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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Green Scene Plant & Garden Show 2014
« on: March 30, 2014, 10:24:38 AM »
Will try to be there.

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California
  • Blooms very early, but low temperatures during winter minimize off-season production
  • Bloom and set during traditional Hass flowering period similar to Hass
  • Hass season fruit indistinguishable from conventional Hass

Not too exciting for So Cal. Still...what's the price per plant?

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Got some manilla-esque mangoes from Miramar Cash & Carry. They also had breadfruit, which I'll be trying for the first time :)

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I've read that the tap root can be many multiples of the above ground plant, which is the main reason I put them into the ground right away. I'm planting many per location and will select the best growing from those.

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I do all my mangoes sandwiched in damp paper towels in a ziplock. Mine have been going in ground after the taproot gets to about 6 inches, which you might or might not want to do  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It Must Be The Wind
« on: March 25, 2014, 10:58:10 AM »
I have one friend that loves avocados and she planted six avocados in six different years and they died shortly after planting. Three years ago, I told her to plant multiple Hass seeds in a location where she wanted her future avocado tree and when the seedlings came up, I successfully grafted a Hass onto one of her seedlings that is now thriving. I suggest this method for anyone having difficulty establishing an avocado tree in their yard.
Simon

Awesome suggestion simon. I'm doing something like that in my crappy clay soil.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gem Avocado
« on: March 21, 2014, 12:15:48 PM »
Recently had a number of GEM avocados. Taste was excellent. Like Hass but with a hint of something that makes it a bit stronger (bitterness?). I prefer Hass, but the GEM is quite good.

Interestingly, 3 of them had pits that were already split and a root growing out along the surface of the pit. Fast germinating.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Happy Spring Time!
« on: March 21, 2014, 11:23:27 AM »
 :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Choquette vs Hall Avocado
« on: March 19, 2014, 10:42:42 PM »
lol

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: *Hypothetical* if you were to...
« on: March 18, 2014, 08:41:38 PM »
I'd try growing pakistan mulberry as a high density crop. kinda like grape.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Babaco
« on: March 18, 2014, 11:00:37 AM »
Some bad news and some good news:

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Hi Shane,

Sorry, no babaco, but we do ship to Portugal.  I need to know what you want in order to give you a quote, including the shipping cost.

Thanks,

Bryan
Montoso Gardens

Maybe you can get them to start growing babaco? Or at least order a bunch of their most interesting plants before they stop shipping to europe!

edit: link to their site
http://www.montosogardens.com/fruit_nut_spice_collection.htm

988
I was in the same boat w/ regard to cherimoyas until recently.

Regarding avocados, you can get varieties that are less alternate bearing (or not at all). Also, I don't think they are toxic to dogs:
http://www.petinsurance.com/healthzone/pet-articles/pet-health-toxins/Avocados-and-Pets.aspx My horticulture prof. (also farm advisor for the county) says he's never seen a skinny dog in an avocado orchard.

White sapote is very sweet and gets soft rapidly. Kindof like eating a very ripe pear with the skin sliding all over the place.

Agree on guava. Smell wonderful, taste ok. I did find a white variety recently that I really like though.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Babaco
« on: March 17, 2014, 11:01:16 AM »
I got the same answer from Wallach: "Sorry...No..."

There's some discussions of this in other threads. Seems like governments are clamping down and no one wants to ship across borders. You need to find someone in portugal (or at least western europe) with a tree you can propagate from. There's several members from portugal (and many others from europe). Have you tried PMing them?

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I agree with you but I know our winters are mild enough for mangos to grow during that period.....our friend Behl came from a colder winters in North Indian and mangos grow like weeds down there. So what's the determining factor, Precipitation. Florida get an average of 60" a year vs 7" for us.

Eunice has a clever way to go around this: the perfect rootstock. Her grafted trees grow as well as any in south Florida but she had to top work her piņa trees after growing them for 10 years to achieve that.
My advice, for whatever is worth, is to find yourself a vigorous rootstock, like your Manny that produce very mediocre mangos, and top work it like Eunice.


I'd like to hear more about Eunice as I'm trying to grow my own rootstocks inground from seed.

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First, I'd read all the CRFG info pages on fruiting trees/palms. Then I'd get myself over to Mimosa Nursery and wander around for a couple hours.

I'm happiest with having planted my Jaboticaba, but its not going to be big. For big I went with pakistan mulberry.

I don't think starfruit is that big and it can fruit in shade, so I'd save that for another spot.

How about a fruit that isn't so exotic but a variety that is? Like Jan Boyce avocado or Valentine Pomelo?

992
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberry Pruning Question
« on: March 13, 2014, 11:37:19 AM »
I've long wondered if mulberry could be grown like grapes: trained into a T structure and cut back every year. Or would it just take too much pruning throughout the growing season?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: avocados year around
« on: March 13, 2014, 11:34:36 AM »
If I remember right carmen hass has multiple crops in mexico but only one in california. Haven't heard anything about its behavior in florida.

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Nullz, I know you've given up on this but I haven't! I'm on my third attempt to root cuttings from my favorite trees.

Recently came across two recent and very interesting articles.

Season and roothormone effects on propagating from cuttings:
http://www.ccsenet.org/journal/index.php/jas/article/view/19273
Individual cultivars respond differently. Some have strong preference for time of cutting and amount of hormone, some not.

Second article (referenced w/in the first) is on efforts in Turkey to find good cultivars for commercial fruit production:
http://www.academicjournals.org/journal/JMPR/article-abstract/48CBB1520112
They've found ones with big sweet fruit. Know anyone in Turkey?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: El Bumpo Avocado? Naw, can't be....
« on: March 12, 2014, 11:02:37 AM »
Looks the same as the avocado on the bottom of epicenter's front page. I e-mailed them to ask what its called. Doesn't appear to be from the varieties they sell, or at least isn't a typical fruit from those varieties.



http://www.epicenteravocados.com/

Epicenter replied.
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I think it was a Dickinson, although not 100% sure.
Yours, Ellen

Looking up dickinson in the avocado database gives a similar picture and even better description:
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Medium thick skin. Fruit texture is rough with fine, seed-like raised bumps. Small, pebbly fruit sometimes appears immature when actually it is ready to be harvested.
http://ucavo.ucr.edu/avocadovarieties/VarietyList/Dickinson.html

Doing an advanced search on "pebbly" yields a dozen hits including dickinson and whitsell.  Might want to read through those descriptions.

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From http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Pithecellobium_dulce.html

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Often planted for living fence or thorny hedge, eventually nearly impenetrable, guamachil furnishes food, forage, and firewood, while fixing a little nitrogen. The pods, harvested in Mexico, Cuba, and Thailand, and customarily sold on roadside stands, contain a thick sweetish, but also acidic pulp, eaten raw or made into a drink similar to lemonade. Pods are devoured by livestock of all kinds; the leaves are browsed by horses, cattle, goats, and sheep; and hedge clippings are often gathered for animal feed. The plants withstand heavy browsing. The seeds contain a greenish oil (20%), which, after refining and bleaching, can be used for food or in making soap. The presscake, rich in protein (30%), may be used as stockfeed. Bark used as a fish poison in the Philippines (Perry, 1980). Known in the Philippines as "Kamachil", the wood, malodorous when cut, is used for boxes, crates, fuel, and wagon wheels. The gum exuding from the trunk can be used for mucilage, the tannin for tanning. The bark is harvested for tanning in Mexico. Tree seems promising for the cultivation of the lac insect. Flowers make good honey.

Seems to withstand everything but cold.

Is it best to just grow from seed?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Babaco
« on: March 11, 2014, 11:21:51 AM »
I just got a plant from Logee's. In the ground and pushing new leaves :) According to their website they ship worldwide. There are probably better sources for you though.

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Plants in pots but can be in ground.. { i have a major prob. with Deer getting to them, so i have them in pots  ;D}
Pakistan mulberry, ever bearing mulberry,  Ice-cream Banana, Papaya, miho satsuma,Ujukitsu, kumquat, calamondin, sunburst tangerine, royal lee and minnie royal cherries, pink and white guavas, Fantastic Avocado, Mission Olive, Moringa (drumstick tree), Pithecellobium dulce (guamichile or sweet madras or manilla tamarind), Rabbiteye Blueberries, passion fruit vine.

I don't see much discussion of this tree here. Seems like a spiky version of ice cream bean. Interested in growing it for edible yet fearsome hedge. Anyone have experience with it? In California?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pithecellobium_dulce

Main complaints in other forums appears to be cold sensitivity and abundance of seedlings.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: CRFG 2013 Fruit Shoot Winners
« on: March 10, 2014, 10:12:36 PM »
apparently a black pepper substitute

http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/content/monkey-pepper.htm

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