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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: Coconut on July 17, 2014, 09:31:06 AM
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Its all start back in 1996 in search of a zero latex Jackfruit. I got tire of cleaning my knife & my gummy mouth & hands eating one of my favorite fruit. Back then I have raided PIN, Excalibur, Treehouse, several defunct nurseries & backyard Surinamese growers in west Palm beach looking for that elusive tree & I bought them all. Many were promised low latex but to me it was false advertisement, I still have to rinse my hand with olive oils before a soapy water rinse to get everything off. The freeze of several years back thank God kill hundred of my trees so they free lot of real estate for newer selections. I discovered Ebay back then & bought chempedak, Vietnamese baby jack, marang every artocarpus & kissing cousins for my cold resistant program of breeding Jackfruit with zero latex, small seeds, large carpel, 70% yield or better to rag & edible rag, easy peel skin like a chepadek, small fruit like the vietnamese baby jacfruit.
After many insults & encouragement by framily ( friend & family), passerby & fellow fruit fanatics who had the sorry benefit of tasting & growing my breeding selections, I harvested my first
designer jackfruit. If the second fruit replicate the first fruit; I will name it Boca orange snob fot eluding me all these years! ;D
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Very large orange yellow carpel, me & my friend ate the sweet crispy delicious rags about three lbs before we got full & visit our porcelain friend.
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Absolutely a joy to rip apart with my hands, my wife gave me a Dirty look; she like a man with a slow hand!
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My failures in breeding; dam fruit scale in at 28lbs, I was hoping 5-10 lbs (its parent were Vietnamese baby seedling x Pakistan seedling x searle's brothers seedling. It parent is a 10-15 compact tree in my front door entrance. The ripe skin did not peel nicely like vietnamese baby jack, i had to massage my hands gently to free them; wife was impressed! It had a very strong linging odor that the kids from church school complaining. But the kids got no problem stuffing their face with crunchy sweet goodness; at first they thought it was my usual fart. Rag & rind attract coons, rats, fruitflies & Jewish Grannies complains out walking pamper pooch predawn in my hood before waste management pickup garbage today. We harvest over powering fruit when we smell it ripening yesterday. It was planted as a seedling in december 2009.
My success No Latex, just rinse hand with water to take the sugary syrupy off. After hand dry that juicy fruit gum smell prevail last almost a day. Tree is small & compact to bearing, flower last year but didnot set fruit like this year. Survive 2010 freeze with no dieback as a seedling when my other grafted tree frooze dieback to the ground. I have ten of these trees in west palm so I will hope the other seedlings will display some uniqueness this one did not( however this one was the fastest to flower in three years from seed). The seeds are small compare to the edible carpel. Yield was almost 75% of edible matter.
I will kill some of its parents this weekend unless I am out snakehead fishing, so I can have room to plants it offsprings & see if I can stabilize it over the next decade, hopefully getting my freeze resistant, 5-10 lbs round fruit, zero latex, low odor, thin rind easy to peel with bear hand, edible rags that is not so laxative. More tart into it cause right now its french pastry sweet! ;D
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Very, very, very nice Jack!
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Awesome sauce! A crunchy jack will little/no latex! Me want one!
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Maikai nui loa
You do very good works.
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Very nice color. Huge carpals. Amazing flesh to seed ratio. Great job!
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Can anyone point to a more creative writer on the forum than Coconut? His writing skills are only second to his breeding skills. This is a phenomenal outcome to over a decade of effort. Congratulations man. The combination of precociousness, color, latex free, taste and edible ratio is one helluv an accomplishment. May your work be cast widely amongst the jackfruit lovers of the world and held in the esteem it deserves for millenia.
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Any budwood or seeds available?
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Coconut,
Great job so far, it sounds like the finished selection is going to be tasty and amazing. This post reminds me I need to plant some seedling jackfruit sometime in the future. The edible seeds and vegetable use of the young fruit, make it a great versatility fruit tree.
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Looks great!
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That looks like an awesome jack! Would have loved to try it.
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The color too - here in Uganda most varieties are whitish in pulp color.
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It's very nice! Congratulations! Can you sell some seeds? ;D
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This one looks awesome, very thick flesh, great color, easy peel, fruits from a small tree...wished i could taste it. Jacks can be a really great fruit, even to sweet sometimes.
If you lost hundreds of jackfruit tree's then how many do you have? thousands?
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That is quite a beauty!
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Wow looks and sounds tastey but why try to get low odor, I love the smell. Congrats, can't wait for the siblings to start showing themselves.
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That looks like an awesome jack! Would have loved to try it.
Well at least you saw the tree & fruit across the street. The Rabbi was so happy I think he will Kosher the tree for me. The second fruit I let you know. The Rabbi said it was the best Jack he ever had better than its parents. So now I get to plant anything to my heart content at the Rabbi house! I am going to Have HOA cut down that 50 feet podocarpus, oh maybe not I have just planted Berto's one lb size passionfruit & landolphia under it to strangle it. Sunday Morning I see I nail you a few snakehead for the smoker. My Jewish Neighbor love them cold-smoke said snakehead white flesh LOX taste like white sturgeon LOX. Oh yes this Jackfruit go well with smoke Lox & My sugar apple moonshine.
Next week I have The Boca Giant Chewy Ready to eat, some are a lb now other are getting to 2 lbs, shot a squirrel today who ate one intent for wife, she piss it stole the three lbs chewy ready this morning. Oh well I am busy collecting the seeds in swimming pool to send to nathalie in Papua guinea.
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Very, very, very nice Jack!
That is the fact Jack; hey what happen to the smooth skin surinam cherry you were going to sell to me? Did some one HiJack my seeds Jack? ::)
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Awesome sauce! A crunchy jack will little/no latex! Me want one!
Dont insult my intelligent like Dorgon & his cronies! Its a no latex jack not a little/no latex! >:( :( :-[ :-X ::) ;)
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Maikai nui loa
You do very good works.
Thanks Micah, you want to test run my coconut offering to that land of volcanoes & see if the God Pelee will accept the Sacrifice? You have any Baccuarea Macrophylla growing? I have a six feet tall tree outside that survive freeze 2010 but I need seedling that is male & female to pollinate my cold strain, otherwise its going to be samurai? :-[ :'(
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Can anyone point to a more creative writer on the forum than Coconut? His writing skills are only second to his breeding skills. This is a phenomenal outcome to over a decade of effort. Congratulations man. The combination of precociousness, color, latex free, taste and edible ratio is one helluv an accomplishment. May your work be cast widely amongst the jackfruit lovers of the world and held in the esteem it deserves for millenia.
Did you germinate A. Squamosa big eyes yet? I have two hundred & seven seedlings out of 210 seeds after three weeks, they might loose viability fast. Yes I promised those poor South African Jackfruit fanatics good seedlings, I will send them tomorrow so it does not loose its Viability & sprout so Marcel & stuart can pot them! Great to see you bringing those Mango destitute Bermudian some relief from the Fruitless bermuda Triangle! ;DThat looks like an awesome jack! Would have loved to try it.
Well at least you saw the tree & fruit across the street. The Rabbi was so happy I think he will Kosher the tree for me. The second fruit I let you know. The Rabbi said it was the best Jack he ever had better than its parents. So now I get to plant anything to my heart content at the Rabbi house! I am going to Have HOA cut down that 50 feet podocarpus, oh maybe not I have just planted Berto's one lb size passionfruit & Mourad's landolphia under it to strangle it. Sunday Morning I see I nail you a few snakehead for the smoker. My Jewish Neighbor love them cold-smoke said snakehead white flesh LOX taste like white sturgeon LOX. Oh yes this Jackfruit go well with smoke Lox & My sugar apple moonshine.
Next week I have The Boca Giant Chewy Ready to eat, some are a lb now other are getting to 2 lbs, shot a squirrel today who ate one intent for wife, she piss it stole the three lbs chewy ready this morning. Oh well I am busy collecting the seeds in swimming pool to send to nathalie in Papua guinea.
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Coconut, that was an impressive jackfruit and only from a three year old tree :oI'm sure your neighbors going to let you plant whatever you want on his yard now. Let me now if you have any extra boca giant chewy sugar apples next week I'd love try them.
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Any budwood or seeds available?
Still fruiting & I have a very limit amount of seeds for my 20 acres field trial in Miami Garden. I dont want to put you to sleep by encouraging you to grow my garbage that has not been stabilized since this 16 years quest is still incomplete! Lets wait to see results with other 10 seedlings before I have people propagate this backyard hobbyist breeder works in Florida, I am not a nursery; I am not fling shit to stink up the gene pool! Seeds are only available to development workers & folks that have trade generously with me overseas because they are so limit to good graft varieties than us here in Florida. Be patient, I am sure I will try my very best to appease you fruit collecting disease and I am not use to having fruit stalkers; only paparazzi! ;D
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Coconut,
Great job so far, it sounds like the finished selection is going to be tasty and amazing. This post reminds me I need to plant some seedling jackfruit sometime in the future. The edible seeds and vegetable use of the young fruit, make it a great versatility fruit tree.
Stephen the paparazzi you brought last time inhibit your time to see this seedling tree. Hopefully in october the second fruit ripe. Yes I try to breed & select Jackfruits so I have them fruiting & ripening fruit year round even in our winter here with multiple selection. The Pakistani marble seeds jackfruit might be ready by than! I was tempted to pick green fruits to make a Pinoy chicken salad with green jack but wife told me not to eat my 16 years work yet. I told her now she need to design a bigger Android skeleton watch for me because as you can see, the carpel is bigger than my tungsten watch with fading orange face. :)
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Very nice color. Huge carpals. Amazing flesh to seed ratio. Great job!
Thank you, patience, time & luck you can create something to leave to the next generation!
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Looks great!
Thank you john, I will work next on a red flesh. Not a fan of Borneo Red had a grafted tree that produce in consistent fruit! i create my own by that time around nursing home! Still waiting for my friend Richard at Excalibur to release the Excalibur Red. Hope Richard home from his recent stint in the Hospital & be able to do Vietnam trip to collect a Vietnamese red for us all! :D
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Wow its fitting that you share a name that fruit looks amazing!!!
You inspire me that even a hobby fruit grower can with enough time and hard work achieve amazing things:)
Seems you may become abit of a fruit celebrity
Hopefully I can emulate you and one day start on the road to a better monkey orange.
The seeds you sent me are already popping out roots! very excited for your Boca Chewy:D
Those S.pungens have they arrived at you yet?
Seems slow even for S.A post so I hope I packed it right! Iv got more if need to resend.
The A.Senegalensis and S.spinosa is sent so should reach you soon.
How did you learn this art of breeding a better fruit tree. I would love to learn how beyond the bare basics. Is it even possible for someone with no botanical degree just enthusiasm, time and space:)
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The color too - here in Uganda most varieties are whitish in pulp color.
Soren I can send you some in trade for the ecotype A.Senegalensis for my breeding program? Yes in Florida nursery like Excalibur, PIN & International backyard growers have managed to bring in every rainbow spectrum from vanilla to brick red! I heard of the purple one from Northern Burma from Ruby traders( wife is a watch manufacturers so The traders get obscure stuff from the wild west frontier for me as a favor to the wife). ;D
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It's very nice! Congratulations! Can you sell some seeds? ;D
Sure for a zone pusher of outstanding reputation like yourself, my recalcitrant seed banks will make an exception! ;D
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That is quite a beauty!
Thank Bob, Trec A. Montana you send to me is slower to germinate than my sex life in my old age. Perhaps we can trade for my plant next time you down in this next of the wood with a live trec montana for my superior montana breeding program! Hurry I just got an AARP card! I want to die & be known as that Old fart that brought us better tasting A. glabra than top tropical & better A. montana for the Nordic country! :D
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Very, very, very nice Jack!
That is the fact Jack; hey what happen to the smooth skin surinam cherry you were going to sell to me? Did some one HiJack my seeds Jack? ::)
I sent you a pm.
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Wow looks and sounds tastey but why try to get low odor, I love the smell. Congrats, can't wait for the siblings to start showing themselves.
I live in a gated Jewish Neighborhood in Boca Raton, home to the world largest population of Lawyers, trust fund babies and snobs that don't steal fruits as much as living in an appalachian redneck neighborhood among my own kind, we can have cows grazing the front yard. Jackfruit smell can attract unwanted Nazi HOA letters in Boca Raton were the President of United States come to Beg!! I breed jackfruit that have no odor so I can continue living in my self imposed prison of three Decades; a black sheep hiding among a flock of golden fleece sheep! ;D
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Can anyone point to a more creative writer on the forum than Coconut? His writing skills are only second to his breeding skills. This is a phenomenal outcome to over a decade of effort. Congratulations man. The combination of precociousness, color, latex free, taste and edible ratio is one helluv an accomplishment. May your work be cast widely amongst the jackfruit lovers of the world and held in the esteem it deserves for millenia.
Did you germinate A. Squamosa big eyes yet? I have two hundred & seven seedlings out of 210 seeds after three weeks, they might loose viability fast. Yes I promised those poor South African Jackfruit fanatics good seedlings, I will send them tomorrow so it does not loose its Viability & sprout so Marcel & stuart can pot them! Great to see you bringing those Mango destitute Bermudian some relief from the Fruitless bermuda Triangle! ;DThat looks like an awesome jack! Would have loved to try it.
Well at least you saw the tree & fruit across the street. The Rabbi was so happy I think he will Kosher the tree for me. The second fruit I let you know. The Rabbi said it was the best Jack he ever had better than its parents. So now I get to plant anything to my heart content at the Rabbi house! I am going to Have HOA cut down that 50 feet podocarpus, oh maybe not I have just planted Berto's one lb size passionfruit & Mourad's landolphia under it to strangle it. Sunday Morning I see I nail you a few snakehead for the smoker. My Jewish Neighbor love them cold-smoke said snakehead white flesh LOX taste like white sturgeon LOX. Oh yes this Jackfruit go well with smoke Lox & My sugar apple moonshine.
Next week I have The Boca Giant Chewy Ready to eat, some are a lb now other are getting to 2 lbs, shot a squirrel today who ate one intent for wife, she piss it stole the three lbs chewy ready this morning. Oh well I am busy collecting the seeds in swimming pool to send to nathalie in Papua guinea.
Not yet. I had to travel and want to be there to ensure proper care. 1 month in the US. Aug 12 they will be planted...
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Congratulations on your no latex Jackfruit Coconut, sounds and looks amazing keep it up you just might change the plant world before you go! ;) 8)
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Wow its fitting that you share a name that fruit looks amazing!!!
You inspire me that even a hobby fruit grower can with enough time and hard work achieve amazing things:)
Seems you may become abit of a fruit celebrity
Hopefully I can emulate you and one day start on the road to a better monkey orange.
The seeds you sent me are already popping out roots! very excited for your Boca Chewy:D
Those S.pungens have they arrived at you yet?
Seems slow even for S.A post so I hope I packed it right! Iv got more if need to resend.
The A.Senegalensis and S.spinosa is sent so should reach you soon.
How did you learn this art of breeding a better fruit tree. I would love to learn how beyond the bare basics. Is it even possible for someone with no botanical degree just enthusiasm, time and space:)
i have received your package today, soaking the seed now. How is the Big Eyes annona doing, did it rooted in transit? pm your address again so I can send you the cold strain Boca orange snob no latex jackfruit, you & Marcell in Pretoria can develops your own S. african variety of jAckfruit.
My degrees are in Economic/Accounting& Botany. My Botany degree was corn & soybean craps that useless for me except I can speak pig Latin in Minnesota. They did not give me any advantage in combat, the fact knowing to much book smart did not give this old fart a lot of gas to past on. Ignorance is bliss. Its my Martial art & Military background that gave me the edge. Kill everything that is not useful, do not fall in love with each creation. Dont listen to other, trust yourself, believe in yourself. When you fail, give up run & retreat, regroup start over. Snip every knowledge you can get but do not let your enemies know your strenght; show them your weakness. When I breed I hunt down unknown entity rather than known entity that everyone already have. Observe how each tree face adverse by dunking the plant in water for a week & watch how many died, survivor put them in a drought phase and see how many died, survivor put them in a walking freezer at your gas station or a friend who own a grocery & see how many died in 15 minutes, from that you now have seedlings to plant out for field trial. Breeding is like equity trading, a random walk with certain parameters you escort it toward a common objective, you dont always get it perfect but what is the end result is better than before; this than become the foundation of your breeding discipline.
Since breeding is a stochastic walk, you dont need to come up with complex flo chart to cross a with b and c with d. I just select whatever meet my ying yang philosophy; KISS keep it simple stupid is the golden law I follow through war & peace. There are no correct path to achieving one objective, but the fluid motion of doing something rather than nothing will lead you down the wrong path.
Ok I am not going to pretend to spin yarn of wisdom to fog your mind, just Do not trust any expert blindly including this old farts, always have the curiosity to ask a stupid & open to learn new thing, mistake made, accept it & move on. I have 99% failure & only 1% success, to achieve more than the average you just need to trial more than the average every time and at all time to hit the lottery! If you can pollinate ;D you are already a breeder. Hey its Viagra night, wife is calling of the wild, I can not ignore the breeding siren!
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Congratulations on your no latex Jackfruit Coconut, sounds and looks amazing keep it up you just might change the plant world before you go! ;) 8)
Thank you. Yes I plan on using all the failed Jackfruit trees from my breeding as lumber for building my coffin when the time expired for me. My headstone would read, he save world hunger with a Whitman Fiberless tasting A. Glabra Pond Apple & A. Montana Mountain soursop. ;D
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Congratulations Coconut. Big effort but the result counts. It is a dream of each "proper" tropical fruit home grower to have this one to his collection! Your seeds are a hit. Can you send some fresh bulbs with the seeds inside? ;)
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Congrates Sure hard work pays. I am impressed and thanks for sharing pictures of the jack fruit
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Congratulations Coconut. Big effort but the result counts. It is a dream of each "proper" tropical fruit home grower to have this one to his collection! Your seeds are a hit. Can you send some fresh bulbs with the seeds inside? ;)
Sorry the church school children ate them all, bulb aka carpel. Never send jackfruit in its carpal or it will quickly sprout & carpel fermentation will kill it by arrival.
I understand your plight, I have already donate the first fruit seeds batch to a church 20 acres field trial plot; that promise was made a year ago for its parents for fruits they have tasted & love a year ago, I am killing the parents so now the offsprings seed are in high limited supply for my stabilization breeding over the next decade. Some long time members who trade with me have bankrupt my recalcitrant vault.
I have another fruit still on tree not ripe yet and the lawyers in my hood have circle like vultures putting a lien on it and today I was served court papers by the local Union; the United Rodent 166 of Boca Point for shanghai their fruit to a Miami Church rather than keeping it local at a synagogue; these Jewish Bushy Terrorists are funded by PETA! Check back with me in a month when litigation settle pertaining to this grave transgression on dispute fruit. I am not a nursery, just a back yard obtuse Sith Breeder of obscured fruits not sexy enough for prime time! ;D
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Congrates Sure hard work pays. I am impressed and thanks for sharing pictures of the jack fruit
mourad
Thank you Mourad, I am sending the seeds to Africa so they can further stabilize & develop for their climate. Too bad I cant send you some to Canada, but I have some new pakistani derive jack that might do well in your East Africa estate! ;D
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Patience and diligent selection can pay off! Congratulations Coconut!!
Sorry to be the cynical type. But what happens if you pick one of those jacks before they are dead ripe, with wafting smell? Are they still totally latex free?
My own theory is that amount of latex in the fruit is proportional to the amount of time you let it ripen.
Latex in the tree is a protective device, assuring fast healing to any part of the tree that is injured or cut. Is your tree is completely latex free when any part of it is cut? If so would this also mean it is more likely to get fungal and other diseases when it is pruned?
Advantage of total latex free would be in grafting as rapid flow of latex is a big obstacle to succesful grafting.
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Awesome success, and writing. Inspiring.
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Coconut, sure glad you are out there doing your great jackfruit... work, all the best of success & thanks for what you do.
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Ron came over last Friday from work hoping to possibly taste the Boca Orange Snob No Latex but the fruit still green teasing us for a bite. Seeds from first fruit sprouted after I stuck it in my refrigerate & crank it down to 34 degree for a cold treatment of a week. Some of you who were fortunately enough to receive my Seeds; please let me know how they sprout & duration. I have discovered in past by almost freezing the seeds prior to germination each breeding cycle, most seeds perish, the one sprouted will carry on the cold resistant traits that is why I gave you extra. It look like this generation will be an almost 95% germination, the other 5% some rodent dug the seed out & partially ate a few seed.
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All is not lost in this fruit-escapade, I came home an hour early in the day out in Parkland checking on Searle Brother's seedling jackfruit & discover a fruit that finally scented compare to the previous day, Thursday. Here is a 35lbs Searle Brother's low latex jack that is one of the threesome swinger parents of Boca Orange Snob;
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Its a delicious yellow white and I love its intense flavor of pine apple note & awesome intense juicy fruit odor, only latex was from the core & it was a low latex I am happy to massage with my gluttonous hands and stuffy my face with sticky goodness. Ron he was kind of in heaven, it was his first low latex jackfruit.
While he was in backyard I shown him the Pakistani seedling; a round fruit that have marble seeds and also one of the Third Parents of Boca Orange Snob no latex jackfruit.
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Unfortunately the Pakistani seedlings were not ripe for our perennial tasters to sample the Menage a trois goodness. The cold resistant dwarf vietnamese baby decide to abort its fruit this year, so we wont be able to see its thin skin low latex character; I am sure many if you have the baby Vietnamese jack popularize by Richard at Eccalibur Nursery in Boynton Beach.
I look forward to a review by Ron for the Searle brother's Seedling.
As a side note Searle's Brothers nursery in sw ranch have their bi annual sale for rare palm collectors, the free grill hamburger just entice you to drop a few hundred there. Like Broward 208 sale you never know what unique fine you drag out of there. :)
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Another large tasty fruit breed by Coconut. Congrats on the fruit harvest, hopefully I will the chance to taste a fruit sometime in the future. I have no Jackfruit tree yet, the photos and descriptions make me want to plant a Boca Orange Snob Jackfruit.
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So I have tried several different varieties of jackfruit over the years from various seedlings to Sleepdoc's Bangkok lemon and Harry's BG X T jack. This particular jack had very little latex compared to what I have seen. I won't say it was latex free but it was a breeze to clean with only a minimal amount of oil on my knife. I cleaned my portion of the fruit (half) in about 10 minutes with the carpels tearing away very easily from the jack and I did it all on my kitchen counter which is a first for me. I always clean them in the back yard. The yellow flesh was firm and crunchy with a sweet refreshing taste very similar tasting of Bangkok Lemon from what I can remember. The fruit had lots of juice which was something I had only noticed once before while cleaning a jack. The juice was like drinking liquid juicy fruit. This particular variety ranks up there with the best jacks I have had in the past. I can't wait to try the Boca Orange Snob Hard to imagine it being much better than this one and if it is I'm definitely getting the chainsaw out and making room for it.
On a side note Coconut gave me some fresh palm heart today to try. My only experience eating palm hearts was years ago from a can and I really didn't care for it. This was a different experience it tasted like coconut meat to me similar in sweetness taste and texture. Now I just need to find some recipes to experiment with it. If anyone has some suggestions please let me know.
Ron
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I received a package of boca snob no latex jackfruit seeds yesterday. I was sent about 17 seeds by the generous breeder of this awesome looking jackfruit!
My snail mail country made them take about a month to get to me but they were packed well and maybe 3 or 4 felt alittle soft.
Most however were firm and swelling with the skin split already a good sign!
Here are some pics of the seeds(ruler is in centimetres)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/6ptmbm5lp/DSC_0460.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/6ptmbm5lp/)
(http://s2.postimg.cc/t24vq0qud/DSC_0461.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/t24vq0qud/)
I'm very excited to have the opportunity to grow this and will keep posting pics as they develop.
Jack I would love to see a pic of the tree and leaves if you can.
Iv noticed Jackfruit has crazy variation in leaves. There's one large and old tree growing in a garden centre in my province with very small thick oval leaves they just leave the smallish soccerball size fruits to mummify on the tree so either it's rubbish or no one there likes it! In comparison young thai sourced seedlings I have leaves are massive and have more pointed tips.
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Finally the second fruit have a slight smell today. You are in luck Stuart, 10 minutes ago I went out to check the second Boca Orange Snob No latex jack after reading your request for foto of the tree and to my amazement the tree is busy flushing news flowers; male & female infloresenses beside harvesting the second fruit. Here is the Boca Orange Snob No Latex grown in between Boca Giant Dwarf Samoan & Dwarf Spicata Coconuts. The tree is heavily shade tight among Giant dwarf coconut;
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Here is seedling sprouts from the first fruit look like four strong candidates, the rest will be kill for not germinating & growing fast enough after two week of cold stratification in frigerature at 33-34 degree F.
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And here is the second fruit, its smaller about 9.3 lbs and I think because half the fruit did not get full pollination;
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Here is knife cut into it;
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Here is knife, no latex;
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Here is bare hand separating some love, the rags were not as sweet in this not fully pollinate fruit as the first. The quality is crunchy sweet a hint of fruit punch. Does not have that pineapple note that one of its parent the Searle's Brother Seedling. But it is good enough that I chainsaw down one of its parents to make room for the Boca Snob offsprings.
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I am glad it is flowering again for this year & hopefully more fruits by December. I am dreaming it will be an Ever bearing variety for my area so I can destroy my 200 jackfruit seedlings collection so I can concentrate on willughbeia & landolphia. I am glad Stuart you are accepting the passing of my Olympic torch as the next Sith Breeder; so now I can die in peace (my wife & I are planning on selling everything, travel the world and raise hell, than our last stop; After we spent all our money nearly flat broke; we get Euthanize in Holland, cremate & our ashes among the Tulip field that we love--not a dime to Uncle Sam. ;D
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When you start selling everything off I want to buy some seeds. ;D
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Better to have your ashes spread around some tropical fruit trees.
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I received a package of boca snob no latex jackfruit seeds yesterday. I was sent about 17 seeds by the generous breeder of this awesome looking jackfruit!
My snail mail country made them take about a month to get to me but they were packed well and maybe 3 or 4 felt alittle soft.
Most however were firm and swelling with the skin split already a good sign!
Here are some pics of the seeds(ruler is in centimetres)
I'm very excited to have the opportunity to grow this and will keep posting pics as they develop.
Jack I would love to see a pic of the tree and leaves if you can.
Iv noticed Jackfruit has crazy variation in leaves. There's one large and old tree growing in a garden centre in my province with very small thick oval leaves they just leave the smallish soccerball size fruits to mummify on the tree so either it's rubbish or no one there likes it! In comparison young thai sourced seedlings I have leaves are massive and have more pointed tips.
What medium were the seeds packaged in?
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I received a package of boca snob no latex jackfruit seeds yesterday. I was sent about 17 seeds by the generous breeder of this awesome looking jackfruit!
My snail mail country made them take about a month to get to me but they were packed well and maybe 3 or 4 felt alittle soft.
Most however were firm and swelling with the skin split already a good sign!
Here are some pics of the seeds(ruler is in centimetres)
(http://s22.postimg.cc/6ptmbm5lp/DSC_0460.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/6ptmbm5lp/)
(http://s2.postimg.cc/t24vq0qud/DSC_0461.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/t24vq0qud/)
I'm very excited to have the opportunity to grow this and will keep posting pics as they develop.
Jack I would love to see a pic of the tree and leaves if you can.
Iv noticed Jackfruit has crazy variation in leaves. There's one large and old tree growing in a garden centre in my province with very small thick oval leaves they just leave the smallish soccerball size fruits to mummify on the tree so either it's rubbish or no one there likes it! In comparison young thai sourced seedlings I have leaves are massive and have more pointed tips.
The old garden centre jack variety I see remind me of those mummified variety in the Gambia grown as forage to fatten the cattle & shade for them from the equatorial sun. It is only edible cook green, or roasting edible seeds. Ripe fruit would drop down & wine smell draw cattle; it full of latex oozing out & scare baboon far and wide. Local fisherman used it over abundant saps from fruit & bark to plug holes in their wooden dugout. Sap make excellent sticky glue for mice when I was in the bush in Ebola countries, mice was raiding our c-ration goodies & bite into our medical supplies, absolute torture watching them strangle in the glop of this wild jackfruit.
Yes I have notice that the sweet good crunchy variety tend to have very large leaves, trees are more compact as compare to those monstrosity with more than generous latex sap and fruit pulp soft gagging you to death. I think F&S Park in Homestead have a couple of these tree, massive trunk. I guess they are more worth as lumber and the wood is yellowish. The parent of boca orange snop I cut down, I will be curing it to make saya & to repair my Samurai Armour box for my 35 year old fully functional armour. The wood preserve my kantana better than the old japanese magnolia. Wood is quite strong & I often give to my Kendo Students so they can make a nice bokken. When you punch or kick the tree it give so excellent for toughening bone & sinew which lead to fewer injuries during combat practice. Horrible wood for gun stock since it lightness tend not to absorb shock as well as Hickory or oak. ;)
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hey those pics are great!
I never seen one with no latex!!!
thanks for posting!!!!
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Seadation just brought by a piece of Coconuts Boca Orange Snob Jakfruit, and the Boca Chewy Sugar Apple. Thank you Coconut !!
This is perhaps the lowest latex crunchy Jack I have personally encountered. The texture and color were both superb, as well as the flavor. This is one amazing Jack. I could seriously eat myself into a stupor if I had enough of this fruit available. Thanks again
PS - that Boca Sugar Apple - Seriously ? How is it possible for a sugar apple to be that incredibly delicious !
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Sleepdoc and I got so into the flavor, texture, color, and taste of the Boca orange snob we forgot to take pictures. It was definitely the best jackfruit I have ever had. We dug into it bare handed no oil and at the end I remember talking about how my hands were a little sticky but clearly any other jack and our hands would have been a total mess. Clearly minimal to zero latex on this fruit totally unbelievable. So when I left home I didn't even wash my hands and drove down 30 min to Miami. When I got home my hands were as soft as a baby's but no latex to be found on my hands or the steering wheel of my car. The carpels are large firm and very thick and meaty with a great flavor. Went straight up to the top of my must have trees period.
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Nice glowing reviews of Coconut's seed breeding efforts. Big congrats to Coconut for putting in the time and effort to make these fruit breeding creations, and sharing them with this community and others.
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Seadation just brought by a piece of Coconuts Boca Orange Snob Jakfruit, and the Boca Chewy Sugar Apple. Thank you Coconut !!
This is perhaps the lowest latex crunchy Jack I have personally encountered. The texture and color were both superb, as well as the flavor. This is one amazing Jack. I could seriously eat myself into a stupor if I had enough of this fruit available. Thanks again
PS - that Boca Sugar Apple - Seriously ? How is it possible for a sugar apple to be that incredibly delicious !
Boca orange snob no latex trials have came in with every fruit pollinated showing the character of the first fruit on Boca Point Boca Orange snob feature in this post. One tree in royal palm produce a fruit that was dud, no pollination no seed fill empty space; this happen when to many fruits; after opening it green, there were latex but very low & the latex break down quickly without etching my 800 year old kantana unlike its low latex menage a trois parents. Now I will only concentrate on non laxative edible rag, size & smell. I bred the smell marker where it ripe when crispy green so it get to market actually crispy crunchy to give that fruit a greater commercial & homeowner shelf life without giving people gas even at overipe like Bangkok Lemon Seedling that sleepdoc was so kind to rush it to me. Frankly from past tasting of 250 plus jackfruits tree at my grove, I have learn once seeds sprout inside, flavor gone. So Bangkok lemon sleepdoc will be given a chance to redeem itself, not sitting at a surgical ward all day before it arrive at my place for a post mortem Autopsy.
Boca Pointe Boca Orange snob is the only tree that has fruit the fastest and it is setting a second flowering for this year. Two flowering in a year, i hope this is not a fluke being an unusual warm 2014. Thank again for taking the time to be a taster; can only strenghten & encourage me; dont worry the plant will be made available. ;D 8)
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Finally the second fruit have a slight smell today. You are in luck Stuart, 10 minutes ago I went out to check the second Boca Orange Snob No latex jack after reading your request for foto of the tree and to my amazement the tree is busy flushing news flowers; male & female infloresenses beside harvesting the second fruit. Here is the Boca Orange Snob No Latex grown in between Boca Giant Dwarf Samoan & Dwarf Spicata Coconuts. The tree is heavily shade tight among Giant dwarf coconut;
(http://s12.postimg.cc/xahpqqk09/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/xahpqqk09/)
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Here is seedling sprouts from the first fruit look like four strong candidates, the rest will be kill for not germinating & growing fast enough after two week of cold stratification in frigerature at 33-34 degree F.
(http://s18.postimg.cc/cbrh91ith/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/cbrh91ith/)
And here is the second fruit, its smaller about 9.3 lbs and I think because half the fruit did not get full pollination;
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Here is knife cut into it;
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Here is knife, no latex;
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Here is bare hand separating some love, the rags were not as sweet in this not fully pollinate fruit as the first. The quality is crunchy sweet a hint of fruit punch. Does not have that pineapple note that one of its parent the Searle's Brother Seedling. But it is good enough that I chainsaw down one of its parents to make room for the Boca Snob offsprings.
(http://s28.postimg.cc/4c1vzl8mh/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/4c1vzl8mh/)
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I am glad it is flowering again for this year & hopefully more fruits by December. I am dreaming it will be an Ever bearing variety for my area so I can destroy my 200 jackfruit seedlings collection so I can concentrate on willughbeia & landolphia. I am glad Stuart you are accepting the passing of my Olympic torch as the next Sith Breeder; so now I can die in peace (my wife & I are planning on selling everything, travel the world and raise hell, than our last stop; After we spent all our money nearly flat broke; we get Euthanize in Holland, cremate & our ashes among the Tulip field that we love--not a dime to Uncle Sam. ;D
Thanks for the pics. That tree is beautiful and very healthy it's not minding the shade at all. The fruit makes me very impatient to try it!
Your creations are set to take the word by storm, i know South Africans will flip when they get to taste it. Many here don't even know what a jackfruit is but low latex cruchy and beautiful orange should be more tastey to the western pallet maybe make jackfruit well known here. I dream South Africans can get to know that there is more to life than apples, mango, Litchi and bananas
I hope you don't plan your trip too soon! The fruit world will be a much poorer place when you do give it up:(
That garden centre jacks did have a massive trunk like you said very thick growing well in full highveld sun(some of the most strong intense summer sun you can get!)treated like neglected landscape tree. It's the only jackfruit I have seen in South Africa except some fruit rarely found in durban if you are lucky and I think genetics here are very old soft jack. I can one day show them how an excellent one Taste hopefully:)
Awesome full armour set it reminds me of the Japanese anime and manga I love to watch and read.
Do you ever use your katana for precision pruning ;)
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My seedlings are growing very fast! How many years they should take to fruit? Thank's! ;)
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Luis it was bred to flower and fruit in three years provided you give it spacing of 15-20 feet from the nearest tree full sun on good alluvial soil with high organic. My tree were grown pack tight five feet spacing as sardine. Hey its hard to fit 250 jackfruit seedling trees on ten acres with 100 coconut trees & odd and end of my breeding experiment gone wild. My seedlings are at two feet so I got to get my lazy ass out to repot them. The Taitung Annona Mafias groups are growing Luc's Mangosteen And this boca snob jack. They said their is at three to four feet using deep proprietor aerator pot. I think they just manufacturer it from one of their conglomerate holding facility cause it look like a hybrid of what Excalibur used and the aerator mess pot style. I have both style and use it to speed up Luc'Mangosteen. The Taitung use an aerator pot that is four feet deep and 18 inch in diameter, damm it look like an plastic eelpot trap now I think about it...got get my ass up to Okechobee to get the fall eel run.
Anyway make sure they do not sit in high water table, year round irrigation & plenty of organic make them Flower year round so far in 2014; unusual long hot year which have advance a lot of my fruit two to three months early. Did you get a 100% germination? I recall the tree from seeds to one year were around ten feet so dont climb the tree! Year two it will be at 20 feet and year three it be 25-30 and the diameter trunk is around 7 inch so you can safely climb it! ;D. Now this is South Florida with its blessed year round growing season so your area might vary. I will later send a sample of it to the forestry agency to calibrate the wood quality. My tree are breed to grow tight and tall, the money here beside the fruit on contract to The New York Fruit Mafias are the yellow lumber for making fine furniture. Wood is quite light and strong, maybe I can get Porsche to make a jack fruit lumber interior, prettier than the boring black cow leather in my wife Macan S twin turbo 400! My friend Bentley has some nice tropical fossilize wood they call from Australia look very similar to Jack. Remember I have grown and fruit Thai jackfruit from seeds in 18 months, fruit taste awful and weight of fruit break the tree. Three years are not so unreasonable for a taste of Eden! Keep us posted on your progress; I have forgotten to send you the bill! ;D
Stuart yes I used my Kantana for trimming to keep myself accurate so I dont injury my kendo students.. My students love to practice their sword strokes on green jackfruits, mucus latex slow down their ability to cut the fruit in half if they are not concentrating on cutting angles & control breathing, and no need of gasoline trimer to pollute the air. Katana is a deadly weapon so be carefull if you want to be a Samurai Jack in your Jackfruit Orchard! ;D
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Coconut can I reserve some seeds of the next season? ;)
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Coconut can I reserve some seeds of the next season? ;)
Yeah check back later this winter, I might post the next batch of fruits from the second flowering on some of the ten trees under arm guards. ;D
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Thank you so much for your reply! I think i have to plant her in a not so sunny place to protect her from cold and wind. She will not stand -3C with wind... better to protect her in the midle of my corktrees! ;D
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Thank you so much for your reply! I think i have to plant her in a not so sunny place to protect her from cold and wind. She will not stand -3C with wind... better to protect her in the midle of my corktrees! ;D
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Luis dont sweat about it in shade, you wont get 400 fruits from it in the shade but three to four 25-30 lbs of no latex crunchy orange heaven is quite a bragging right. All my plant I bred them in a shady and adverse environment. The tree posted here are sandwich between a mango tree, two giant boca samoan Dwarf and A tall hedge fence. The bigger they become the more cold resistant. Orlando area where my uncle live it get down to 25f, so yes I still protect it, once you have fruit & ton of seeds you can do cold selection like me with reckless abandon! Now come up with an interesting name not Luis Spine pillow, make sure to add the snob in the name somewhere so future breeder know its origin and dont spent decades duplicating my work when they should advancing a line or create a new one. Maybe you can call it Portuguese Chill Snob when it thrive in -5 celcius; wow that be a new temperate climate fruit! I certainly did not have any wind chill when I was developing it!;D
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Luis it was bred to flower and fruit in three years provided you give it spacing of 15-20 feet from the nearest tree full sun on good alluvial soil with high organic. My tree were grown pack tight five feet spacing as sardine. Hey its hard to fit 250 jackfruit seedling trees on ten acres with 100 coconut trees & odd and end of my breeding experiment gone wild. My seedlings are at two feet so I got to get my lazy ass out to repot them. The Taitung Annona Mafias groups are growing Luc's Mangosteen And this boca snob jack. They said their is at three to four feet using deep proprietor aerator pot. I think they just manufacturer it from one of their conglomerate holding facility cause it look like a hybrid of what Excalibur used and the aerator mess pot style. I have both style and use it to speed up Luc'Mangosteen. The Taitung use an aerator pot that is four feet deep and 18 inch in diameter, damm it look like an plastic eelpot trap now I think about it...got get my ass up to Okechobee to get the fall eel run.
Anyway make sure they do not sit in high water table, year round irrigation & plenty of organic make them Flower year round so far in 2014; unusual long hot year which have advance a lot of my fruit two to three months early. Did you get a 100% germination? I recall the tree from seeds to one year were around ten feet so dont climb the tree! Year two it will be at 20 feet and year three it be 25-30 and the diameter trunk is around 7 inch so you can safely climb it! ;D. Now this is South Florida with its blessed year round growing season so your area might vary. I will later send a sample of it to the forestry agency to calibrate the wood quality. My tree are breed to grow tight and tall, the money here beside the fruit on contract to The New York Fruit Mafias are the yellow lumber for making fine furniture. Wood is quite light and strong, maybe I can get Porsche to make a jack fruit lumber interior, prettier than the boring black cow leather in my wife Macan S twin turbo 400! My friend Bentley has some nice tropical fossilize wood they call from Australia look very similar to Jack. Remember I have grown and fruit Thai jackfruit from seeds in 18 months, fruit taste awful and weight of fruit break the tree. Three years are not so unreasonable for a taste of Eden! Keep us posted on your progress; I have forgotten to send you the bill! ;D
Stuart yes I used my Kantana for trimming to keep myself accurate so I dont injury my kendo students.. My students love to practice their sword strokes on green jackfruits, mucus latex slow down their ability to cut the fruit in half if they are not concentrating on cutting angles & control breathing, and no need of gasoline trimer to pollute the air. Katana is a deadly weapon so be carefull if you want to be a Samurai Jack in your Jackfruit Orchard! ;D
I don't think the thai grow them from seeds because i see them grafted in every shop that sells fruittree's.
But if you want to mention that they are not nice then better brag about the (European) cars...
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The Pakistani Marble Jackfruit ripe last week, this is the parent of Boca Orange Snob. Here is member Sedeation aka Ron molesting its green goodness back in August.
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This variety I got around seven or eight years ago from a fruit at Hi-market in New Jersey produce a spicy flavor fruit that have a very long keeping quality. The skin from young & old fruitts are not spiky but smooth & could fool you into picking it to early. Member Sedeation was too lazy to pickup the fruit too busy treating Ebola Victim so I led Frank aka Fransciso and his wife Diane try their first no latex to little latex crunchy jackfruit. Diane is allergic to latex so I was worry, she ate it and did not die yet, good she is a former Nurse at John Hopskin so we are safe. If she did, Frank & I had an alibi, she just cameback from West Africa!:D
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This fruit develop unique flavor, when we cut open it taste like chupa chupa, musk melon, Sat in frigerature for four day, open ate a little taste like mango pine apple and today after a week rotting in the frig my dog and I polish the quarter of the fruit we kept; its still crunchy but have a feuity strawberry rasperry taste with a blossom curry smell; that is ehy I am falling in love with Pakistani variety. Its rags are pink reddish the iphone camera just cant capture. Rags are sweet tart and does not give me the fart that Boca Orange snob has.
The seeds are small marble like as compare to Boca Orange Snob kidney white shape.
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Here is my girls consuming the fruit, my Malteses favorite fruit is Jackfruit not annona.
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Today I have also received a letter from my Nazi HOA attesting to a strong malordous perfumery imagine by those Geriatric without a cause on constant gerital & Viagra duties.
Last week when the fruit ripe it emit a strong aged dog shit or limbuger cheese with curry thrown in, my wife complained Bella or Belle, the girls here had GI infection again, the feces smell; they are so cute how dare to be accuse of such fruity crimes.
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I took the fruit over to Frank house and I can say his house now smell like shit but the strange thing like durian the closer you get to the the fruit it smell of heaven but a hundred yard away I could sware Frank farted! :-X :-X ::). I prefer the Pakistani dog shit smelly fruit over the much tamer Boca Orange Snob I have developed for the white guys taste; at least I know this part Choctaw Indian Shaman can light several errant fires in the Nazi hood to trouble my neighboors from my farts, hopefully they all die off so I can indoctrinate the younger Jewish new owners moving in to turn our Jewish Golden Ghetto into a Golden Kosher fruity-hood! And I am the only Chief in this crazy neighboorhood thank you very much! ;D
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Congrats on the beautiful fruit Jack! Sorry I couldn't pass by been getting out of work late. Looks like I missed out on an amazing Jack. Next time! Let me know if you need me to help you out with the Whitman fiberless love to try it.
Ron
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Coconut, do you think I can also reserve some seeds of the Boca Orange Snob this winter?
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Wow! I might have to plant some of these orange snobs myself! Coconut, are you saying they are certified kosher? Can we start exporting these fruits to Israel? Maybe they can substitute this orange snob for traditional etrog? ;-)
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You gonna share any budwood coconut
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Coconut,
Here is the Boca Snob seedling, its doing well :). I removed the waterboxx with no problems after taking the picture.
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Stephen mine is triple that size and flowering already. It was bred to flower in 18 months or two years to increase my breeding immortality. You need to give it lot of redneck fertilizer, y'all mom is not taking care of it I can tell. Nice to know it is doing well better than Bob407 in Puerto Rico keep telling me he keep trimmimg a foot off while grown in a pot. I am glad some one decide to stick it in the ground finally. Oh make sure to cut the fertile fruit or abort it until third year when it twenty feet than you can have as much fruit as you want wit its 8 inch diameter. I am counting on you to spread it around. I sold my Jackfruit plantation in Loxahatchee to a mutual fund complex this summer. Exiting the real estate cause we are coming into a bubble and get the help out of the stock market, its bubble is waiting burst. Next downturn I will buy it again or different area and start the cycle again. I have develop what I think is a better Orange snob suitable for pot cultures; I am still waiting for the dam thing to flower after four years! It fruit is around five lbs, almost zero or no latex, sweet crunchy tart flavor with green scale resistant and handle cold like snob or better; ran out of room so stuck it in shade that is why slow growth but I recently saw a 4o foot red malay apple down and this Annamese pakistani cross is taking off! Its spiciness will win many hearts and mine!👍🏻 Thank You for not killing my research, Rare Fruit Seti Project!😄
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The cut fruit looks very much like many of the orange crispy low latex types here that are the best I have tried.
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Congratulation :D
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Coconut,
I have started to fertilize with osmocote, otherwise the first several months it has received no supplemental water besides what the waterboxx supplied and the natural rain.
It seems to be established in the ground now, so I took off the waterboxx. My mother does not reliabily water, I call her to remind her to water the plants in the ground when there is an extended dry spell lasting more then 2 weeks.
This Boca snob is getting the wild treatment in PSL. I will be updating when it makes more progress. So far its looking good just growing a bit slow (probably due to lower fertilizer application and less water.
Don't worry I will spread it around. I will even start planting it near in the public areas such as natural reserves etc. Once I get my hands on some biodegradable waterboxxes.
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Jack, my Orange snobs are doing well and I only cut a foot off and clipped some leaves in half after they were bare rooted and took a nice journey through the mail. The top foot of one tree was spindly and it had to go since the tree was quite stressed on arrival(it was four foot tall). It responded by growing another foot and sending out six branches. I must have done something right since all three trees have survived, some cannot make the same claim with the Orange snob. Another concern is that the hurricanes will easily wipe out a tall, top heavy tree, especially if it is carrying fruit as large as the jack fruit. I don't want it to look like a Georgia pine more like a Georgia peach. I also had the chance to see how a short earthquake can bring top heavy trees down easily. This one is going to be low and branched. The soil and extended dry periods are another concern. I have much more control in a pot until it is ready for its new home in ground. Many trees that are planted out by others here quickly succumb to the elements and perish, it also seems that there is an issue with root development for some trees in this soil which is much like concrete. I don't feel like risking it with this one! Time will tell, of course, and I plan on having fruit to show.
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Amazing coconut. I'm interested in the seeds as well. Hoping to grow one here in Los Angeles.
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Another home run ;D
Very tasty looking!
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The cut fruit looks very much like many of the orange crispy low latex types here that are the best I have tried.
It better be Mike T, many of the prototype no name seedlings ship to Taiwan a decade & half or so ago is floating around for the better of a decade as strain for many breeder; I wish I could go back and get royalties from the Taiwan Fruit Mafias. But hey a no name Chief on Wallstreet, who the hell would believe he is as good at breeding as his stock picking. I had to overcome a lot of prejudice by the PHDs AG Scientist they hired in the region who resist my way of thinking and my puny Botany Degree/accounting/economic degree...no POst doctoral here; just poverty hunger and determination is my PHD! Anyway they paid me year later with this for the multistem coconut and past due & collaboration on improve jack for canning and drying chip! We make Jack Sexy ( were for years consider peasant food or pig folder in Asia)
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Inside wood trim were made of jackfruit lumber harvest from my Royal Palm Estate I sold this summer to a mutual fund complex and the Taitung Annona Mafias were so thoughtful of giving me cream macupuno coconut color. I am greatly appreciating the Taiwanese mafia for renumerating me in a generous personal way. I am kind of disappointed they gave me the lowest end model! ( I want to trade it in this January for diesel pusher tiffen or winnebego 50 footer and it only buy half a RV. 😩🚍A white macupuno cream lamboghini with jacfruit wood trim interior; they could stole my works and never renumerate me; I truly love these Billionares for their love in bringing only the best to the high end markets and overtime trickle down to everyone the genetics! What good is it to create something like the orange snob line without a vertical distribution network omnipresent, nice these people own the fruit & food syndicates, just dont get them angry!😬 PS the Boca Orange Snob is actually red orange hue, my cheap ass iphone 4s suck but the 5s is not much better! But who the hell care about the color! Its very cold, drought and resistant to green and white scale, spiraling flies. Fast to fruit and the big money maker here is the fine straight lumber for luxery car...and you can take that to the bank!
Thank God my shitty breeding works have not genetically polluted Africa, Pakistan, Ceylon, Burma and India yet; so I can busy collect untainted best of class Jacks for the Taitung Annona Mafias future Sith Breeders. Mike T you are blessed that Aussie Farmers like Taitung Farmers are selecting top notch fruit, now they just need to find a few younger version of Sith Breeder to bring variance and continous improvement to be world class. Here in America sadly the younger Sith breeders are into breeding Acalpuco Gold rather and smoking up their talents rather And we are left with a tarpit of carboard fruit!😄
I wish my zone was 12 so I can have all that, but than again I would not have the good fortune of zone pushing fruits no one want to or forget to improve!👍
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Congrats on the Huracan, I prefer it to the Aventador.
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Hi Coconut
Don't forget me, I have reserved some seeds for the next season! ;)
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The cut fruit looks very much like many of the orange crispy low latex types here that are the best I have tried.
It better be Mike T, many of the prototype no name seedlings ship to Taiwan a decade & half or so ago is floating around for the better of a decade as strain for many breeder; I wish I could go back and get royalties from the Taiwan Fruit Mafias. But hey a no name Chief on Wallstreet, who the hell would believe he is as good at breeding as his stock picking. I had to overcome a lot of prejudice by the PHDs AG Scientist they hired in the region who resist my way of thinking and my puny Botany Degree/accounting/economic degree...no POst doctoral here; just poverty hunger and determination is my PHD! Anyway they paid me year later with this for the multistem coconut and past due & collaboration on improve jack for canning and drying chip! We make Jack Sexy ( were for years consider peasant food or pig folder in Asia)
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Inside wood trim were made of jackfruit lumber harvest from my Royal Palm Estate I sold this summer to a mutual fund complex and the Taitung Annona Mafias were so thoughtful of giving me cream macupuno coconut color. I am greatly appreciating the Taiwanese mafia for renumerating me in a generous personal way. I am kind of disappointed they gave me the lowest end model! ( I want to trade it in this January for diesel pusher tiffen or winnebego 50 footer and it only buy half a RV. 😩🚍A white macupuno cream lamboghini with jacfruit wood trim interior; they could stole my works and never renumerate me; I truly love these Billionares for their love in bringing only the best to the high end markets and overtime trickle down to everyone the genetics! What good is it to create something like the orange snob line without a vertical distribution network omnipresent, nice these people own the fruit & food syndicates, just dont get them angry!😬 PS the Boca Orange Snob is actually red orange hue, my cheap ass iphone 4s suck but the 5s is not much better! But who the hell care about the color! Its very cold, drought and resistant to green and white scale, spiraling flies. Fast to fruit and the big money maker here is the fine straight lumber for luxery car...and you can take that to the bank!
Thank God my shitty breeding works have not genetically polluted Africa, Pakistan, Ceylon, Burma and India yet; so I can busy collect untainted best of class Jacks for the Taitung Annona Mafias future Sith Breeders. Mike T you are blessed that Aussie Farmers like Taitung Farmers are selecting top notch fruit, now they just need to find a few younger version of Sith Breeder to bring variance and continous improvement to be world class. Here in America sadly the younger Sith breeders are into breeding Acalpuco Gold rather and smoking up their talents rather And we are left with a tarpit of carboard fruit!😄
I wish my zone was 12 so I can have all that, but than again I would not have the good fortune of zone pushing fruits no one want to or forget to improve!👍
Typical Taiwanese move giving you the lowest end model. Do you have pics of the jackfruit wood interior? ... On second thought, Does this mean they own you for life? Can you still give seeds away on the forum??
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This Parkland Orange snob no latex is the best breeding of my Boca Orange Snob lines for processing & au naturel. The fruit is smaller than the Boca Orange Snob line families with smoother skin that turned spotted black when it starts to ripen on tree for up to two weeks without loosing its crispness, high starch contents and flavors(no seeds strout inside like Bangkok Lemon, Other varieties etc.). The Annona Mafias's processing plant is able to save about $569,000 per annum from the thinner skin and no latex as compared to the spiny skin low latex varieties on their Hybrid German-Japanese peeling and decore separation plant. Processing ten tracker trailers per hours. The tree ripen carpels are dry chip process with the tender high brix rags process into ice cream emulsion for a base to improved low end industrial God Forsaken tasteless Tommy Akin into tasting like high end alphonse mango ice cream in China.
Now most of you are well aware by now that a lot of process food in China are fake just like Chinese Dry Wall, there's no real Mangoes in their Chinese Ice cream unless it comes from the Annona Mafias's. The peel from jack are process into an excellent feed for fattening Waigu Beef for the Northern and Western China Markets. So next time you are in Northern and Western China you can be thankful that super expensive Mango Ice Cream is the real deal, really nothing's more than Americans' favorite supermarket Tommy Akin mango cross with a Parkland Boca Orange no latex goumet rags (without lactose milk products to Offense the Chinese Stomach).
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The Boca Orange snobs (Royal Palm Snob Boca Raton, Royal Palm Snob Fruity Acres, Clewiston Snob Jackfruits,etc) they all have pretty skins traditional spine shark skins which ripen a month later than the Parkland Orange snob.
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Compare to Parkland Orange Snob skin and smaller fruit shape:
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Beautiful and looks super tasty:D
Great work as always!!
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Those look amazing Jack !
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Congratulations It looks very appetizing!
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Would love to get some seeds or scions of that zero latex jackfruit variety. If available , please pm me, thanks.
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Coconut. Would you be willing to sell scions of your tree? The thought of no latex brings so much joy to my soul! I've got about 6 jackfruit seedlings that would be perfect for rootstock!
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First flowers. Finally In the ground at my new house. Checked on the little guy today, and it's flowering!
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Greetings fellow jackfruit lovers,
I have been browsing the forum and stumbled on this thread and have fallen for this no latex orange snob. Does anyone know how I can get my hands on some seeds? I am in San Jose, Ca, zone 9b, trying to push my zone with a bunch of seedlings I germinated from seeds I got from a store bought jackfruit but I am sure its no where compared to what's discussed here. I would appreciate it if anyone can help out the newbie!
Thanks!