Thanks. I did the cracking and GA3 before and it worked okay one time and failed 2 other times after that. I threw some into a pot a month ago and I'll throw some more into pots since my seeds are 2 years old now. The inhibiting hormones are supposed to weather away, but the seeds were in the fridge so maybe that didn't happen. Well, if anyone grows a male tree, let me know. My old tree is producing all female flowers now and I'm planning to put a M. cerifera male next to it for pollen hoping it will work.