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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nitrogen deficiency?
« on: September 24, 2018, 10:03:48 AM »
Can be a Nitrogen deficiency because of root damage by overwatering.
yep......too wet and cold can make it go like that too........in spring they will drop just after new growth starts.....im getting some leaves like that now....dropping and we had a cold winter this year....def wasnt too wet mind and lemons tend to do that  a lot.
regardless you should remove the sucker from below the graft as that is the rootstock.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Foliar spray
« on: September 23, 2018, 11:53:02 PM »
Hello all!

Winter is rolling around here in Canada (6 inches of snow where I live) and I am trying to give my 3 plants the best chance to thrive/survive the winter. I have 1 Eureka lemon, 1 navel orange and 1 key lime. I fertilize them once a month with a 30-10-10 water soluble fertilizer with minerals. . I understand that citrus are heavy nitrogen feeders. Can I use my same 30-10-10 fertilizer as a foliar spray to try and give the plants some extra nitrogen to help keep them thriving over the winter? Or should I go with something else?

Thanks!
seaweed is excellent as foliar feed....supplies trace elements as well.......but if their is no growth going on.......i wouldnt get too carried away........the biggest concern is keeping them on the dry side of moist.....because temps are lower they transpire far less......if they get plenty of rain....they stay too wet and the roots will rot........you didnt mention if they are inground or in pots........we have just come out of winter and i kept my trees under the eaves and away from the heavy rain.......collected rain water and i decided when they should have water.....not the climate.......wet feet is the biggest killer of citrus.....so watch for that....when spring comes.........give them an all mighty flush to get rid of salts ....apply your slow release ferts and then kick them into life with a liquid feed of fish/seaweed......the slow release might take a little while to kick in....so the liquid feed gives them stuff right now........Do this when you see the bud break.....its spring in perth west aussie now and all my trees are going nuts........most important time.....to do the right thing for your trees.........like millet said......one month before the spring burst....foliar feed with something high in urea but not a high does.......I did this to all my trees and my friends and all of them are covered in blooms......winter is a boring time except for some citrus like meyer lemon/lemonade that fruit all year round and grow anytime....most citrus take a nap during winter....If there is growth going on in winter....then i would feed but half strength    and good idea bringing them in out of the cold.........when you put back out in spring......gradually acclimatize them back with the sun ......so there is no shock....same with taking them in.....maybe just go in at night to start.  .Good luck.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Keeping Kumquats?
« on: September 23, 2018, 06:09:44 PM »
wow ...so cool...all these varieties......i think the best we get in western australlia is the nagami....dont recognize any of these other ones......but id like to grow the best tasting and sweetest i can....i have a couple of calamondins and they are good for marmalade...not eaten whole and they are not a kumquat anyway....i think.....i will have a sniff around but nagami is quite common here....they might have the meiwa one here...i will have a sniff.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Container Citrus & Rain Water
« on: September 23, 2018, 06:02:33 PM »
i bought some calcium nitrate in nz once from garden suppliers....they asked me a whole load of questions before they sold me my 20kg bag........apparently they use it to make bombs ! ....its volatile.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Container Citrus & Rain Water
« on: September 23, 2018, 05:42:30 PM »
Dolomite lime is better than standard lime as it provides a nice blend of calcium to magnesium..........in spring and summer it gets added to my ferts for both inground and containers........ground egg shells provide slow release calcium as well.
millet.......if there are no  minerals in rainwater.....why do plants respond so well to it?....my understanding was rainwater is organic and contains organic particles.....if that is the case.....it would contain nutrients.........everything always looks really green after a good downpour......tap water contains lots of chemicals and to me just keeps cells turgid...........the lawns always look really green after a good downpour......they never look like that from irrigation from reticulation.....generations of gardeners swear by rain water......so something is going on there my friend.
if there are non of the nutrients you say.....then why do plants always respond more favorably to water from the sky than from a tap? ..this answer will be gold !

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The damages are worse than what any sunburn could do.
I have a friend here in Perth...a few of his trees show similar carnage......we get 40C here in summer.
Once it starts it opens the door.

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Probably sunburn......that looks like a bad case of it.....painting trunk with water based exterior white paint can help........there is no foliage there to help cover up the trunk.
Go and stand by the tree when the sun is up and you will probably see that ..that side of the tree gets all the sun.......a shade cloth could help as well.....paint it and let time heal.....that is why the other side of the tree is happy !

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Citrus General Discussion / Spraying trees with urea
« on: September 07, 2018, 07:04:26 PM »
I read a post from Millet that suggested spraying your trees with urea a month before spring burst........so i sprayed my mates trees and sprayed all my trees with a fert high in ureas @ the beginning of August........All but one of our trees are covered in blooms........So thanks for the tip Millet......now to spray again when fruits are the size of a pea.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: How to prevent ants going up your trees
« on: September 02, 2018, 01:52:50 PM »
There is a guy in eastern australia who paints the whole trunk white on potted citrus to protect them from sunburn.....just water based exterior white.....looks funny though.....they stay sticky for ages but it does go a bit ugly(dark after a while) but it does the job.......we get small ants and bull ants as well.....they bloody hurt.....but my mate gets infested with the ants....they live in the rootball and are all over his trees.....but leafminer are the biggest prob over here........but i have managed to get very fast new growth on a few of my trees.....that close up of the new growth(other post of my trees) went from bud to full leaf in about 3 weeks !....leaves are clean and nearly full size with no sign of leafminer yet because its still cold....6C at night and 19C days but things will warm up soon and when they do......the miner will come out.....so i will be spraying very soon with neem oil.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: How to prevent ants going up your trees
« on: September 02, 2018, 01:49:04 PM »
There is a guy in eastern australia who paints the whole trunk white on potted citrus to protect them from sunburn.....just water based exterior white.....looks funny though.....they stay sticky for ages but it does go a bit ugly(dark after a while) but it does the job.......we get small ants and bull ants as well.....they bloody hurt.....but my mate gets infested with the ants....they live in the rootball and are all over his trees.

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Brian, for new grafters I think you will have good success with cleft grafting,  Just make sure the stock and scion are about the same size is with.
Thats what i will be doing....the cleavage one ! hahaha

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: my trees putting out fresh growth
« on: September 02, 2018, 01:40:31 PM »
Thanks Brian......my original idea was to put a few in the ground....keep a few in pots for when i move to my dream home.........but it has escalated a
bit ! .........just keep upsizing every year .....i have some huge terracotta in the shed....about 5 of them......so a few could end up in them !
          I have killed plenty before....now i just pot up in stages and i dont have the problems i used to...like soggy feet.

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Very interesting ...esp as i have just started looking into doing some of this myself..

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Citrus General Discussion / my trees putting out fresh growth
« on: September 01, 2018, 12:30:58 PM »
35 trees and 6 in ground all fed for spring and putting out lovely new growth....plus blueberries/feijoas/strawbs/pears/apples/figs/mangos....gotta love springtime.



















































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Citrus General Discussion / How to prevent ants going up your trees
« on: September 01, 2018, 12:15:17 PM »
Its the start of spring in Western Australia  and all the bugs start thinking about it.....ants climb up your trees and farm aphids with them.....which suck the sap from all that fresh new growth....This is a non toxic way of keeping those ants out of your trees....
Tools you will need= masking tape and vaseline.
Wind the tape from the top to bottom ...sticking it to the trunk....at the bottom...do a half twist and go back up to where you started.....finish it off........then smear vaseline along its length.....ants will not go beyond....i use longer because it also acts to protect the trunk from the harsh sun but shorter is ok as well.....works a treat....now i await the leafminer !




































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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is horticultural oil safe for citrus
« on: August 18, 2018, 02:43:10 PM »

I have used neem oil in Perth western australia.......the strange thing is......they recommend it for ornamental trees here but not for citrus but in nz they say its fine for citrus...............we have a big problem with citrus leafminer over here.....I have tried pest oil/eco oil and it doesnt work........they coat the leaf but the miner still get in.....the neem is a bit different....it coats the leaf but it also soaks into the leaf ....killing the bug as well........it doesnt offer 100 % protection but i find its the best i can do.........I usually spray early eve around 6pm and every 14 days..........Spring is nearly here and all my trees are putting out spring flush..........last year the miner turned up early.....they are supposed to come summer time.......i hope they stay away this year....so i can get that spring growth to maturity .....will need to start spraying soon.........the only one i dont spray is the kaffer lime because i use the leaves for cooking on that one.
Sounds good to me ! ..Thanks

LDB, Neem is an organic extract that is widely used in the cosmetic industry to be applied topically. Also, it is approved to be ingested for certain ailments (perceived or not, I'm not sure). It is harmless to mammals and other vertebrates (lizards, frogs, birds and the like).  I've read it isn't the best for fish (not fatal but slightly deleterious) so keep it out of ponds and streams. In other words, no need to withhold neem from your kaffir lime because even if you ingested a little bit it could be good for you!  So spray neem without concern on your foodstuffs. (Clearly, as with everything, moderation is paramount.)
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As far as i knew most citrus wont ripen in the tropics....so if they do..Good luck to you....
I know they need heat in the summer to help the fruits size up and they become acidic but to ripen they need temps below 10C to convert the acids to sugars.....In Fiji its no good....for that reason,....except for limes.......a gentle squeeze as well as colour are good indicators.....I like to leave them as long as poss ...to the edge of the plant sucking it back in and then they become dry(yuk!).
That is why california grows the best navels in the world and where i live in western australia is also prime citrus country....maybe  bit hot in summer....Can get to 40C plus but winter  time.....we get plenty of winter nights below 10C and some 3/4/5 C which is perfect with no Zero/ice or snow.....we get very sweet mandarins/oranges/lemonade/pineapple orange etc as a result.....Epsom salts around ripening time could help your fruits become sweeter.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is horticultural oil safe for citrus
« on: August 16, 2018, 10:15:02 AM »
no.....i always write like that  ;D

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: When to repot
« on: August 15, 2018, 12:44:37 PM »
Tip the pot on its side....if you see roots coming out the drainage holes...its time to repot.........early spring is a good time to repot.......the temps moving up will encourage growth...esp roots..............never repot in winter when its cold and damp and most trees are having a rest.....thats my 2 cents worth.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Clamondin
« on: August 15, 2018, 12:37:32 PM »
Yesterday I was at a nursery in NJ that had a large calomondin in a container.  An employee told me it was ~40yrs old if I heard her right.   I had never seen one this large. 


I love those terracotta pots brian....I have a few that size and smaller ....My favorite pot.....i have two calamondins as well.....my friend made marmalade  out of them for me

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is horticultural oil safe for citrus
« on: August 15, 2018, 12:34:56 PM »
Sylvain, thanks for your clarification on neem oil as a citrus spray.  Like I wrote, I have never used it. 

Mtlgirl, I would be very cautious spraying HO or anything if the tree's flowers are opening. I would not foliar spray while the flowers are open or even opening.  By the way does Mtlgirl stand for Mountain girl?
I have used neem oil in Perth western australia.......the strange thing is......they recommend it for ornamental trees here but not for citrus but in nz they say its fine for citrus...............we have a big problem with citrus leafminer over here.....I have tried pest oil/eco oil and it doesnt work........they coat the leaf but the miner still get in.....the neem is a bit different....it coats the leaf but it also soaks into the leaf ....killing the bug as well........it doesnt offer 100 % protection but i find its the best i can do.........I usually spray early eve around 6pm and every 14 days..........Spring is nearly here and all my trees are putting out spring flush..........last year the miner turned up early.....they are supposed to come summer time.......i hope they stay away this year....so i can get that spring growth to maturity .....will need to start spraying soon.........the only one i dont spray is the kaffer lime because i use the leaves for cooking on that one.

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seed should be just under the surface mate....not 3 inches down......you can also try that cocktail sticks skewered over a glass of water thing but ive never had a joy with that......hunt on you tube.

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I have found the same here in Perth.......In the heat of summer i place my containers so they get morning sun only....until 1pm and then they are shaded........I have three trees that receive little sun in my courtyard with roof cover and dappled light and they all look healthy........I have mixed results with the 4 i have in the ground that are in full sun.......i reckon they need gradual conditioning to full sun...........In winter time.....the sun sits lower........so i move my trees closer to the house......and under the eaves........they still get the same amount of sun but boy does it rain through winter here.......its rained for the last week...every day......My newly seeded lawn is going for it !
I find the only trees that like full sun in perth are mango"s and Papaya.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: what deficiency please?
« on: May 31, 2018, 12:09:40 PM »
Thanks Millet......I thought so.........my trees are in very sandy soil......so i will sprinkle some epsom salts around them.

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Citrus General Discussion / what deficiency please?
« on: May 30, 2018, 02:15:04 AM »
This leaf is off my lime tree....i suspect its a magnesium deficiency...Am i right please? or is it iron?


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