopy like the royal.

The seeds of RP that I've seen around here are pretty big, about jelly bean size. They come from large pods that hang from the trees.

I can get you some seeds

Thanks for the seeds Carlos. They arrived in very nice condition and are currently germinating.

Hope you are feeling better.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fabric pots opinion?
« on: March 21, 2018, 09:29:38 PM »
fabric pots are great for growing, but they don't look as good as other pots, which usually doesn't matter anyway. Need to be filled properly, can't partially fill them like a solid pot or they fold in.

growing katuk, ginger, turmeric, galangal, and purple potatoes in them, along with a few others, and they are all doing fine.

haven't noticed any root bound plants. roots will sometimes grow through the bottom, but they are super thin and the pots are easily moved, ripping them away with little resistance. I've had roots grow through plastic root pruning pots as well, but they tend to be larger in diameter.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: March 17, 2018, 10:26:30 AM »
Dang, you are correct Brandon. They were more obvious in the morning sun. Hosed away the ants and aphids, rinse, and repeat. Had to be careful to find the right setting and pressure that gets the bugs but doesn't damage the flowers.

This tree has been largely just left on its own. Gets some of the well fed sprinkler, occasional watering from me, and has been fertilized maybe once in 2 years.  Kind of surprised it is flowering.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: March 16, 2018, 08:12:42 PM »
Macadamia (beaumont) just started flowering, woohoo!

Some big ants on them. Any chance they are pollinators or should I blast em with the hose?

My incarnata is huge and blooms like crazy, yet haven't seen a single fruit yet.

So far, Panama Red has been the tastiest I've tried. Good producer too.

Waiting for orgiant, nitida, and laurifolia to flower and fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: March 15, 2018, 09:02:41 AM »
Yeah, I was thinking the same. Not sure which variety(ies) of chrysophyllum they are but the morphology is pointing in that direction. I guess we will find out soon. Good luck- Chris

Okay, thanks! That makes sense, never thought that black sapote and caimito were that similar before, so was surprised to find myself uncertain as to which was which. Going to do some grafting on these puppies and the much larger in-ground tree that is growing well but has yet to flower. Thinking DPI Gold and Juicy Pearl.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: March 14, 2018, 11:43:58 PM »
I would say those are both caimito. Black sapote leaves are waxy and the bottoms are a lighter shade of green than the dark green tops. The leaves are generally flat and caimito's have ribbing.  Caimito leaf bottoms have distinctly different coloring from the tops. The new growth on the larger specimen also looks like caimito. I am not the best at recognizing foliage though.

Thanks for your appraisal.

So you think they're both caimito? Its certainly possible, but they have to be different cultivars. I was thrown off when realized they both looked bronze on the underside of the leaves. The smaller one is more pronounced bronze to me.

Both trees were neglected for quite a while, needed repotting, a bit dry, with some scale on the leaves. Think they will bounce back nicely with new pots and a lil care.

Anything else anyone can think of that looks a lot like caimito?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: March 14, 2018, 10:23:56 AM »
Hello everybody.

I could use some help identifying these 2 small trees. One should be black sapote, the other purple caimito grown from a seed from PIN. The marker on one of the tags is unreadable, and the other one disappeared in all the mayhem and confusion associated with hurricane Irma. Thought looking on the bottom of the leaves would clarify, but they look so similar. I am left uncertain. Please share your impressions.

I think the one on left, with larger leaves, is the black sapote, and the one on the right is caimito.

Underside of larger leaf specimen

Underside of smaller leaf specimen

That's good news JR, as my ON is covered in flowers and can't wait to try it. From what I've heard and read, think ON, along with lots of mangoes, grows and fruits differently here than in other parts of the country. So the out-of-state reviews may not apply to us that much, and vice-versa.

The op probably will want to listen to Mark, as their climates and conditions are likely more similar.

If you are buying on that scale, and selling anything, maybe you can buy plants at wholesale prices? Not sure how this applies to nurseries and agriculture, but years ago my wife and I started a small clothing business, obtained a tax id #, and were able to buy materials and other needed items at wholesale.

Another option is eBay. Some sellers might cut their prices down further if you buy in bulk. Some are local to FL.

Good luck with the projects. You are in a great place to grow. enjoy

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cacao Tree Loaded with Pods
« on: March 05, 2018, 07:11:39 PM »
So nice. dream of the day my cacaos look even half that good. One pod would have me doing flips. They are starting to come back, but have only seen one flower in 1.5 years. I salute you

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any drawback to Maha chanok?
« on: March 05, 2018, 07:07:26 PM »
Roblack I have minimal experience with grafting and I am worried if I try top work a mango tree I might butcher it

My experience with grafting is rather limited as well, so someone else should chime in and show the way.

I just found some stalks that were around the same size as the scions received, clipped them near enough to the ends where green was still noticeable on the outside, cut a slit down the middle, and placed a v-shaped wedge of the budwood down into the cut. Then buddy taped them as well as could. Its been about 10 days now, they look good but too early tell if the grafts took. Was advised to wait until it gets hotter to graft, but came across some scions and jumped. hth

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cutting panicle on young mango trees
« on: March 05, 2018, 07:32:56 AM »
I've been told it is best to not cut the panicle, but to pick off the tiny mangoes and leave the panicle intact.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Music to plant your Mangoes by
« on: March 04, 2018, 02:33:46 PM »
Maybe that's my problem. It's like I've been blastin "Killing in the Name Of"

Pine Island Nursery  - huge place in Miami area

Last time I was at Pine Island they did not mind if you wandered around and gawked. I am not 100% sure they have the same policy but they probably do.

I like to gawk while riding shotgun in the golf cart =)

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