The Tropical Fruit Forum

We've been taking the topic of swapping or changing cultivar names quite seriously for sometime
(At lease I have, ever since I created the thread "Which cultivars are renamed, or just the same? Label swappers for profit? "  here on your forum ).

And especially when a seasoned mango buff, like BS, has omitted an important part of the true name....which seems to have created some perverse confusion here on the thread.

It's lead to three names for this one Vietnamese cultivar, cac, coc, and the original Xoài Cóc.

So what's the name you will choose? and why?

Quote from: murahilin on August 01, 2012, 12:53:02 PM

Quote from: SWRancher on August 01, 2012, 11:55:36 AM

Lighten up everyone, its just funny.

Exactly. People are taking it way too seriously.

tastewise how does the cac mango taste compared with the dot mango?  pros/cons?

Quote from: BestDay on July 31, 2012, 12:11:05 PM

JF, that's a nice looking Lemon Zest.  You put that in the ground last year right?  I think size wise mine is one or two years behind yours.  Did that tree try to fruit this year?

Bill

Thanks Bill

I put my LZ in the ground last Nov. or Dec. It has flush three or four times so far and it did not flower this year. It seems to be almost as vigorous as my Glenn here in North Orange County. I tried the fruit in Florida a few days ago and it was excellent but there are many other varieties that I prefer. I also hear from a very good source in FL that they are a shy bearer....there is an awful lot of hoopla going around with these new varieties, if I was you I would stick with the old proven varieties.

I have eaten 3 Cacs, the zill, smith and Carrie.  Cac is very impressive.  Even the seed and very little fibre.  Silky smooth to eat, rich but not too rich, sweet but not too sweet.  The people I shared this with we're wowed by the texture.  This makes the top 3 between all I tasted from Fairchild/color field.  I found myself making sounds (umph!  Ummmm) while eating it.

Just ate the Zill which I thought might be underripe but was fine.  A very tidy tasty little mango.

Carrie also impressed with balanced rich/sweet taste and silky smooth flesh.  Could eat these all day.

Smith was an orange fleshed larger mango.  Ok taste in isolation but pales compared to the above.

Ok here is the situation, I have a potted mango tree that was given to me as "Ice Cream", the foliage is exactly like what I have seen online, ( thin leaves ).  this year it has flowered for the first time and has set and has held on to 3 fruit.

The problem is the fruit do not look like Ice Cream,  they are big and more elongated than Ice cream I have had. 
( I will try and get a picture up tomorrow ).  the fruit is still on the tree.

What other varieties have leaves similar to Ice Cream?

The young fruits were discolored by mites.

I read that turpentine will get this sticky stuff off. We did not have any so Mike used Turtle Wax Bug and Tar remover. That worked. Not sure if it is as good as turpentine since we have not tried it. What do you use to get rid of the stickies?

Isn't that what Har's been referring to as Finger-sop?

Gonna have to disagree with you on that one. I've given my mango trees copious amounts of mulch over the past several years (hundreds of cubic yards), and my mango trees have never been healthier. I know IFAS isn't always correct, but even they recommend mulching mango trees.

Dr Campbell for a while was recommending no mulch to keep nitrogen down, but last I remember he was extolling the simple growing methods of the Indians, which includes leaf litter / trimmings for mulch.

I suppose if you smothered the tree in 3 feet of mulch, you might see some detriment. But I've dumped it down almost a foot deep with no ill effect.

There are obviously exceptions (eg, if you're growing mangoes in muck soil).

Quote from: bsbullie on July 26, 2012, 07:16:38 PM

Its more than just the rot issue, its suffocating the surface/crown roots.  Really no different than the approach to mango trees.

When done correctly, mulching is actually beneficial to citrus. The problem is that the naive gardener will mulch too close to the trunk, which can lead to collar rot. Therefore, sources will often recommend no mulch on citrus to preclude folks from mulching too close to the trunk.

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Quote from: bsbullie on July 26, 2012, 09:24:45 AM

Quote from: KarenRei on July 26, 2012, 09:13:40 AM

Haha... great thread.

Depending on how much of a rush you're into kill the grass, and assuming you don't want to use grass killer (which shouldn't harm any tree except a banana, which isn't actually a tree), you could put down plastic (preferably clear or black) and let the grass bake to death.

Putting down enough weed killer to kill the grass could harm the tree.  Also, putting down plastic as you describe would have its own problems.  One, it would suffocate the same roots you are trying to expose (again, it needs to breathe): and two, the plastic would trap in moisture with no air circulation which again would be harmful to the trees.

Rob,  Richard was quite adamant about NOT mulching citrus.   You may want to ask him about this

According to the folks at Zill's the Lemon Zest (aka 27-1) has never been mislabeled as the Orange Sherbet (aka G-32).  The pot mislabeling (tag reads Lemon Zest (27-1) pot reads OS) was done during earlier production and was never a matter of mix up, the Orange Sherbet had not been in production when the OS pot writing was done.