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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: San Diego garden photos
« on: May 22, 2018, 11:57:34 PM »
Hello Spaugh,

    Is your place close to Rawhide Ranch in Bonsall, Ca?
You have an awesome place!  Congrats

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafting experiments
« on: May 22, 2018, 07:43:39 PM »
Thanks Simon,

Looking forward to reading your results on your experiment..... good luck!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafting experiments
« on: May 21, 2018, 09:20:36 PM »
Simon,

I am new to the Lychee growing so this might be a question that has been asked.
Are the Florida Lychee trees ok to grow out here in So. cal or is it better to purchase a California grown Lychee.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart Budwood Graft
« on: May 12, 2018, 02:40:18 AM »
That’s awesome! Sounds like you and Behl have had some success with early season mango grafting. We’ve had warmer weather these last 2 months compared to last year if I recall correctly, at least in my area.

Hey Khaled,

     Hope all is well!
  Credit goes to Behl.  I don’t think success would have came without his help.
Yes,  the weather has been great and it’s only going to get better  :D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart Budwood Graft
« on: May 12, 2018, 02:34:14 AM »
Awesome to hear
Have you been growing this outside or inside green house?
I wish I can buy some scions soon. Too impatient to wait until late July.

I started off by keeping it outdoors in part shade.  Once I started seeing growth pushing,  I stared giving it full sun for about 6 to 8 hrs.
I did bring it inside at night only because it was below 60’ when first grafted.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart Budwood Graft
« on: May 11, 2018, 01:33:30 AM »
Wanted to give an update.  So far all is going well.
The Sweet Tart grafts are starting to push some growth.
The multiple branch budwood piece is showing growth.  I’m excited about this graft.
It’s just the start so will give more updates as I see more growth.
Here are a few pictures.










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart Budwood Graft
« on: April 25, 2018, 01:39:32 AM »
Hope you have success with your grafted Sweet Tart. From my own experience, mango grafts are most successful from late July to Early September when temperatures are highest and both the scion and rootstock are in full bud swell and growth mode.

Here is a recent photo of my Sweet Tart mango tree blooming on manila rootstock. I grafted this Sweet Tart in Late July 2016 and it has grown quite nicely over the past 1 1/2 years. The Bottom Photo is my Coconut Cream Mango Tree which was grafted to a manila seedling in late August 2016.

Johnny






Nice looking trees Johnny,  congrats.
Let us know when they we can pick up some mangos... ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart Budwood Graft
« on: April 21, 2018, 04:25:36 PM »
The middle on with the multiple branches, any reason you didn't split those into 3 or 4 separate grafts?
Good luck, hope they all take.

I agree with Behlgarden.  That multiple branch piece of budwood was such a beautiful piece that it would hurt to split it up.  I too am confident it will take.
Will most definitely keep everyone updated.
Will post pictures as soon as I start seeing growth....
Thanks again Behl

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sweet Tart Budwood Graft
« on: April 21, 2018, 12:28:52 AM »
Just wanted to share a new Sweet Tart veneer and cleft graft.
Thank you Behlgarden for the beautiful budwood, your help and advise.  Thank you also for sharing your beautiful garden.









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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Type of Mango Seed
« on: April 13, 2018, 11:07:35 AM »
Lionking...... Very hard to tell what the variety is from the embryo seed but can tell you that both seeds are mono & all the varieties you mentioned are mono...... Mike

Thanks Mike,  I figured it would be pretty much impossible to tell from a see but figured I'd give it a try being that both seeds have a different root sprout showing.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Type of Mango Seed
« on: April 13, 2018, 12:41:52 AM »




I was wondering if anyone can help me in identifying these seeds.
The first picture.  Seed came fro a mango that was give to me.  They didn’t know the type.  To me it looked like a Haden or Tommy Adkins... maybe a Glen.  The taste was sweet,  with a hint of peach flavor.
Not sure which it would be.  It just looked like one of those varieties to me.  Could be wrong.

The second seed picture.  This mango was also given to me.  I believe it was either a Kent or Keitt.
The mangos were purchased at Costco.
I figured that I would germinate and plant, but now I’m curious on what I have.

If anyone has any idea,  I’d appreciate the help.
Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this a sign of a mango disease?
« on: April 06, 2018, 12:52:06 AM »
Sorry for not having better pictures.  I do notice that yours are in the center of the leaves.  As for mine,  more on the outside edges.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this a sign of a mango disease?
« on: April 06, 2018, 12:48:00 AM »
Hello Sam,

Great question.  I have a young Manila Mango that also shows some of the same.
The tree is doing well though aside of that. 




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Agreed. My mom planted a mango seed at her house - 6 years later and it’s shorter tha n my 1 yr old.

Brad - funny you mention a car wash. M‘Y dad owns a car wash in Glendora and he has a seedling thatbis 40 feet tall and produces abundant numbers of small tasty mangoes.

And being inland, Glendora gets really hot during the days but can get quite chilly at night.

K

Hey Ca Hockey,

Where about sis the car wash?  I live in Covina/San Dimas border.  My kids go to school in Glendora..
I’d like to see that tree and maybe taste one of the mangos when available

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango’s - Which of These is Best
« on: March 30, 2018, 12:24:03 AM »
I don't believe orange sherbet is available although rumors say its in the works. Coconut cream and sweet tart are top tier. Lemon zest is plagued with problems in Florida and Zills is no longer propagating it

Thanks for the info.  I am actually on the waiting list for Orange Sherbet when it becomes available.
As for lemon zest,  I did read that it will no longer be available and that Orange essence was pretty close in flavor.... but I have yet to hear if that’s true...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango’s - Which of These is Best
« on: March 30, 2018, 12:16:12 AM »
From a production standpoint, it is hard to top Valencia Pride in California.  It's a productive tree for me.  The taste is ok for the non-mango snobs.  I give this mango to my friends and co-workers because it is pretty and large.  Better than super market mango but not top tier.

Carrie I have trouble getting it to grow well in my yard.  Maybe slightly more susceptible to die backs on florida rootstock based on me and my friend's experience

Alphonso is a pretty tree for me, blooms like crazy but doesn't seem to set fruit well for me.

Keitt I grow only because it is the latest mango in my yard.  allows me to have mangos in January/Feb in the yard.

My friends have good experience growing sweet tart in california. 

My personal favorite is coconut cream

As for Florida rootstock- turpentine ,  Simon had a thread a cpl of weeks back on the very subject.
I personally will now grow all my trees on  rootstock that does well here in So.Cal.  After reading everyone’s experience with how the Turpentine does here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango’s - Which of These is Best
« on: March 29, 2018, 11:51:06 PM »
I’m wanting to grow a few trees.  My list consists of Orange sherbet, fruit punch, and one more tree.
I also have a Manila growing but will be using it for root stock.
Also debating if I should use the Keitt for rootstock and pick up one more making me a new list of
Orange sherbet, Fruit Punch, Carrie, and ?  Sweet tart ,  coconut cream, lemon zest?🤔

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango’s - Which of These is Best
« on: March 29, 2018, 11:40:00 PM »
From a production standpoint, it is hard to top Valencia Pride in California.  It's a productive tree for me.  The taste is ok for the non-mango snobs.  I give this mango to my friends and co-workers because it is pretty and large.  Better than super market mango but not top tier.

Carrie I have trouble getting it to grow well in my yard.  Maybe slightly more susceptible to die backs on florida rootstock based on me and my friend's experience

Alphonso is a pretty tree for me, blooms like crazy but doesn't seem to set fruit well for me.

Keitt I grow only because it is the latest mango in my yard.  allows me to have mangos in January/Feb in the yard.

My friends have good experience growing sweet tart in california. 

My personal favorite is coconut cream

I too have a Keitt but it’s still young.  Won’t be fruiting for a few yrs.
How well does coconut cream do in So.Cal?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango’s - Which of These is Best
« on: March 29, 2018, 11:34:29 PM »
Alphonso doesn't do produce well in SoCal.
Not on your list, Sweet Tart does do well and is a high quality mango

Good to know,  thanks! 
I will have to pay a visit to Champa, see if Jimmy carries this mango.
@JF,  Carrie is available at Mimosa LA.  Will be picking one up.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango’s - Which of These is Best
« on: March 29, 2018, 10:37:09 PM »
Out of those varieties Carrie is my favorite. I'm in florida though. I personally consider the others mediocre at best. Valencia pride is an extremely vigorous tree. Carrie is delicious if picked at the right time with a lot of flavor depth similar to some fine Indian mangos

That’s all good.  Everyone's response and opinion is appreciated no matter where anyone is from.
And if you have any knowledge of which one is the hardiest and would do well in So. Cal,  that is a plus😁

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango’s - Which of These is Best
« on: March 29, 2018, 10:02:27 PM »
Which of these varieties is your favorite ?  Glenn,Alphonso, Carrie, Keit, Valencia Pride.
What is your description of the taste from your favorite.
Which of these varieties does best in Southern California?

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Do you have a picture of the plant tag? If it’s a Florida tree, I would expect it to have the variety tag on it. I know Home Depot sells Manilla trees but I haven’t been to Lowe’s in a long time so I have no idea.

Simon


Hi Simon,

     Unfortunately I did not take a picture of the tag.  Stupid me.  I did look at it but can’t remember.  This happened just before I joined the forum.
I went on line,  and it also just states plant code L7606 and has no variety listed. 
I was thinking of just buying it but now that I know terpentine rootstock done do well in Ca.  I’ll save my money. 
I’ll go back soon and take a picture of the tag.  If it’s not a Florida Mango rootstock,  I’ll purchase it.
@amberroses,  good looking out.  I will check for any labels on pot as well .

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By the way,  out of curiosity,  Lowe’s sells mangos listed as plant code: L7606.  Is this a Florida mango on terpentine rootstock?  It doesn’t give much info on where it’s from and the kind of mango it is.
Does anyone have any experience with this variety from Lowe’s.  If not a terpentine rootstock,  is it worth grafting onto it?

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Thank you Simon for this great thread.  As a newbie here,  I have been reading this thread a few times over specially since I have been wanting to try my luck at growing mangos here in California.
This thread also just saved me some money as I almost pulled the trigger on buying a few mangos from PlantOGram, which I’m sure are in turpentine rootstock.
The trees I was looking to purchase are Fruit punch, Lemon Zest, and Orange Essence.
Now that I read this,  I will try to find scions from someone here in California and graft to rootstocks that work out here on the west coast.
I’m also willing to experiment to help anyone out in anyway that i can for the benefit of everyone on this forum.... with instruction from the experts here that is.....lol

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Any rootstock that is healthy will be good. Graft on both.

All mangos were once Asian, haha, but I think you mean the fruit looked like a yellow Manila mango.

I think you should graft it just in case it turns out bad with lots of fiber. You can allow a little bit of growth from the rootstock later to evaluate that fruit.

I know this is probably a stupid question but I have to ask...lol
So if I take a scion from the Keitt mango and graft it to the Manila rootstock and then take a scion from the Kent mango and graft it to the Keitt rootstock,  and the Manila to the other Keitt rootstock,  will that work out? 
All the mango trees I have are growing from seed...

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