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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« on: October 04, 2017, 03:59:36 PM »
Could be, it's definitely pretty mild here. Gonna be rocking these guys in a greenhouse this winter I think.





Thanks a lot for the pics.  I have been worried by what I considered to be curling at the edges of the leaves, but it looks like that's just the way the leaves develop.  How old are your plants?  Have your found them to be vigorous or somewhat reluctant growers?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« on: October 02, 2017, 02:24:04 AM »
Thanks a lot :-)  I'll put them back outside and see what happens.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« on: October 02, 2017, 02:20:28 AM »
I'm using distilled, but I'll try rainwater and maybe that will do the trick.  Do you have them outdoors or indoors?

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Just keeping the thread alive.  Anyone out there growing these???

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« on: October 01, 2017, 12:13:40 PM »
Thanks for the information :-)  I'm guessing that they don't like the heat here in Miami.  Maybe I'll try putting them outside again over the winter and see how they fare. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« on: September 30, 2017, 12:39:02 PM »
Here's the link to the slide presentation, if anyone's interested. 

https://es.slideshare.net/gabbyabad2/caricaceae

Thank you for this. I need to check my seeds to see if they popped up yet. I would love updates if you feel like posting them.

Well, I'm not sure how everyone else is doing with these, but my seedlings are not doing very well.  They have grown, but they are certainly not thriving.  Is anyone else doing well with them?  I'd love to compare notes....

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Does anyone know where Fairchild obtained their grafting material?  My understanding is that the single introduction into Florida was a tree that didn't produce particularly good fruit. 

I'm growing mine from seed, so it's anyone's guess what it will taste like.  The seeds appear to be polyembryonic, so now I have a few more seedlings than I was expecting.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Want to Buy Mango Scions
« on: September 29, 2017, 02:47:02 PM »
I have Kesar, Anwar Ratol and ST Maui if you can wait till spring :-)

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Bear in mind, you are asking about a species, not a clone, so impressions about quality could vary quite a bit.  I suspect that the ones from Fairchild are seedlings so probably best if you can get advice from someone who has fruited trees from their same seed source.  If you think about it, what kind of responses would you get if you asked if asked questions about Mangifera indica, not specific clones?

It has probably been 2 or 3 years since I have had kuini.  The ones I tried did not seem to have objectionable fiber.  They are highly fragrant (some call them durian mango but the smell is nothing like durian, just very strong).  I think the fragrance is supposedly linked a good deal to the skin.  I cut up the ones we had & put them in the frig to minimize the odor.  My wife liked them & did not comment on the odor when eating them but always asked when she opened the frig, "what is that smell"?  The flavor was not exactly the same as mango but, if you had to compare it to something, mango certainly comes to mind.

I believe that kuini is a bit more tropical than mango so it may be more inconsistent there -- better for someone else to comment on that.  I have been trying to train mine to stay compact (~12' height limit) but it is too early to say if that will be successful.  I am skeptical that they would do well as a potted plant.  They are supposed to be very resistant to anthracnose.  I have heard that they are self-fruitful but I don't know for sure.

One thing you will notice with kuini (& also some other Mangifera species) -- new growth is a beautiful blood red color, very showy.

John
Thanks a lot for the information, John.  I have a couple of seedlings and they are indeed a brilliant red when they flush.  Beautiful to look at , but not worth having if they taste like crap.  I may try keeping mine in a pot to see if that helps with size control.  Ideally, I would like to keep it at 8-10 feet.

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Curious about those questions as well.

I almost bought a kuini at mangofest this year. One of the workers told me it was good for container culture, then another supposedly more knowledgeable person said it was a fast grower, gets big, and is not good for container culture. Being that space is limited, decided against purchasing. Part of me still regrets not getting it.

Have heard the fruit can be quite good, but think it has a bit of fiber. My guess is it will take some time for better cultivars to be identified/developed.

The trees looked very healthy and were beautiful, and they supposedly grow well in South FL.

Would definitely grow kuini if had more space, just to have something different.

You might be able to get more information from someone at the farm at Fairchild, as they are growing and selling them.

I am growing them from seed.  I have 3 seedlings, but I only have space for 1 - and only if that can be kept small.  If you'd like I'll be happy to send you a seedling.

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Hi,

I know that people are growing Kuini in South Florida,and I am wondering if it a tree worth having in my orchard.  What is your experience?  How is the fruit compared to a standard mango?  And how easy / difficult is it to fruit compared to standard mango varieties?  Does it "pug" well?  Is it susceptible to anthracnose / phytopthora?  Is it self-fertile or does it need a companion?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pingan and Pedalai in South Florida, Zone 10b/11
« on: September 27, 2017, 02:11:24 PM »
Hi all,

Is anyone  in South Florida growing and fruiting A. sarawakensis and A. sericicarpus?  Can they be grown here?  Are they worth growing?  I don't have a lot of space but would like to add an Artocarpus to my collection and these 2 look very interesting.

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Which Jamaican pepper are you looking for?  I have a few MOA scotch bonnet seeds.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sad mango seedling
« on: September 03, 2017, 08:35:11 AM »
There's nothing wrong with it.  That's the way new leaves look.  They'll turn green and firm up eventually. 

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Is Samar-e-behisht the same as Chaunsa?  I've read in several places online that they are the actually same mango.

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They have sprouted very sporadically.  Some came up in just a week, but some took a month or more.  In fact, I just had a new seedling appear a few days ago from my initial planting, so don't give up hope.  Hopefully, yours will sprout as well.  I kept the soil extremely wet (they really seem to need a lot of moisture) and 80s-90s temperature. 

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Just a quick update.  It's been several weeks since three seedlings were planted outside in the ground and it's becoming pretty clear that they really do not care for our soil here.  They are becoming yellow and dropping leaves, but the plants outside in containers seem to be managing just fine.  So I guess these are going to be container plants after all.  That's kind of a bummer.

How is everyone else doing with their plants?   

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Fruit production on my yellow edulis varied greatly over the 5 years that it was in the ground.  I did get somewhat better results by hand-pollinating, but not enough to justify the effort.  This year I removed the plant because fruit production fell to practically nothing.  I may re-plant from seedlings or from cuttings, but I'm considering just replacing it with something else - a nitida, laurifolia or maliformis maybe.  Fruit quality was good, but it's not my favorite fruit by a long shot.  Still have Possum Purple.  It has smaller fruit, but it's much more productive and slightly sweeter.

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Hi... Durio oxleyanus, zibethinus and garcinia dulcis ready now.

I'd like 5 oxleyanus seeds, please!!!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grow durian in pots
« on: August 07, 2017, 08:07:17 PM »
I have 2 Pokulani (sp?) durian seedlings planted - one in the ground and one in a pot (as a backup plant just in case....).  After a year's worth of growth, there is absolutely no difference between them. 

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Just a quick update.  3 seedlings are planted outside now.  They seems to be handling temps in the 90s just fine in partial shade.

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Thanks for the information.  M. Francis is one of my favorites!

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Here's the link to the slide presentation, if anyone's interested. 

https://es.slideshare.net/gabbyabad2/caricaceae

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Strawberry Protection Society
« on: July 24, 2017, 01:40:36 PM »
Is anyone growing strawberries in S. Florida (10b/11)?  I've tried a couple of times and failed miserably.  It doesn't seem like they can tolerate the heat and humidity here.  I'm wondering if I need a specific type or if it's just not possible in this zone.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Korlan?
« on: July 23, 2017, 01:25:48 PM »
I don't know about the blooms, but the leaves look right for Korlan.

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