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Title: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: simon_grow on March 29, 2019, 10:25:14 PM
Here are some pictures of blooming mango trees from my friends yard in SoCal.

Sweet Tart on Manilla rootstock


(https://i.postimg.cc/xJJ7LZMC/55-FD71-A8-87-EB-49-A1-B1-FA-E0392-FB7800-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJJ7LZMC)

(https://i.postimg.cc/34sq1ZFZ/D8-E70-C4-A-27-A1-4663-B580-AEA90-D710009.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/34sq1ZFZ)
Sweet Tart on Florida rootstock. The white strings in the picture are used to hold the branches upright to prevent droopiness

(https://i.postimg.cc/64VM0x39/47-D0-FC5-A-9-DD5-4-CA9-A43-C-A4-AC43-A556-BE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/64VM0x39)

(https://i.postimg.cc/R6HsWHxJ/AF27-E4-BF-7709-47-A3-AFC0-23022-CC6-F9-EB.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R6HsWHxJ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/w3D4HLkS/DD9-B8-C62-6-EBB-4221-B654-88845-E728292.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3D4HLkS)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on March 29, 2019, 10:35:32 PM
Feel free to post pictures from your blooming mango trees

Here’s Jehengar
(https://i.postimg.cc/8JcF4Rzs/528-D30-B2-2427-462-C-8-E79-22-D6-B503-BFE1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8JcF4Rzs)

(https://i.postimg.cc/9DPqQXkX/829-F822-A-1740-46-E2-9-C34-1-B7-C44-D2-D566.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9DPqQXkX)
Kesar Seedling
(https://i.postimg.cc/Mv2Tf2Vn/513-B7811-BCAF-428-B-BFDC-FEFB44-A9277-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Mv2Tf2Vn)
Bombay
(https://i.postimg.cc/7CG8Nbyw/8164-C7-A7-ECBB-45-E3-A253-B7-BF4-E9-DC52-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7CG8Nbyw)

(https://i.postimg.cc/3dYhHK2F/9-D04-EFCD-DFFB-40-CB-BFE1-021-CFC8831-E0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3dYhHK2F)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on March 29, 2019, 10:37:35 PM
PPK
(https://i.postimg.cc/DmzDQ8QD/3632-AE18-D36-F-4-E27-8731-2-C262-B716310.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DmzDQ8QD)
Fruit Punch
(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9d6qy75/0-AC54088-3-D15-4-C80-BC49-69701-C240-B99.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9d6qy75)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: Mugenia on March 29, 2019, 10:41:56 PM
Nice! Cool.  My only 🥭 tree, VP, is flowering like crazy too. Looks like you have a big yard. How big is your yard?
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: hawkfish007 on March 30, 2019, 12:05:12 AM
Very nice, here are a couple of pictures of my Carrie I took a few days ago. It is on turpentine and planted in ground September 2018 from a 15 gallon purchased from Champa. Rest of my trees planted in September of last year are flowering as well. All on turpentine.


(https://i.postimg.cc/VJ1XvpJn/IMG-0659.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJ1XvpJn)


(https://i.postimg.cc/ykCZptXt/IMG-0658.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ykCZptXt)
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on March 30, 2019, 02:19:15 AM
Nice! Cool.  My only 🥭 tree, VP, is flowering like crazy too. Looks like you have a big yard. How big is your yard?

Mugenia,

These trees are not from my yard, they are from my friends yard. Trees are growing in SoCal and my friend takes really good care of his trees.

Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: spaugh on March 30, 2019, 10:28:35 AM
Your trees are still blooming?  Mine is already full off fruits!

(https://i.postimg.cc/p9WYPmPx/11603.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p9WYPmPx)

Just kidding!  Not my tree.  This is a 50 year old tree on Paul Thomsons old property.  Another member here sent me this pic last mango season while touring the property.
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: Johnny Eat Fruit on March 30, 2019, 10:18:13 PM
My mango Trees are Blooming and are recovering from an unusually cold February. At my location in SoCal, we received about 325 hours of chill.  My low chill stone fruit trees are blooming very good.

The first photo is my Dot Mango Tree on Turpentine blooming. The Nam Doc Mai #4 and Sweet tart Mango Trees are on Manila Root-Stock are in the early state of blooming.

Johnny

(https://i.postimg.cc/vgrzxrnG/Dot-Mango-Tree-Blooming-Turpentine-3-29-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vgrzxrnG)


(https://i.postimg.cc/N2Qx6K8m/Nam-Doc-Mai-Mango-Tree-with-New-Blooms-3-29-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N2Qx6K8m)


(https://i.postimg.cc/grp4F79j/Sweet-Tart-Mango-Tree-Starting-to-Bloom-3-29-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grp4F79j)
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: Rnguyen on March 31, 2019, 07:00:14 PM
Here’s my lemon zest and maha on manilla rootstock.  It’s recovered well after the cold winter.

(https://i.postimg.cc/68F756Zy/DE355-BA0-9-C6-D-4-C71-9-AC3-FE09-C78-CCB54.png) (https://postimg.cc/68F756Zy)
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: Victoria Ave on March 31, 2019, 11:53:27 PM
Today was spring cleaning on the back yard.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19SDvyfrvhit_rCl7eaS47dTFgI9D4yBF/view?usp=drivesdk

Valencia Pride in the ground. Hoping to get fruit this year

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z-jbNL71Mk1F6i9YnSCKHKH0LJ5JM3_R/view?usp=drivesdk

Kiett in 7 gallon pot that likes flowering but not growing.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kbi9OctFx5-fMPQxi5lXWDpova-8LsnN/view?usp=drivesdk

Lancetilla first year flowering. I think I may have pruned it back a bit much last year for a more open canopy. Hoping to get some growth flushes after flowering
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: Samu on April 01, 2019, 12:06:47 PM
2 days ago photo:

(https://i.postimg.cc/5QFYXshw/IMG-2406.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5QFYXshw)

Left: Mahachanok; Right" LZ on Laverne Manila rootstock.
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on April 02, 2019, 11:28:41 AM
Jakarta
(https://i.postimg.cc/N5djGwHj/6-A4-BAC28-8935-4-F9-F-AA95-2859-C87-E5-F97.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N5djGwHj)
Sunrise
(https://i.postimg.cc/xJV0pfWt/2-F84-FDAE-5-B83-40-E1-8091-80-A00-B18-BCAE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJV0pfWt)
Coconut Cream
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y4Y7Fchg/0411-A6-E8-EE73-4-D0-F-A9-EC-2496-C7-B20-C27.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Y4Y7Fchg)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on April 02, 2019, 12:08:44 PM
Alphonso
(https://i.postimg.cc/hzYnHVZ8/13-F9-AB3-B-3-E6-A-4827-BBDF-E3933-A61979-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hzYnHVZ8)
Multigraft
(https://i.postimg.cc/vg4FLc84/425-BD7-A5-091-C-4-EEA-990-D-59-A384-DEED8-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vg4FLc84)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on April 02, 2019, 12:12:27 PM
Sweet Tart on Ataulfo
(https://i.postimg.cc/WD3bCpbv/1-E4-ECD79-60-E0-4-DA0-B2-F8-20-FFBE2692-B1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WD3bCpbv)

(https://i.postimg.cc/VrkM7P2r/C3-F0-F8-AF-DF6-D-4492-8-ECC-C65-BD054-D13-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VrkM7P2r)
Kathy
(https://i.postimg.cc/5QqVjDNg/55-D70-CF1-8-CBD-4-F3-B-A926-A82-B7503-E81-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5QqVjDNg)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: gozp on April 03, 2019, 12:34:35 PM
My mango Trees are Blooming and are recovering from an unusually cold February. At my location in SoCal, we received about 325 hours of chill.  My low chill stone fruit trees are blooming very good.

The first photo is my Dot Mango Tree on Turpentine blooming. The Nam Doc Mai #4 and Sweet tart Mango Trees are on Manila Root-Stock are in the early state of blooming.

Johnny

(https://i.postimg.cc/vgrzxrnG/Dot-Mango-Tree-Blooming-Turpentine-3-29-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vgrzxrnG)


(https://i.postimg.cc/N2Qx6K8m/Nam-Doc-Mai-Mango-Tree-with-New-Blooms-3-29-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N2Qx6K8m)


(https://i.postimg.cc/grp4F79j/Sweet-Tart-Mango-Tree-Starting-to-Bloom-3-29-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grp4F79j)

Any flowers on the coconut cream u grafted on a manila rootstock?
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: roblack on April 03, 2019, 06:53:48 PM
simply lovely
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: Johnny Eat Fruit on April 03, 2019, 08:48:48 PM
Here are two photos that were taken in late March. The Frist is the Coconut Cream in Bloom and the 2nd is a Maillika Mango Tree. Both were grafted to manila rootstock.

Johnny

(https://i.postimg.cc/dhSr5PQZ/001-Coconut-Cream-Mango-Blooming-3-31-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dhSr5PQZ)
Coconut Cream

(https://i.postimg.cc/wRHm192Z/002-Mallika-Mango-Tree-Blooming-3-29-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wRHm192Z)
Mallika
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: gozp on April 03, 2019, 09:21:30 PM
All of my mangoes are on their 2nd bloom after i plucked out the flowers when they got infected with PM.

Here Some  of my mangoes with flowers forming and are not noticeable.


(https://i.postimg.cc/5Y1xWynH/20190403-181156.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5Y1xWynH)
Pina colada tree 1

(https://i.postimg.cc/GBvcfGJw/20190403-181211.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GBvcfGJw)

Seacrest

(https://i.postimg.cc/q6JMyqKf/20190403-181229.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6JMyqKf)
Sweettart

(https://i.postimg.cc/2VX8Lz8J/20190403-181249.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2VX8Lz8J)
Peach cobbler/ pineapple pleasure

(https://i.postimg.cc/Yv5r8bFz/20190403-181307.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yv5r8bFz)
Lz

(https://i.postimg.cc/F1pKmbth/20190403-181332.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F1pKmbth)
Honey kiss

(https://i.postimg.cc/t7pgLSMr/20190403-181343.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t7pgLSMr)
Hk

(https://i.postimg.cc/DJdwSL8d/20190403-181410.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJdwSL8d)

Phoenix

(https://i.postimg.cc/RN0Z039K/20190403-181457.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RN0Z039K)
K3

(https://i.postimg.cc/JsD7b9sh/20190403-181501.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JsD7b9sh)
Os

(https://i.postimg.cc/TLXP2CY3/20190403-181529.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TLXP2CY3)

16/1
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on April 03, 2019, 11:20:52 PM
Gozp, you have a great line up. Are you going to eventually get all of those into the ground?

Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: gozp on April 04, 2019, 12:11:40 AM
Gozp, you have a great line up. Are you going to eventually get all of those into the ground?

Simon

Hi simon, my palates are more into indochinese. I have probably 13 more mangoes that are in pots. And i will probably jst keep phoenix in pot.

Your friend's mangoes are superb. I was wondering if ur mangoes are also blooming.
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: gozp on April 04, 2019, 12:23:51 AM
Here is my other pina colada in-ground.
 & bottom pot open had blooms prior to all the rains we got. But got infected with pm.

(https://i.postimg.cc/d74wY55v/20190403-212207.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d74wY55v)
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on April 04, 2019, 10:17:30 AM
Yes, my Mangos are blooming as well. First two blooms on Lemon Zest completely dried up with no fruit set but that is typical for my LZ, it’s the third bloom that usually sets a small amount of fruit. I’ll update with some pictures later.

Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on April 04, 2019, 05:38:52 PM
Sweet Tart on double rootstock
(https://i.postimg.cc/gXxpN92j/CF24-CE93-36-AF-436-F-91-C6-0-C089897-AC51.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXxpN92j)

Lemon Zest on Florida Turpentine
(https://i.postimg.cc/FdMMp76C/AB3-F4-E9-B-8205-4-F60-A212-463-CC7-FB42-E7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FdMMp76C)

CAC on Kent rootstock. Several branches got snapped in the storm but it’s got buds all over the trunk and larger branches
(https://i.postimg.cc/NyWRbH6H/BF259-FDD-4352-47-A2-AB4-B-FE04916-F019-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NyWRbH6H)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: hawkfish007 on April 05, 2019, 10:37:48 AM
My poor 3 gallon Pickering, it has more flower panicles than leaves.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hzgBqXHW/BF62-A60-B-D5-B5-4-C86-B4-F7-3753-C7-B190-E1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hzgBqXHW)
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: Victoria Ave on April 05, 2019, 12:03:54 PM
glad its looking well after winter though!

im definitely having issue with my small Keitt continualy flowering and not growing. Going to start some seedlings this year and graft when they reach a decent size to prevent this.  Guess there's not short cuts without spending a grip of money pn a box size tree
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: JF on April 05, 2019, 12:14:39 PM
glad its looking well after winter though!

im definitely having issue with my small Keitt continualy flowering and not growing. Going to start some seedlings this year and graft when they reach a decent size to prevent this.  Guess there's not short cuts without spending a grip of money pn a box size tree

There is keep snapping the panicle and have a lot of patience. Don’t give up on turpentine rootstock they just take a little longer 

Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on April 05, 2019, 08:21:47 PM
The other Kathy I posted May have been miss identified. Here is Kathy(K3)

(https://i.postimg.cc/3d361x5L/5662-FE75-175-D-47-B6-A399-7-CEC3-D3-CFA46.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3d361x5L)
For better comparison, here are some closeups of Sweet Tart on three different rootstocks
ST on Ataulfo rootstock
(https://i.postimg.cc/FYR6tCK3/A9-CD1-AD9-3705-451-B-815-B-D1511094479-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FYR6tCK3)
ST on Florida Turpentine rootstock
(https://i.postimg.cc/06KHj6DN/171-AB64-C-2260-49-DD-A29-F-E8-DC5-C21-A203.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/06KHj6DN)
ST on Manilla rootstock
(https://i.postimg.cc/dZ65pGP5/6711-CBD9-7008-49-D9-935-B-54-BADE2-DCB2-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dZ65pGP5)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on April 05, 2019, 08:25:21 PM
Angie
(https://i.postimg.cc/1g07wk7x/8218999-D-EA55-4-EC0-A6-E6-440-F1-D6890-E1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1g07wk7x)
PPK
(https://i.postimg.cc/9DdYnGdZ/B0501-BCE-8818-4873-843-E-E9060-A4-B6-DC8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9DdYnGdZ)
Sonpari
(https://i.postimg.cc/crYRvQ52/29-B50-FA8-2-D58-4-AAB-976-A-16-B3-D3-A90-F93.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/crYRvQ52)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on April 05, 2019, 09:13:22 PM
Fake Kesar seedling
(https://i.postimg.cc/HcY4MjxW/5-A31-F25-A-3-A7-B-4-CC2-A4-BB-1-F2-F1567979-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcY4MjxW)
Jehengar
(https://i.postimg.cc/CRbj6bnL/1-C3-C6114-5-EA9-4630-AB89-014-DB602670-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CRbj6bnL)
Ambrosia
(https://i.postimg.cc/nskqnZ1y/FA4-D0205-71-F9-4600-8510-8-F4-F6-E32-DDFA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nskqnZ1y)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on April 05, 2019, 09:20:46 PM
Peach Cobbler
(https://i.postimg.cc/d7tjkLDs/FDF1361-B-AE81-42-C4-870-B-0693384-FC2-F5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7tjkLDs)
FruitPunch
(https://i.postimg.cc/d7Hm8wT8/DCB8-F314-DD82-46-AE-BD39-A000-F5-EE6170.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7Hm8wT8)
Kesar seedling
(https://i.postimg.cc/SY86F91r/734744-E7-8161-4632-B6-A4-5747-EED96032.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SY86F91r)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on April 05, 2019, 09:23:39 PM
White Piri
(https://i.postimg.cc/6yfZrtky/86411-B25-3352-4694-96-AD-4-A8-CA8028-B5-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6yfZrtky)
Carrie
(https://i.postimg.cc/rDYKjmQF/604-F4545-490-A-476-D-B6-AD-5-CD1797741-E8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rDYKjmQF)
Valencia Pride
(https://i.postimg.cc/k6WG7y9B/837-A2-D01-E065-4-BD5-88-C9-CFD5-CF636-BE5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6WG7y9B)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on April 13, 2019, 10:17:50 PM
Another friends Aloha mango tree


(https://i.postimg.cc/SXtWhSGY/E802-C68-D-A20-E-4-BC7-B38-D-3-FDF9-EC75318.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SXtWhSGY)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: hawkfish007 on April 14, 2019, 02:00:45 PM
My 15 gallon ice cream mango in pot just starting to flower.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Sn2Xb3Jr/5-A4-D15-EE-C66-B-43-BD-B742-AB04-A1-C48-BB1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Sn2Xb3Jr)
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: SHV on April 14, 2019, 04:20:11 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/PNjJSrgF/C295-B3-F8-8-EAE-4-AD3-ACB1-E1296-F09-A258.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PNjJSrgF)

My family’s Sweet Tart tree located on the coast in Del Mar
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: Johnny Eat Fruit on April 14, 2019, 09:22:57 PM
Here are (5) photos taken over this last weekend. We are probably two months behind south Florida in terms of flowering but of course, they had a very warm 2019 winter so I assume flowering is way down the further south you go.

All of the noted trees I have been grafted to Manila rootstock except Val-Carrie which is on Turpentine. These Trees have been in the ground on average about 2.5 years. Just for something different the last photo is of my eight-year-old Beaumont Macadamia Tree in Bloom.

Johnny

(https://i.postimg.cc/RNN8D4Xs/001-Sweet-Tart-Mango-on-Manila-4-12-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RNN8D4Xs)
Sweet Tart on Manila


(https://i.postimg.cc/ZWNQJjk6/002-Mallika-Mango-on-Manila-4-11-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZWNQJjk6)
Mallika on Manila Rootstock



(https://i.postimg.cc/HJChn5HR/003-Nam-Doc-Mai-4-Mango-on-Manila-4-14-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HJChn5HR)
Nam Doc Mai #4 on Manila


(https://i.postimg.cc/m1hdJyNz/004-Val-Carrie-Mango-on-Turpentine-4-14-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/m1hdJyNz)
Val-Carrie on Turpentine



(https://i.postimg.cc/nXq3yz7k/005-Coconut-Cream-Mango-on-Manila-4-14-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nXq3yz7k)
Coconut Cream on Manila

(https://i.postimg.cc/k6wJfqfM/006-Beaumont-Macadamia-4-12-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6wJfqfM)
Beaumont Macadamia Tree
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: Victoria Ave on May 24, 2019, 05:39:06 PM
Hey All,

Update on my plants and I really need some help or advice for an issue I have going on.

Trees have set fruit and I'm hopeful to get some fruit off of them this year.

My 8' tall Valencia Pride has a good amount of tiny fruits and I'm hoping to get maybe a dozen off of it. Last year it held two fruit to about the size of my fist but after our 116 degree day here in Riverside the fruit shriveled and dropped.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1jxmtneo7tjtPhl4BY6-tPWK-q2UypflY)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1PNRnI350UAWxUvI0XDOBjfHpZCt6-aOF)

my small Keiit has put on a lot of fruit and they are starting to get good sized. I picked the fruit off the past couple years but I think I'm going to just let it do what it wants this year.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1HDBpZpeoveSTjU67G510Ca_Z1MFLt6M9)

This is where I'm running into some problems. My Lancetilla was one of my healthiest problem free trees except it wanting to droop. This year it flowered real heavy and set fruit. I came out and saw one day it wasn't looking too hot and the soil seemed a little dry. so i watered it. It wasn't looking too great before I left and when I came back after a 5 day absence it looks like it is toast. Foilage all brown and black spots everywhere. What is this?

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1o4yEfWHS9hNYjorDFD2hKWLF2tv_DPc_)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1lbA4uReobaAV9Y_uUt1EYYorKoeLvyRL)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1S-mlzm_jU_Xt0SbTheNrDUvjte5tRBQi)

Is this fungal or bacterial? I moved it further away from my healthy trees. SHould I give up on it or spray with copper, sulfur or micro nutrients?

It seems to have spread to the Hayden that was right next to it which I moved urther away as well. However this Hayden has been nothing but trouble and sickly from the beginning.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1rTTQTWKHCcsD3x7Ov7ZfVLs3R_VWuzJ7)

Hope SoCal People can help me ID this. Thanks


Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on May 24, 2019, 07:40:24 PM
Without genetic testing, I can only guess what it is. That looks like typical die back from Phomopsis. Phomopsis is one of the major fungal issues we have for Mangos. One of my friends sent tissue samples in for testing and the test came back as Phomopsis and another fungus I can’t recall right now.

Members from SoCal spoke with Dr Ledesma and Dr Campbell and they suggested giving our trees additional Manganese.

For Mango growers in SoCal, you should begin spraying your trees for fungus around late Fall into Winter.

Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: Victoria Ave on May 24, 2019, 09:29:21 PM
Thanks Simon,

Should I just cut these down and remove them from my property is there a curative regimen I could put them on? Not sure if it's worth trying something top keep them alive
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on May 24, 2019, 10:02:59 PM
They look like goners to me. I would use copper and alternate it with Sulfur or some sort of orchard type spray that has a Fungicide in it. By alternating with different types of fungicides, you kill more of the organisms and prevent them from building resistance.

Be careful when you use Sulfur because it can burn your plants above a certain temperature so make sure you follow the manufacturers instructions.

Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: Ken Bee on May 26, 2019, 12:35:18 AM
Hi Simon,

Your friend's mango trees look so green and healthy.  Are those trees protected over the winter or exposed? 

Ken
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: hellosf on May 31, 2019, 12:34:22 AM
Simon - Approximately how old are many of the larger trees in the photos?

Thanks!
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: gozp on May 31, 2019, 12:40:13 AM
Im surprised how my LZ is performing well, despite not being prolific here.

I intend to let LZ hold fruits as much as it wants. I also intend to stunt it -- life's short.
(https://i.postimg.cc/K4Gc0TMf/20190530-154049.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K4Gc0TMf)
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on May 31, 2019, 01:33:38 PM
My friends trees are unprotected. I’ll have to ask him how old his larger trees are.

Gozp, LZ is an excellent grower here, even on Florida rootstock. Letting it hold fruit should be fine because it often gets infected with Powdery Mildew and drops the fruit anyways.

I use Dr Yanemotos approach and once a tree is established, I allow it to ripen one fruit for every 40-80 leaves on the tree which I just average to about 60 leaves per fruit. This factors in that Mangos grow slower here and dwarf varieties will need more leaves.

Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: gozp on May 31, 2019, 01:39:21 PM
Hi simon this is on a manila rootstock &looking forward with this one.

Thanks for sharing the infos to us, growers.

I will continue to update in a month or so.
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on August 21, 2019, 08:12:26 PM
Here are some updated pictures of my friends Mango trees.
Kesar

(https://i.postimg.cc/5QFDDdWB/762-BB2-AC-7-F69-48-B0-98-AB-D49-D3-E475982.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5QFDDdWB)

Jumbo Kesar
(https://i.postimg.cc/7CWs4sVm/3-E5-B5-D1-C-B78-F-4-DA6-ABFA-A50-B456-EFE49.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7CWs4sVm)
VP
(https://i.postimg.cc/3krnv5ft/8-C466-EBA-BF6-B-4912-986-B-ACB3-D405-E687.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3krnv5ft)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on August 21, 2019, 08:17:15 PM
Fruit Punch
(https://i.postimg.cc/8jYmjJWz/BAC147-FF-5-D7-E-4-A27-8125-45-F20-BEE0836.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8jYmjJWz)
Unknown Indian mango
(https://i.postimg.cc/7J6SLwZz/79-A6-E992-0898-45-FB-B641-CA24-CD601772.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7J6SLwZz)
Different Kesar
(https://i.postimg.cc/PLQDzPLZ/0526-FC73-A6-F7-440-A-AA89-2-FAE39236567.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PLQDzPLZ)
Unknown Indian Mango #2
(https://i.postimg.cc/N52rCN9Q/0-B24472-E-8835-4-CEC-995-C-CD7-DA7-E5-CA64.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N52rCN9Q)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on August 21, 2019, 08:20:51 PM
Large Sweet Tart
(https://i.postimg.cc/QBd8wt4c/694-C8-CFC-5398-47-A5-968-D-B1-F1-A441196-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QBd8wt4c)
Son Pari
(https://i.postimg.cc/HV1pH3vY/BBEC77-CE-822-C-4861-B347-D8-EE3-F52-D835.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HV1pH3vY)
PPK
(https://i.postimg.cc/189sVXZb/231-B13-D0-02-A9-4157-B7-C9-5-B6-F7-CDB5162.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/189sVXZb)
ValCarrie
(https://i.postimg.cc/nsWJW1Qt/0-E7-C2671-25-CF-4-A81-B666-CD5-D22463-F9-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nsWJW1Qt)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on August 21, 2019, 08:24:17 PM
Another Sweet Tart
(https://i.postimg.cc/qz7dpYXd/BFA1-DD69-658-F-4-AD5-9-AAF-FEA25-A0-F0-E8-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qz7dpYXd)
Sweet Tart on Ataulfo rootstock
(https://i.postimg.cc/bZ7XHvXz/13-D64123-D1-DC-400-E-A4-AD-E6083-A5-ACEAD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bZ7XHvXz)
Angie
(https://i.postimg.cc/MMYhSbnT/3-E358945-7-A0-C-4-BFE-9-FEF-84-F8-C6-BA2-DFF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MMYhSbnT)
Angie
(https://i.postimg.cc/rz8B9bHt/CD256-E8-B-C136-4516-930-D-3-C0211-FFD28-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rz8B9bHt)
Simin
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on August 21, 2019, 08:45:00 PM
Alphonso
(https://i.postimg.cc/QBm2LJ9M/50038-D87-A283-4822-B5-BD-1-C027-FE6-F281.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QBm2LJ9M)
Kesar
(https://i.postimg.cc/wyBS9RLQ/CF99-A84-F-538-F-44-E6-B7-F7-FCBBD760-F184.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wyBS9RLQ)
Sweet Tarts
(https://i.postimg.cc/LYh0cKFy/149-B4503-4-A54-4-A91-A361-E0-B64396-CBFD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LYh0cKFy)
Sweet Tart
(https://i.postimg.cc/HJ6hvWRc/5-B45-F318-4-C5-D-4137-81-FB-365-EEB4-B2-FBD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HJ6hvWRc)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: simon_grow on August 21, 2019, 08:46:55 PM
Sweet Tart
(https://i.postimg.cc/r0vg7DJm/6-C5-C3600-4437-49-F5-AF41-6-EAF09-D06-E62.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/r0vg7DJm)
Peggy
(https://i.postimg.cc/N9rk8gcw/CC97-ED2-B-B394-4-EA7-9-CA7-F79-D64-C0-FDD1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N9rk8gcw)
Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: Johnny Eat Fruit on August 21, 2019, 08:53:26 PM
Very nice Mangos Simon. In September you should be enjoying killer mangos. Your ST and PPK mango Trees looks excellent.

If you have a chance can you please post some photos of the actual trees from a more wide-angle view like your ST tree photo.

If you can tell us the rootstock of each grafted tree, when it was grafted and how long the rootstock has been in the ground would be helpful to ascertain growth rates hear in California on Non Turpentine rootstock. 

Thanks Man.  Looking Good. Your leading the way Brother.

Johnny
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: FruitFool on August 21, 2019, 10:08:42 PM
Nice photos, simon!
It would be interesting to know how
Big the jumbo kesar gets compared to the
Normal kesar. Please keep us posted.

-FruitFool
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: simon_grow on August 21, 2019, 10:22:51 PM
Those aren’t my Mangos or mango trees, those are from a friend. I don’t have all the info on these trees but I’ll provide any info I get on them.

There are many mislabeled Jumbo Kesar trees and we won’t know for sure if we have the real Jumbo Kesar until after a couple years of fruiting. We have supposed Jumbo Kesar from multiple sources including Dr. Ledesma.

Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: FruitFool on August 22, 2019, 12:26:36 AM
Thanks, simon.
I am hoping we will get atleast one real
jumbo kesar.

FruitFool
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: gozp on August 22, 2019, 12:35:36 AM
If im not mistaken Parson is Frank's seedling from Juliette not Julie.
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: Oolie on August 22, 2019, 12:54:19 AM
Excellent crop. Any idea how many years old the Kesar with the heavy crop is?
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering update
Post by: FV Fruit Freak on August 22, 2019, 01:10:14 AM
Here are (5) photos taken over this last weekend. We are probably two months behind south Florida in terms of flowering but of course, they had a very warm 2019 winter so I assume flowering is way down the further south you go.

All of the noted trees I have been grafted to Manila rootstock except Val-Carrie which is on Turpentine. These Trees have been in the ground on average about 2.5 years. Just for something different the last photo is of my eight-year-old Beaumont Macadamia Tree in Bloom.

Johnny

(https://i.postimg.cc/RNN8D4Xs/001-Sweet-Tart-Mango-on-Manila-4-12-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RNN8D4Xs)
Sweet Tart on Manila


(https://i.postimg.cc/ZWNQJjk6/002-Mallika-Mango-on-Manila-4-11-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZWNQJjk6)
Mallika on Manila Rootstock



(https://i.postimg.cc/HJChn5HR/003-Nam-Doc-Mai-4-Mango-on-Manila-4-14-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HJChn5HR)
Nam Doc Mai #4 on Manila


(https://i.postimg.cc/m1hdJyNz/004-Val-Carrie-Mango-on-Turpentine-4-14-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/m1hdJyNz)
Val-Carrie on Turpentine



(https://i.postimg.cc/nXq3yz7k/005-Coconut-Cream-Mango-on-Manila-4-14-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nXq3yz7k)
Coconut Cream on Manila

(https://i.postimg.cc/k6wJfqfM/006-Beaumont-Macadamia-4-12-2019.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6wJfqfM)
Beaumont Macadamia Tree

On the CRFG website it states Beaumont macadamia flowers are bright pink. Your flowers look white.
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: sc4001992 on August 22, 2019, 01:23:24 AM
Simon, can you tell me which rootstock would be stronger here, Ataulfo rootstock or Manilla rootstock ?
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: JF on August 23, 2019, 12:02:05 AM
If im not mistaken Parson is Frank's seedling from Juliette not Julie.

Your absolutely correct Gonz my mango from a Juliette seedling and it’s not being propagated for now
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: gozp on August 23, 2019, 12:24:58 AM
If im not mistaken Parson is Frank's seedling from Juliette not Julie.

Your absolutely correct Gonz my mango from a Juliette seedling and it’s not being propagated for now

What zill variety is comparable to Parson?
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: JF on August 23, 2019, 12:27:40 AM
If im not mistaken Parson is Frank's seedling from Juliette not Julie.

Your absolutely correct Gonz my mango from a Juliette seedling and it’s not being propagated for now

What zill variety is comparable to Parson?

A combination of M4 and PP. Good size fruit if you thin....2lb
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: gozp on August 23, 2019, 01:03:37 AM
If im not mistaken Parson is Frank's seedling from Juliette not Julie.

Your absolutely correct Gonz my mango from a Juliette seedling and it’s not being propagated for now

What zill variety is comparable to Parson?

A combination of M4 and PP. Good size fruit if you thin....2lb

Oh wow! When will u release this variety to the public?
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: JF on August 23, 2019, 05:50:06 PM
I have a few ppl growing them and testing in different locations in SoCal. I will release a few trees. This is a 2lb hanging on my mother tree. As I’ve mention it’s must be thin to reach its full size ......it clusters like crazy.
(https://i.postimg.cc/hhYh8mVy/12-FF556-F-9988-4688-BDDB-0-E5-CBC439-F25.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hhYh8mVy)

(https://i.postimg.cc/mPfDJGX7/B3-D38-DDD-71-E0-40-A0-A89-E-DF528-CB40650.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mPfDJGX7)
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: gozp on August 23, 2019, 05:53:44 PM
Any photos inside the fruit from previous years?

I hope u'll have them on the tastings. 😂
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: hawkfish007 on August 23, 2019, 05:54:20 PM
I have a few ppl growing them and testing in different locations in SoCal. I will release a few trees. This is a 2lb hanging on my mother tree. As I’ve mention it’s must be thin to reach its full size ......it clusters like crazy.
(https://i.postimg.cc/hhYh8mVy/12-FF556-F-9988-4688-BDDB-0-E5-CBC439-F25.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hhYh8mVy)

(https://i.postimg.cc/mPfDJGX7/B3-D38-DDD-71-E0-40-A0-A89-E-DF528-CB40650.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mPfDJGX7)

Impressive, please put me on the waitlist for the cultivar.
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: JF on August 23, 2019, 06:40:20 PM
Yes. It fruited heavy last year and found its mojo.

(https://i.postimg.cc/T5rDHqMX/F6-D54-E5-A-AA02-4163-BDC5-C6129-F00-E25-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/T5rDHqMX)
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: gozp on August 23, 2019, 06:57:25 PM
Yes. It fruited heavy last year and found its mojo.

(https://i.postimg.cc/T5rDHqMX/F6-D54-E5-A-AA02-4163-BDC5-C6129-F00-E25-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/T5rDHqMX)

Wow. Loooks yummmy
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: simon_grow on August 23, 2019, 09:18:49 PM
If im not mistaken Parson is Frank's seedling from Juliette not Julie.

Thanks for the correction!

Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: simon_grow on August 23, 2019, 09:46:01 PM
If im not mistaken Parson is Frank's seedling from Juliette not Julie.

Your absolutely correct Gonz my mango from a Juliette seedling and it’s not being propagated for now

Thanks for the info Frank, I can’t wait to taste that one.

Which rootstock performs better would depend on each specific location, soil, scion, etc...

Many people have the false assumption that all Manilla rootstocks are similar but they can be very different. The specific Manilla that I have been recommending for years is the LaVern Manilla that is available at many SoCal Nurseries.

I have found numerous rootstocks that perform as well or better than the LaVern Manilla but I still recommend this rootstock because of convenience and it’s long track record for performance here in SoCal. This rootstock is easy to find and even the smaller size trees are usually large enough to put on one or two grafts. You can easily put on a top cleft graft and a side gender lower down.

If you are not in immediate need of rootstocks for grafting, I highly recommend you plant out as many different mango seeds as possible. Plant seeds from both Monoembryonic and Polyembryonic varieties. By increasing the genetic diversity, you are giving yourself better odds of finding a particular rootstock that adapts better to your specific growing conditions.

Monoembryonic seedlings like Kent generally have a faster start and are better for stone grafting or faster grafting in general because typically only a single seedling will sprout and all the energy stored in the seed will go into that seedling. The girth of the new seedling is usually large enough for grafting as soon as the first set of leaves have fully expanded. For Monoembryonic rootstocks, Kent, VP, Haden and Tommy Atkins works really well.

Polyembryonic seedlings usually have several sprouts coming up from the seed and the girth of each seedling is smaller in diameter so the seedlings will need to be grown out for a longer period of time before they are large enough to graft.

Even though Monoembryonic seedlings reach a larger girth faster, I like polyembryonic seedlings because if you are able to select the clone, there is no need to graft. NDM, Sweet Tart, Orange Sherbet are all great polyembryonic rootstocks that grow fast once established.

With the experiments that Brad and I have been performing, we have found it better to graft the seedlings when they are about 2-3 feet tall and a high graft is better than a low graft unless you plan on keeping the tree in a pot or as a Bonsai.

The high graft seems to promote more vertical growth. When planting the seeds, it’s best to start them in tall pots.

Simon
Title: Re: SoCal mango flowering and fruit update
Post by: sc4001992 on August 24, 2019, 11:45:49 PM
Thanks Simon for the detailed info on the rootstock to use.