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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Jabo
« on: June 11, 2019, 11:50:35 PM »
Howís the skin on the red jabo? Tasty? Thin? How tall is your tree?

I don't find it tasty. Tannic, bitter, relatively thick.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ...on sapodillas
« on: June 11, 2019, 11:47:31 PM »

Friend gave me this fruit from Nelsonís in ft pierce, first one Iíve enjoyed as it wasnít sweet overload more balanced, but the grit was persistent...questions for the forum whatís the grit? Are their cultivars with non existent sandlike grit? TIA


The "Grit" is called stone cells. Similar to what is in Pears.

As mentioned in the post above, some are bred to lessen this effect.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Size of red jabo tree?
« on: June 11, 2019, 11:46:34 PM »
Nursery near by has Sabara (More vigorous than Red) that are easily 20+ years old. Well fed. Mulched. And under a constant AC line drip for water.

They're probably 12-15 feet tall. maybe 12+inch girth.

In general, i don't think they're vigorous or aggressive trees.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit thieves
« on: June 11, 2019, 11:43:49 PM »
why does this threat keep getting randomly Necroed? Lock it and move on.

People steal. It sucks. It's human nature.

have one growing as a seedling from Adam as well.

in its 3rd or 4th year.

Insipid, sour, lots of latex. If left to "orange up" the very core can be very unique tasing - sweet, apricot-y, tangy, but also with lots of latex, very watery, and a kinda gross texture.

Not a fruit i would consider worth the time and will likely pull mine eventually.

Cherry of the rio grande and GUABIJU should be ok, When I was at Adam's at FFF
he had Barbados cherries planted out side? Also Uvaia should work. 

Check out what huertasurbanas is selling, He is from Argentina and has stuff that
will work. Very nice seller and he will inform you on low temps that his plants can
take. Miguel pt from Portugal has a 9b greenhouse and his property is 9a. He has
a wealth of info and experience.

There are some real zone pushers on this forum and can give pointers on how to
stretch the limits. I am in 9b on the edge of 10a and also find myself pushing. I have allot
of mulch and organics around my trees and on cold nights I water heavy and this year I got
30F one night and got through it ok. I have a cotton candy tree and it got burned a bit
but not seriously.

I find myself checking the records temps for my area and it can get really cold here
throughout history. There were record nights in the teens here in the past. Scary!

Welcome to Florida!

I've never heard of any of those except Barbados cherries (Astoundingly similar taste to paint thinner >>) thanks a ton for the advice!

Barbados/Acerola don't have any resinous flavor, were you perhaps thinking of Surinam cherry?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fast growth rate megathread
« on: January 07, 2018, 07:54:25 PM »
Mulberry, any grafted superior variety. Grow/fruit very quickly and tend to grow vertical very quickly. Did not see them on the list, so perhaps worth adding.

Wax jambu can be fairly quick to fruit. i planted a fairly small 3g this growing season and it's flowered. Around 4-5 feet tall now.  They are fairly attractive plants as well. Grow in a nice shape with little training, big long deep green leaves.

I have not found Acerola to be as quick as stated, it usually takes 1-2 seasons to establish before beginning to fruit heavily for me. This is planting it from a 3g.

smaller mango tend to fruit, establish and grow significantly faster than larger specimen, i.e 3,7,15 gallon vs a 25. A well cared for 15 gallon mango will likely fruit fairly significantly the next growing season after it is planted.

I share the opinion on ambarella whether eaten ripe or green. I would not have one taking up space, even the ultra-dwarf varieties that take up very little space.

I know the fondness of the plant is also dependent a lot on nationality - i think those that grew up with the plant in the tropics are really fond of it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kari star fruit question
« on: December 12, 2017, 10:38:36 AM »
Do you know if the star fruit trees are strong meaning the tree is still alive even if the leaves are dried up? I'm planning to wait until spring and then put it in the ground.

Mine have recovered a few times, but they do seem to get progressively weaker each time they re-flush, particularly as the new growth is extra sensitive to wind.

Mine also seem particularly sensitive to PH in the soil and show deficiencies regularly prior to correction.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet tart mango fruiting already
« on: December 02, 2017, 01:50:30 AM »
blooming now is pretty common. The fruit don't size up very quickly in the colder months and pick up speed during the spring and into early june/july for the "mid" varieties.

Would make sense to spray sulfur to combat powdery mildew to ensure optimal fruit set once the flowers are near opening.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Category 4 Hurricane Irma
« on: September 14, 2017, 01:36:21 AM »
I am in ne cape Coral.

I purchase the lot next to me and planted it out over the last 1.5 years. Overall extremely lucky for 90+ winds +gusts .

1 absolute casualty in a snapped sugar apple. 1 probable casualty in a star fruit.  Plenty of tree that needed straightening stomping and staking and one large mango that needs heavy staking to correct a lean. But all in all super lucky and grateful for 50 trees  and such light correction needed

No power 3 days now is the worst part

yes, they are tiny. Probably why they are typically $5-6 a plant. I think it's tissue culture or claimed to be.

to be clear, i'm talking about the plants when you order them, not the height of the mature plants!

i ordered figs and blueberry from them before. Have no idea if they were the variety they claimed as i never successfully fruited them beyond  a small handful of berries and figs before i got rid of them prior to a move, but they came promptly and were well packaged. Be aware they are very small plants, 1-2 inches in height with corresponding rootball.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart Mango Tree On Ormus....
« on: July 28, 2017, 01:08:09 PM »

5LBS Of Pure Un Processed Dead Sea Salt $ 13  ( I buy the 5 LBS ) .

And yes I applied it to every living plant in my garden including my Rare Palm trees 😊

You keep applying sodium chloride and..........

But the pseudoscience and un-cited "studies" tell us if we chant ritualistically and think positively while aligning our chi with positively charged water that our yields will be increased by 50000%

Would be willing to help but on the opposite coast in cape coral. I work at home so am always around, other than fairly frequent business travel though i doubt watering will be an issue this summer in any case. Have purchased the vacant lot next to me which i'm turning into an orchard so plenty of room for storage there. Its far but if no other option feel free to drop me a line.

have used

it was mixed mulch though, fronds/leaves/hardwood/etc. Good quality stuff in bulk and very cheap. particularly compared to MW. Although i understand MW just recently reduced their delivery rate, it used to be 16 yards delivered was ~$400.

I ordered from this guy and he packed his truck full and i ended up getting 20-21 yards for 175 delivered.

he is based out of NFM right off slater

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What mango variety is this one?
« on: May 04, 2017, 02:34:49 PM »
First guess was pickering as well

Looking to find which vendors may have the following items---
Black Sapote
Sugar Apple

If you are a vendor heading there and will have these varieties, please PM me and I would like to head right to your booth. It gets kind of crazy inside and hopefully I will get a shot at a few of these. Last couple sales have been great. Thanks in advance--

Echo has thai giant jujube, sugar apple (red and thai lessard), pineapple i think just sugarloaf, and few nice examples of lisa and geffner atemoya in stock as of yesterday when i visited. Also has a seedling ilama and a few beat up rollinias that would be a gamble.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: royal poinciana dwarf
« on: April 03, 2017, 12:41:27 PM »
They are easy to root from cuttings and develop significantly quicker than from seed, if you cant find one for sale.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiu tree?
« on: March 23, 2017, 12:42:25 PM »
Are they able to be pollinated by Canistel?

I didn't have enough time to do the tour but checked out the nursery today. It was really busy!

Picked up 2x Cotton Candy mango (one for a friend)
an abiu, custard apple, himalayan mulberry and a malay apple.

There were a few other things that piqued my interest but i had limited room as i only had my car. I had my eye on the blue jaboticabas (they had 2, decent size around 3/4" caliper for $50) but passed due to other interests... now thinking i may go back and get one. There was also some salak palms but they looked too nasty (thorny) to even pick up so i passed although i know thye are a bit of a collectors item. Few other less common trees here and there as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Potted mango tree problem
« on: March 17, 2017, 11:46:15 PM »
root mass may not be enough to sustain full size fruit in a 15g. May be rootbound.

can't really tell anything without pictures.

shoot....I missed it :( Next year. I keep telling myself I will go visit. Many of my friends have told me I would really like it. Is there anything else coming up in the next month or so with ECHO? Thanks for letting us know:)

~ Paraponera

it's tomorrow (18th) i think he put 17th by mistake... if you're local can still make it :)

Just wanted to let everyone know ECHO's Food and Farm Festival is tomorrow (3/17) from 9am to 3pm. We are having a big sale in the nursery and have a lot of neat stuff in stock.

thanks for posting this. Love Echo and wasn't aware of the event - i will be there!!

When you see a Asplundh truck (usually orange) in your area. Approach the crew and ask them for the mulch.
They always want a local place to dump. I have never had them say no. You will be swimming in mulch in no time!

Don't you guys ever worry about that stuff having weed killer in it, and wiping out your trees? Those trucks pass by my house all the time, in fact my sister's ex boyfriend is a manager for a tree trimming service but I'm afraid they might have chemicals in them. Am I just paranoid?

I bought a chipper, and keep it at my parent's ranch. There's no shortage of stuff to dice up there but admittedly it can be a lot of work.

Not sure I understand the concern - if a topical had been applied it'd have to still be wet for it to come into contact to have any effect, and the contact would have to be on something that hasn't lignified or the leaves which seems unlikely given the application of mulch. If it's a systemic they are almost universally targeted at specific weeds, typically broadleaf or types of grasses. If a tree or bush that had been chipped has absorbed some of the chemical I cant imagine it would be in a stastically significant amount to cause any hard. I think the only real concern is seeds of invasives like Brazilian pepper but those are abundant enough to likely already be present anyway.

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