Author Topic: Identify this Cherimoya Type (Pics included) (Read 8612 times)

behlgarden · « **on:** March 22, 2012, 06:49:51 PM »

I have this awesome cherimoya tree (9-10 yrs old) mature tree and it produced fruits ranging from 0.5 lb to 2 lbs ea, with seeds between 22 to 30. Taste wise the fruit is fiberless, no sandy texture, very juicy white flesh that is very sweet and tart at the same time. Its hard to describe the flavours, when I put it in my mouth I cant resist, lol

Can anyone identify this variety of Cherimoya for me? Also I am going to prune it heavy this weekend, so if anyone wants any scion wood for grafting, please PM me.

Thanks

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I dont know how to post pictures. the link below says "Attachments and other options" does not have means for me to attach any pictues.

behlgarden · « **Reply #1 on:** March 22, 2012, 07:14:12 PM »

Finally images!

HMHausman · « **Reply #2 on:** March 22, 2012, 08:10:04 PM »

I have aboslutely no idea which one that it.....but it sure is an attractive looking fruit.

Harry

behlgarden · « **Reply #3 on:** March 23, 2012, 07:11:46 PM »

Anyone else? Any experts who can identify by leaf structure OR shape of fruit?

nullzero · « **Reply #4 on:** March 23, 2012, 07:23:38 PM »

Is it grafted....? Or seedling, if its a seedling it may as name it something.

behlgarden · « **Reply #5 on:** March 23, 2012, 07:45:51 PM »

I dont have information on anything as I bought this home and there it was a big 20 foot tall 8-10 yr old tree. The previous owner loved it so much that she wanted to take it with her, but then someone told her that tree might not make it, why kill it. I have 3 cherimoya's/Atemoyas, this one is the best fruit.

Guanabanus · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2012, 09:36:27 PM »

Name it 'Behl'!

nullzero · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2012, 10:18:34 PM »

Quote from: behlgarden on March 23, 2012, 07:45:51 PM

I dont have information on anything as I bought this home and there it was a big 20 foot tall 8-10 yr old tree. The previous owner loved it so much that she wanted to take it with her, but then someone told her that tree might not make it, why kill it. I have 3 cherimoya's/Atemoyas, this one is the best fruit.

If its worthy, you can pass budwood. If you have a good deal of cherimoya/atemoya tasting experience, then it should be worthy tree. Where is the tree located, Riverside county? Also if you can describe the yield, and take good upclose fruit pictures.

behlgarden · « **Reply #8 on:** March 24, 2012, 11:08:05 PM »

Well now the season is over but quality is amazing. I got three kinds and this one is top notch, I would really recommend anyone who wants to graft Cherimoya to graft this one. Its in Corona, CA

Let me know if anyone local want to come by and pick scions OR I can mail to them for postate.

nullzero · « **Reply #9 on:** March 24, 2012, 11:18:42 PM »

Quote from: behlgarden on March 24, 2012, 11:08:05 PM

Well now the season is over but quality is amazing. I got three kinds and this one is top notch, I would really recommend anyone who wants to graft Cherimoya to graft this one. Its in Corona, CA

Let me know if anyone local want to come by and pick scions OR I can mail to them for postate.

I would be interested in grafting some, just tell me what chosen name is? The fact that this Cherimoya does well in Corona, shows that it handles low humidity conditions.

behlgarden · « **Reply #10 on:** March 24, 2012, 11:39:49 PM »

Nullzero where are you located? We can name it whatever you want. You can imagine that Asian lady who took most her mature fruit trees almost cried when she left this behind as it was too big to pull out and she didnt want to kill it. I am talking about when she left this home under foreclosure.

nullzero · « **Reply #11 on:** March 24, 2012, 11:59:04 PM »

Quote from: behlgarden on March 24, 2012, 11:39:49 PM

Nullzero where are you located? We can name it whatever you want. You can imagine that Asian lady who took most her mature fruit trees almost cried when she left this behind as it was too big to pull out and she didnt want to kill it. I am talking about when she left this home under foreclosure.

Call it Corona Delight?

You should take some pictures of the full tree.

fruitlovers · « **Reply #12 on:** March 25, 2012, 05:55:46 AM »

What will happen if everyone that has a tree in their yard and doesn't know what it is gives it a new cultivar name. Sorry, but i think you should name it "IDontknow".
Oscar

Tim · « **Reply #13 on:** March 25, 2012, 11:39:53 AM »

Quote from: fruitlovers on March 25, 2012, 05:55:46 AM

What will happen if everyone that has a tree in their yard and doesn't know what it is gives it a new cultivar name. Sorry, but i think you should name it "IDontknow".
Oscar

1000% agreed

Jsvand5 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 25, 2012, 12:43:38 PM »

Quote from: fruitlovers on March 25, 2012, 05:55:46 AM

What will happen if everyone that has a tree in their yard and doesn't know what it is gives it a new cultivar name. Sorry, but i think you should name it "IDontknow".
Oscar

Agreed. Kind of like the "Sweetheart" Lychee situation. The tree he has may be a grafted tree that was bought from a nursery years ago.

nullzero · « **Reply #15 on:** March 25, 2012, 05:09:14 PM »

If its a grafted tree, I agree don't name it. However if its a seedling, its already has its own unique genetics.

Tim · « **Reply #16 on:** March 25, 2012, 07:00:41 PM »

Cherimoyas are as bountiful in CA as mangoes in FL. As in this case, I highly doubt it being a seedling tree, though possible. Without extensive DNA testing done to prove otherwise, please don't disrespect the breeder who may have spent years of research and hard work to produce something for us to enjoy by randomly renaming unknown trees.

nullzero · « **Reply #17 on:** March 25, 2012, 07:26:28 PM »

Quote from: Tim on March 25, 2012, 07:00:41 PM

Cherimoyas are as bountiful in CA as mangoes in FL. As in this case, I highly doubt it being a seedling tree, though possible. Without extensive DNA testing done to prove otherwise, please don't disrespect the breeder who may have spent years of research and hard work to produce something for us to enjoy by randomly renaming unknown trees.

I would say chances are its a seedling Cherimoya tree. The seeds sprout easily and grow rapidly. Most areas with Cherimoya trees are the Mexican American or Asian American neighborhoods. Most of the older fruit trees in these areas are started by seeds (guava, mango, papaya, cherimoya) or cuttings (nopales, bananas). Home depot and other major big box stores don't carry or have in stock regularly grafted Cherimoya.

I would look very closely for signs of a graft union. Then send the fruit around to Cherimoya experienced eaters, bring some to CRFG taste testings or meetings. See if it can get IDed. Just because the fruit has a smooth uniform shape and great taste does not automatically make it a grafted variety.

behlgarden · « **Reply #18 on:** March 25, 2012, 10:59:21 PM »

Here is the picture of the tree. I cant see any graft union here so I cant be sure about it. Anyway, its great tasting and worth grafting onto yours if you live in So Cal Area. I am ready to prune next sunday so anyone want any scions, this is your chance.

fruitlovers · « **Reply #19 on:** March 25, 2012, 11:46:23 PM »

Please take a closeup of just the trunk without the child.
Oscar

behlgarden · « **Reply #20 on:** March 30, 2012, 03:58:37 PM »

here is the close look at the tree stump you asked for.

Tim · « **Reply #21 on:** March 30, 2012, 04:10:37 PM »

Looks clean and free of graft line, or it may have been buried under the soil

but I doubt it.

fruitlovers · « **Reply #22 on:** March 30, 2012, 04:20:04 PM »

Don't see any obvious graft union, but it's possible it was just well healed over.
Oscar

behlgarden · « **Reply #23 on:** March 30, 2012, 04:27:53 PM »

is it typical for the lower trunk to show up like its on this picture? It appears that two root stocks got fused together. no?

fruitlovers · « **Reply #24 on:** March 30, 2012, 05:05:32 PM »

Quote from: behlgarden on March 30, 2012, 04:27:53 PM

is it typical for the lower trunk to show up like its on this picture? It appears that two root stocks got fused together. no?

Looks to me like it just branched out low. Usually on grafted trees this is not done, so this might be some evidence indicating it's a seedling. But it's not conclusive either way.
Oscar

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