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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need help with fruit identification
« on: January 16, 2019, 10:01:33 AM »
wow that's some serious mislabeling :D

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeeds
« on: January 15, 2019, 08:26:57 PM »
Score! Just Fruits & Exotics is awesome. I've ordered from them before.

The shatoot has to be grafted, but I have root stock available :D

I'll PM you in a sec. Thanks.

How does one order? I see a few items I would like.

Where did you get the shatoot from?

Send me a pm

The shatoot came from Just Fruits close to Tallahassee.
I was coming back from Georgia where my wife's family lives. With my wife and two kids
in a SUV I managed 4 trees. I thought my oldest kid could have found a ride and I could get
one more tree but my wife said no? Two of the trees were 5'-6' feet in 7 gallons. Nothing like
driving 250+ miles with a car full of trees with the family.


The tree was grown from a cutting along with a jujube I bought. I can't get shatoot or jujube
to grow from a cutting. Really nice nursery and nice owner!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeeds
« on: January 15, 2019, 06:51:10 PM »
How does one order? I see a few items I would like.

Where did you get the shatoot from?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« on: January 15, 2019, 10:14:00 AM »
Right. I think he means the group. They do expand their territory quite rapidly.

He said one 3 gal. so the pot could have had 3-4 suckers peeping and then 3-4 suckers each in the rattoon so it's possible.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit identification
« on: January 14, 2019, 06:06:58 PM »
Ohh -- OP is referring to the vine on the tree in the 3rd pic.  I don't think I've ever seen monstera climb. It's a ground dweller.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit identification
« on: January 14, 2019, 05:20:57 PM »
Yah, stay away from the braz pepper.

Monstera is quite good. It's more like a vine with bigger, prettier looking leaves. Grows very well in shade. A good ground cover if you have space (they can eventually cover a lot of ground). That plant in the picture is a common south florida plant; just not sure what it's called (def not monstera though).

Not sure what the bush in the last pic is. I thought it was carissa at first, but on closer inspection, maybe it's some sort of holly? Definitely not muntingia (what we refer to as strawberry tree down here in broward).

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It's sending you a message: "Feed me!" I might switch over to a slow release mix like Har's 0-3-16 plus some sulfur to lower ph and perhaps drenches with iron chelate. Probably going to be deficient in copper and manganese as well.

The vp could be in a better area of soil. Or it could be better at nutrient absoprtion due to cultivar. Or, maybe the chlorotic tree was pruned more? (the leaves hold nutrients). Or maybe the chlorotic tree is older (and has depleted the little bit of soil nutrition was there to begin with). Etc.

Can someone help me with this:
Front of leaves

Back of leaves



A Valencia Pride planted 15ft away looks fine.


Both receive 8-3-9 w/ micros during growing season (although, not as much as they should)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit identification
« on: January 14, 2019, 03:48:11 PM »
Top one looks like brazilian pepper. Invasive. Leaves smell like pepper.

Second one is not monstera.

Not sure what we're looking at in the 3rd photo.

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No.

i was wondering if soursop is like cherimoya, where it needs the leaves to drop in order for the flowering buds to come out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« on: January 11, 2019, 10:23:16 PM »
I would do it, but I'm not entirely sure if it's a bad idea or not.

Do I need to wait until March to feed them  8-2-12? Is it OK to fertilize now?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« on: January 11, 2019, 07:47:19 PM »
8-2-12 only, but I give it a lot. 8-2-12 is miracle in a bag, but you need to use a good amount of it. The only trees in my orchard that don't get it are mangoes (those get Har's mix).

Maybe it just wants a particular nutrient profile to be productive? I blast my saps with a lot of nitrogen, which seems to have a big impact on production. I've heard a lot of folks complain about lack of production from haysa, but mine produces a boatload of fruit... actually snapped a branch a couple of months ago.

Does prolific actually live up to its name or is it just a marketing stunt?


I know people here (AUS) arenít happy with prolifics production. Mike is one of them (I think he cut his down), Iím sure he will chime in if he sees this thread.


Edit: here you go :) http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=16922.msg214735#msg214735



I was about to cut down my Hasya as it had produced just one fruit in 4-5  years since it was planted, but a couple of weeks  ago,  i found four little fruits on the tree. I have since decided to keep the tree. Jeff, do you use 8-3-9 or 8-2-12 for sapodillas? Do you give it foliar sprays as well?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« on: January 11, 2019, 04:17:35 PM »
Maybe it just wants a particular nutrient profile to be productive? I blast my saps with a lot of nitrogen, which seems to have a big impact on production. I've heard a lot of folks complain about lack of production from haysa, but mine produces a boatload of fruit... actually snapped a branch a couple of months ago.

Does prolific actually live up to its name or is it just a marketing stunt?


I know people here (AUS) arenít happy with prolifics production. Mike is one of them (I think he cut his down), Iím sure he will chime in if he sees this thread.


Edit: here you go :) http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=16922.msg214735#msg214735

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« on: January 11, 2019, 12:07:06 PM »
Search for prolific here: https://hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/sapodilla.html

An old time variety that is reported to bear heavily. Sounds like a winner in my book. I think the newer cultivars might be focused on smoother flesh?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« on: January 10, 2019, 01:35:06 PM »
That's good to know. I might grab one :D. Thanks for the tip.

Looks like ZHPP has an active facebook presence finally.

Funny thing is -- I actually prefer the gritty saps to the creamy ones. But no one propagates the gritty ones, so they only come from seedlings.

Excalibur has done some I think. Like Brown Sugar and Prolific

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« on: January 10, 2019, 12:28:29 PM »
Looks like ZHPP has an active facebook presence finally.

Funny thing is -- I actually prefer the gritty saps to the creamy ones. But no one propagates the gritty ones, so they only come from seedlings.

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How cute!  Hopefully he'll be happier now that he has new friends.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« on: January 10, 2019, 10:05:10 AM »
They're tough plants, and the fruit is quite good as well. One of my favorite fruits to grow here.

Damn! I just noticed this!
   I wish you had posted earlier. I missed the boat.
   What's the furthest north on Florida's gulf coast where sapodillas can be successfully grown?
   I'm in South Sarasota County and my attempt failed years ago and I've been afraid to try again. I know these trees do well on Pine Island, but that's its own microclimate.

We were 30F last year and my sapodillas didn't blink. Another forum member from Lakeland was
colder and commented on their resilience. I planted a Morena on the South side of a huge oak and
it barely grew. I dug it up and put it in full sun and it is finally flushing.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How To Improve Jujube Fruit Size?
« on: January 08, 2019, 04:24:12 PM »
Yah, check fertilization.

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Regarding the fruity flavor, that's probably cultivar specific. But the acidity is generally a factor of picking time.

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Per my experience growing jacks, the acidity is due to picking slightly under-ripe. Allow to ripen on the tree to mitigate acidity. I'm actually the opposite and prefer my jacks on the tart, so I pick them mature green.

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Per mature tree. That's what I give mine every year. Gypsum is roughly 1/4 calcium, so that translates to maybe 30 pounds of calcium. And for max brix, you want somewhere around 10 to 20 pounds of calcium per pound of potassium.

Lack of firmness is generally an indication of lack of ca. Compost can make ca deficiency worse, which is what I assume may have happened in your case. Try laying down gypsum. You can get it at Helena Chemical for about $12 / 50 pounds. I've been adding 100 - 150 pounds a year to each carambola tree.

100-150 pounds per tree??

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I use Pristine on my mangoes as well, in a rotation with a couple of others. It's on the EPA's "Reduced Risk" list. Good stuff.

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That's not necessarily true though. For the folks living in Homestead, there is obviously no need to provide supplemental calcium. However, individuals growing on sand or compost can benefit from supplemental calcium. Also, providing supplemental potassium (regardless of source, be it organic or conventional) can cause ca deficiency.

Gonna have to agree with Mark in Texas.

To get higher brix, ensure proper level of calcium.

Yes thankfully calcium is one thing Florida has plenty of, at least at my farm.

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Nearly full bloom on both of my older lemon zest trees, Maha Chanok (very reliable bearer for me). Sparse bloom on most everything else.

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Gonna have to agree with Mark in Texas.

To get higher brix, ensure proper level of calcium.

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