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http://www.nature.com/articles/srep13425

I wonder if it's possible to create a device that monitors electrical activity in plants, so we could test for viabliity on grafted scions?
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Re: Monitoring electrical activity of a scion, to test for viability
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2017, 02:48:32 PM »
HAHAHA you should have been a scientist. What ever happened to the submerged jaboticaba? I wish I could find the pictures from that experiment, but it looks like they got deleted :-(. That was one of the raddest speriments that I've seen.
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Re: Monitoring electrical activity of a scion, to test for viability
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2017, 02:58:17 PM »
http://www.nature.com/articles/srep13425

I wonder if it's possible to create a device that monitors electrical activity in plants, so we could test for viabliity on grafted scions?

You might be on to something. I guess real question is the cost of all this equipment and supplies necessary?
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Re: Monitoring electrical activity of a scion, to test for viability
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2017, 03:14:51 PM »
Yes there is a very cheap but valuable devise your eyes.

This reminds me of a device I was looking for in response to a scientist talking about the problems when the trees star emitting ethanol. He gave a long lecture about it. After he was finish I asked him where can I get this devise. Reply $150,000.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2017, 12:45:19 PM by CTMIAMI »
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Re: Monitoring electrical activity of a scion, to test for viability
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2017, 02:33:31 PM »
Some sort of continuity tester is what you want.

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Re: Monitoring electrical activity of a scion, to test for viability
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2017, 03:02:13 PM »
Some sort of continuity tester is what you want.

kj

I guess that could work but it would be more helpful to measure resistance.
However this would indirectly measure scion viability by measuring moisture.

The main problem would be sticking in metal probes into the plant might just kill it.


I think a non intrusive measurement would be best.
Some plants manipulate the natural electrical field around them when flowering, some scientist think this is a method of communication with insects.
This area of science is relatively new.
Experimentation is required
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Re: Monitoring electrical activity of a scion, to test for viability
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2017, 03:21:51 PM »
Sounds like a tri-corder may be called for.

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Re: Monitoring electrical activity of a scion, to test for viability
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2017, 04:17:25 PM »
i think the problem is, as CTMIAMI stated, the technology exists, but is probably cost prohibitive because of how sensitive the device would have to be.
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Re: Monitoring electrical activity of a scion, to test for viability
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2017, 04:19:28 PM »
or maybe there is a signature electrical response, that can be identified, measured and recorded, just about the graft union, as the scion and rootstock are successfully merging?
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Re: Monitoring electrical activity of a scion, to test for viability
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2017, 05:22:14 PM »
I wonder if you can run very low voltage through the grafted tree to see if as the graft takes or dies you can see a reading change? Connect one pole to the seedling and one pole to the scion. May be the low voltage electricity can stimulate the union.

Any Electrical people out there?
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Re: Monitoring electrical activity of a scion, to test for viability
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2017, 05:28:39 PM »
is getting interesting
See page 4 of this article under Microcurrent Experiment of Regeneration
https://therapyproducts.net/Matrix-pdfs/clinical-studies/ModernLowVoltage-MicroStim.pdf
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Re: Monitoring electrical activity of a scion, to test for viability
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2017, 06:39:05 PM »
is getting interesting
See page 4 of this article under Microcurrent Experiment of Regeneration
https://therapyproducts.net/Matrix-pdfs/clinical-studies/ModernLowVoltage-MicroStim.pdf
Seems like we transitioning to a little more than just reading data.
If you want to experiment with STIMs then icyhot makes a $30 sort of disposal one.
My degrees are in electrical engineering, however time is the challenge. I'll help with what I can.
First thing first I probably should read through the papers.
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