Author Topic: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous (Read 390053 times)

fruitlovers · « **Reply #75 on:** February 16, 2013, 10:16:40 PM »

Quote from: ASaffron on February 16, 2013, 08:04:51 PM

Oscar!

I can't believe they aren't fruiting all over in Hawaii !!

It will love your climate! I believe it's tolerant somewhat to coastal locations...and it's very resistant to rust...and high temps....probably resistant to wind as well...more so than most jaboticabas.

I bought some vexator plants from Frankies a few years ago, but they never did well. I think the plants were too pot bound when i bought them. So i need to start from scratch.

LEOOEL · « **Reply #76 on:** February 17, 2013, 03:03:52 PM »

Quote from: ASaffron on February 16, 2013, 09:56:28 AM

taste to me like jaboticaba / rollinia...very nice, and unique...not like typical jaboticaba.

fruits are large, thick skinned with large seed.

if u don't fertilize them and forget water the hell out of them, the fruits will be small, with scant pulp, and large seeds.

the skin is so thick and tannic, it isn't wise to go chomping through it (like typical jabos) it will have a suriname cherry tasting resin, that some dislike....I have come to enjoy the taste of the oils in the skin...but those who wish to avoid it, can simply precut the fruits in half before eating, and suck out the pulp, without getting much of the tannic oils in the skin.

Thanks for that great description. It looks like you have one fine fruit tree there.

Because I've very limited sun-space to plant trees, due to the landscaping method I'm using, I've decided to purchase a grafted jaboticaba fruit tree of the variety that's black-and-large. And, is known for producing fruit at least twice a year. I am so glad and surprised that I've found it.

Now I just have to allocate the funds to purchase it. The government and economy, here and the world's, seem to have gone childish-stupid-crazy. Sorry, I digreess, couldn't help it. But, I'm mad, mad, mad about it and can't take it anymore!!!

huertasurbanas · « **Reply #77 on:** February 18, 2013, 08:53:43 AM »

Quote from: ASaffron on February 15, 2013, 08:36:19 AM

Huertasurbanas,

give them full sun!!!

ok, I did it

yes my lord!

LEOOEL · « **Reply #78 on:** February 19, 2013, 02:56:42 AM »

Quote from: Jackfruitwhisperer69 on February 14, 2013, 03:51:24 PM

Hi Leooel,
You're most welcome, buddy enjoy them vids and the popcorn :-)

Hi Adam,
With all these white flowers...your tree looks like cotton candy Absolutely gorgeous
Thanks for sharing, Amigo

Steven, great jaboticaba videos, I really enjoyed them. I saw them over the weekend (while eating pop-corn, really). Although some of the vids. were in Portuguese, I was able to follow most of what they were saying, because Portuguese is similar to Spanish, lucky me.

They really have a jaboticaba industry over there in Brazil. And, it's nice to see how, pretty much, all the people are happy in jaboticaba season. The feeling seems contageous, in a good way of course.

I noticed that just about the time the trees are due to flower, they give the trees "streams of water," incredible. I guess it's true what they say, that jaboticaba fruit trees do benefit from a lot of water.

Thanks for the jaboticaba education, I'm definitely on my way to be a jaboticabaholic anonymous jaboticabaholic.

Jackfruitwhisperer69 · « **Reply #79 on:** February 20, 2013, 10:53:35 AM »

Howdy Leo,
Happy you enjoyed them vids

Brazilians sure love to twist and tango around the Jabuticaba tree, and they treasure the tree very much

The fazenda Jabuticabal is the biggest plantation of Jabuticaba in the World...they have 37.000 trees, that are producing

The owner says if you get eat one fruit of each tree...you can have the plantation for free

Here's more vids

Brazilian Portuguese

Colheita de Jabuticaba em Roraima

TV Brasil Central_Vinho da Jabuticaba da pesquisa à produção

Fazenda Jabuticabal

Jaboticaba em Goiás

English

Jaboticaba an Exotic Tropical Fruit that grows on the tree trunk

Jaboticaba fruit

Harvest from Seedling Jaboticaba

Picking Star Fruit and Jaboticaba in Maui Hawaii

Looks like Grimal or Fuzzy Jaboticaba

Large-leaved Jaboticaba

huertasurbanas · « **Reply #80 on:** February 20, 2013, 04:50:22 PM »

hi, I went mad an did this:

http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2013/02/20/clima-comparacion-entre-junin-bs-as-arg-y-sabara-bh-brasil/

you will love it

(sorry, it is in spanish but you can auto-translate using google or any other tool)

fruitlovers · « **Reply #81 on:** February 20, 2013, 05:11:04 PM »

Looks like you are trying to put Junin on the map...elevating Junin to world importance?

The thing in your favor is that jaboticaba is an adaptable plant: doesn't have to have exact same climate to grow and fruit as where it originated. The other thing going for you is that there are a lot of different jaboticabas that have acclimitized to different parts of Brazil. I'm sure you can find some that will be happy in Junin. They might just need a bit of protection during your very coldest winters. They will be happy with your hotter summers.

huertasurbanas · « **Reply #82 on:** February 20, 2013, 07:47:32 PM »

Thanks Oscar, I was wondering: it would be interesting for this addict group to find jaboticabas in google street view!

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #83 on:** February 24, 2013, 04:31:31 PM »

I've been eating fruits from the Myrciaria vexator trees (blue jaboticaba), and notice that although they appear to have reached full coloration, and peak ripeness. they are still not ready...after about 8 days...fully purple...still not ripe!

They need to have a definite rubbery give when squeezed, to be considered ready, and after turning fully purple, it can take almost 2 weeks to reach this stage.

I've let a few people taste the fruits, because they saw them on the trees...and begged to eat them...I warned them that they weren't ripe yet, but based upon the fruit appearance they insisted...and the result was a disappointment to the eager consumers. It's something like eating a sapodilla too early...the taste is horribly tart, tannic, and astringent.

When they are ready, the texture is divine, the flavor is outstanding...the fruits are quite large, but so is the seed, and the skin is thick, and tannic (its best to avoid biting right into the fruits, so use a knife to cut them in half, then consume).

This tree is one of my favorites, but you must understand the tree to enjoy the fruits. The same is even true for the common Sabara (M. jaboticaba)...many people eat them too early, never getting a chance to enjoy the true delicious sweet flavor, and silky smooth texture of a properly ripened jabuticaba.

fruitlovers · « **Reply #84 on:** February 24, 2013, 06:12:13 PM »

Yeah, here too some people pick and sell the jaboticabas way too early and then complain that they are not sweet.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #85 on:** February 25, 2013, 12:32:40 AM »

On May 2nd 1976, where were you?

This photo had the words, "Phil Dorn Nursery, (Jaboticaba)" written on the back. I believe it was a photo from the Miami Herald, bringing attention to jaboticaba, and Phil's nursery.

I love the old pics.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #86 on:** February 26, 2013, 05:01:50 PM »

some sizeables!

I had to pickem early..the rats are voracious. Thank goodness they leave the seeds behind!

If this was a red jaboticaba, they would have devoured all of the fruits by now, but the blue jaboticaba has a much higher resistance to animal attacks, by virtue of it's thick tannic skin.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #87 on:** February 26, 2013, 07:08:05 PM »

collect the whole set!

each one has it's own super power!

the medicinal values of each species are unique.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0968089612003872

fruitlovers · « **Reply #88 on:** February 26, 2013, 07:16:25 PM »

I like that you call the vexator blue jaboticaba, instead of the usual blue grape, which i find very confusing.
I wonder what is in the seeds that keep rats from eating it?

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #89 on:** February 26, 2013, 07:22:17 PM »

Quote from: fruitlovers on February 26, 2013, 07:16:25 PM

I like that you call the vexator blue jaboticaba, instead of the usual blue grape, which i find very confusing.
I wonder what is in the seeds that keep rats from eating it?

thanks Oscar!

you and ejardim have encouraged the name change! I'm protesting the name blue grape in your honor.

I know the seeds taste horrible and have a toxin inside of them....the only reason they gnaw through the skin, is to access the succulent flesh of the fruit.

On the red jabo, they take the Fruits and chew up the skins into little bits...the blue jabo the skins are still whole, with a small portion exposed by the rat.

they never hurt the seeds!! the seeds are nasty tannic...not good to eat. Worse than any jabo skin!

huertasurbanas · « **Reply #90 on:** February 26, 2013, 09:37:37 PM »

Quote from: ASaffron on February 26, 2013, 07:08:05 PM

collect the whole set!

each one has it's own super power!

the medicinal values of each species are unique.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0968089612003872

more very interesting stuff

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040238/table/T1/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040238/

rcardaman · « **Reply #91 on:** February 27, 2013, 10:53:45 PM »

This is how it starts. Adam sends you some seeds. You innocently plant them, and they germinate into these cute little seedlings. Then you're HOOKED!!!

All thanks to Adam, the johnny Appleseed of Jaboticabas.

Richard

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #92 on:** February 28, 2013, 12:22:03 AM »

Nice!!!

that was quick germination!

those have taken me over 4 months to germinate before!!

thanks for sharing!

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #93 on:** March 04, 2013, 10:42:30 PM »

Translate this from Portuguese...you'll find out that some fruits in the family Menispermaceae are also called Jabuticaba (Jabuticaba de cipo) http://www.arvores.brasil.nom.br/lianas/jabuticacipo/index.htm

fruitlovers · « **Reply #94 on:** March 05, 2013, 01:17:30 AM »

Never heard of that one. Common names are usually confusing, but Brazilian common names seem to be especially extra confusing as they always seem to have minimum 3-5 fruits with the same common name.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #95 on:** March 05, 2013, 03:44:57 PM »

Ok Oscar,

That last plant is real neat...but this next plant is for the totally deranged...jabo-loving deviants...

latin name, Mouriri pusa...commonly called, Mandapuça

these pics are so nasty...they can't be uploaded here on the page...just click the links for a show you won't soon forget....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cerrados/4158954404/#in/photostream/lightbox/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/andre_cardoso/5491954691/#lightbox/

http://www.kew.org/science/tropamerica/imagedatabase/large1/cat_single1-2768.htm

http://www.kew.org/science/tropamerica/imagedatabase/large1/cat_single1-2767.htm

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Mandapu%C3%A7a2.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Mandapu%C3%A7a3.jpg

I'm probably going to start a thread for this fruit. I think it's probably a slow grower...(not sure), and can fruit in a pot....but might have a touch of the "Cerrado curse". I'd love to find out.

fruitlovers · « **Reply #96 on:** March 05, 2013, 04:09:14 PM »

Had Mouriri pusa at some point. Don't recall what happened to it? Vague memory now, but as i recall it didn't have the cerrado curse, but was a slow grower. Photos you posted are neat looking alright!

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #97 on:** March 08, 2013, 05:19:59 PM »

some trees are just plain ugly, but I grow them regardless.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #98 on:** March 08, 2013, 07:56:37 PM »

an updated photo of a Grimal seedling that decided to fruit...in a 7 gal, only about half full of soil! It's one of those plants where I don't feel comfortable, unless I have 10 fruiting specimens. I think this one would smash sabara in a taste test.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #99 on:** March 15, 2013, 06:29:08 PM »

so...jaboticaba doesn't make a taproot huh?

I have some Red's that I dug up from a planter I have at my house (like the equivalent of a 2ft deep pot). The roots were allowed to grow, like they should. The tree is only about one year old, and has out grown older seedlings that were raised in plugs. This is one of the secrets to making your tree fruit in 3 years, rather than 5. Also, this seedling has always been in the shade, receiving lots of indirect sunlight.

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