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I'm a big fan of kumquat hybrid and I was wondering how come there is no hybrid with big fruit yet?
I think it could be a very interesting fruit commercially, it's strange there isn't more hybridization testing.
Something like a orange or a grapefruit cross which maintain the size and combine the sweet skin.
I have an orangequat variegated and while the taste it's exactly like orange, it's still a kumquat in size.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can anybody ID this avocado?
« on: April 12, 2018, 08:33:55 AM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Can anybody ID this avocado?
« on: April 09, 2018, 12:05:19 PM »
Hi, last year I bought 2 avocado grafted on Water Hole, and left the rootstock grow since I want to keep a pure mexican variety.
I bought from a nursery which I think buy from viveros blanco and since I can't find anything about Water Hole and the pictures on the website look awfully similar to Walter Hole(with an extra L) I thought it was that.
Problem is the leaves doesn't resemble the few I can find about Walter Hole, and it doesn't have the usual anise smell of the mexican avo.
The leaf is huge and almost two times that of the bacon you can see on the right(although it doesn't seem from the picture). Also it was damaged more than the  Bacon and Hass growing on it.
Any idea what's that?
Other roostocks Viveros Blanco use are Mexicola, Nachar, Maoz and Lula.

Before trashing it you can try bridge grafting it. It's a technique to repair this kind of damage.

Problem is yours start almost at the base, so it can be difficult.  You could try doing it diagonally.
Another two possible solutions:
1-Plant a seed to the base and inarch graft the trunk above the damage.
2-Do something like the above but graft the lower end to one big wooden root like this:

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Eremolemon
« on: April 05, 2018, 01:04:47 PM »
I bought a grafted eremorange at a nursery with the fruits on. The fruits fallen soon and the taste was super sour.
Not sure if it was really an eremorange cause it looked different from another eremorange grown from cutting I had before that died.
It wasn't an Eremolemon or Eremocitrus for sure because the fruit was orange. I also have an Eremolemon which didn't fruit yet.
It could be mine was still young and did drop the fruit before ripening or it could be something else, maybe citrangeremo?
I doubt that even arrived in our country however.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Do you like jujube fruit?
« on: April 05, 2018, 05:12:45 AM »
Thank you all for replies.
I read that jujube tastes like dates which I do not like. But I read quite a few posts with people loving this fruit and comparing it with really good apple which I let’s give it a try. Honey jar - I am coming to adopt you into a loving home.   :)

There is two kinds of flavor mostly. The one that is super sweet without tartness(this is the one compared to dates) and the kinds with more balanced sweet/tart flavor( this is probably what people compare to apples).
I can't stand the sweet one, but it seem much more common in commercial varieties.
Judging by the name, "Honey jar", I'm quite sure it's the sweet kind comparable to dates, so I would avoid it in your case.
Then it also depends on the level of ripeness, some people wait for them to wrinkle so that it gets even sweeter.
Of course there are in between varieties, but you get the idea.

Buy with confidence. Had 100% germination from Hari, Hirsutus seeds.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / What artocarpus fruit is this?
« on: March 23, 2018, 03:24:32 AM »
I saw this fruit on facebook, the seller says it's a jackfruit but it seem more like a small chempedak.
Can you recognize the species and the cultivar? He doesn't seem to speak much english.


Here you can find seedlings( or rooted cuttings, I think the translation is wrong):
This seem a dwarf variety, the original cultivar I think it's trademarked.

Some info:

I've used my super searching skill for your quest  8)
Try looking for Prunus mume, doesn't seem so rare.
It's not a cultivar of regular Apricot(prunus armeniaca) but another species.

Since it's grafted, it is a known cultivar?
Info on the fruit?

Raul, will you have them available in a few months?
I am interested but right now it's too cold and would like to avoid to refrigerate them( does it even work for this?) .

By the way, how many years does it take with grafted plants?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Anyone have Gomera mango seeds?
« on: February 18, 2018, 05:41:50 PM »
Just want to say that in my opinion Gomera is overrated.
I have one 2 year plant bought in a nursery in a unheated cheap greenhouse and it's in a much worse condition than a seedling less than 1 years old outside the greenhouse.

how many years to fruit from seeds and how they are cold hardy(can they grow in a. cherimoia area with few nights of -2 during the winter?
I'm growing them in middle Italy(Ancona) with no issues, they are just covered from the cold wind and less than 1 year old, so for sure you won't have problems in your place.
I did plant the seeds directly on the ground in may/june last year and have been growing happily without any shade cloth.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jujubes Make Me Happy
« on: February 14, 2018, 01:26:45 PM »
Thanks for the info on cold hardiness!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jujubes Make Me Happy
« on: February 08, 2018, 02:41:27 PM »
How cold hardy are these Indian Jujube?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Inga cold hardiness pictures
« on: January 30, 2018, 02:13:40 PM »
Finally some concrete info on cold hardiness, thank you.
What's the rootstock and how old is that? It seem quite old.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sale: anona scions
« on: January 21, 2018, 01:37:05 PM »
Early anona scions sale limited amount:

Yucatán seedless(20 9lb fruit) fiberless

Sisal custard apple

Giant Yucatán sugar apple

$5 per scion 10 minimum
Will they survive an international shipment? How much is shiment to Italy?

I already sent the cash on 17th January  but he cannot answer till now its a sad news my cash will lose
Try send him an email, he always reply fast by email.
It's in the first post.

Nice info!
Are all 46% Urea fertilizer low biuret or there is no correlation?
Cause I only found 1 product labeled as low biuret.

Another thing. I read this help with cold temps, but Urea is mostly Nitrogen while just yesterday I saw a video saying applying PK fertilizers helps with cold, so which one is the correct one?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado tree water requirements
« on: January 15, 2018, 12:15:50 PM »
Mature trees can take  up to 400 gallons per week.

If you dont water them they wilt and the fruit falls off within a few days.  I have had my trees wilt and drop fruit after not watering for 4 or 5 days of really hot dry windy weather.

If you water after they wilt they do come back quickly.  If you continue to not water the leaves will die and the wood will turn black and tree will eventually die.  If you water just enough to keep the tree from wilting it will slow the trees growth and you will not get good fruit production.  They also get salt burn with insufficient watering schedule.  The pro avocado farmers will do excess irrigation periodically to leech the soil of salts.  They may even go so far as to use special devices that pull water from the soil so they can monitor the TDS and EC levels of the ground water in the rootzone.

This water requurement all depends on how hot it is, how windy it is, and how low the relative humidity in the air is.  Also the quality of the irrigation water.   When its hot, dry and windy the trees perspire a lot.  They do take more water than some plants and less than say a banana.  There is a lot of leaf material on avocados and a lot of fruit.  They need to metabolize a lot of sunshine and water to be productive.
Woa, that's a crazy amount of water. Hopefully it can be contained with a small canopy.

"Most of the avocado roots are in only the top six inches of soil and are under the canopy out to the drip line."

I did know about that, but it doesn't answer my questions.
I did find some sources stating 5-20 gallons several times per week once adults, but there is a big difference between 5 and 20 plus "several" is even more generic.

Did you bother to look at the link I provided above? HOW MUCH WATER TO USE:
Sorry and thanks.
I tried to open it, but was on mobile before and it was taking a while to load, since you quoted that part I thought there wasn't what I was looking for and closed.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado tree water requirements
« on: January 14, 2018, 08:42:25 AM »
"Most of the avocado roots are in only the top six inches of soil and are under the canopy out to the drip line."

I did know about that, but it doesn't answer my questions.
I did find some sources stating 5-20 gallons several times per week once adults, but there is a big difference between 5 and 20 plus "several" is even more generic.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado tree water requirements
« on: January 14, 2018, 06:48:27 AM »
I often read comments online about how water hungry is Avocado cultivation.
Since I grow plants for hobby and I use a water well, I never paid attention to how much water I do use.
How water hungry are Avocado trees compared to other fruit trees?
What happen if you don't give it enough water? Will it not fruit at all or will the fruit be smaller or less tasty?

My Bacon is taking more cold damage than my Hass, but it's probably because the Hass arrived with much more healthy root system while Bacon was too big for the container in which arrived and the roots weren't in the best condition and it didn't grow much.
This just to say that the condition of the tree(soil, roots, fertilization) affect a lot the outcome and it's really hard to make a comparison.
I have two specimen of Passiflora Edulis x Colvilli planted in two different gardens, one was so healthy and happy that it tripled its trunk size in 6 months and has a huge canopy. The other was planted around 2 months later and didn't grow much and I doubt the difference is only due to the 2 months difference.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Making changes after this freeze
« on: January 04, 2018, 06:58:26 AM »
So do water helps against freezing? Won't it risk of freeze the water too and do even more damage? Or you are keeping them on until the temps rise?

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