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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Tree Dieback??
« on: June 03, 2019, 03:36:53 PM »
i hv read an article by a german doctor stating that citrus historically learned to get along with very low P ratios, but they tend to have iron deficiency when having too much P.

if u have to overwinter them inside i can recommend a mix of 1/3 peat, 1/3 pine park and 1/3 perlite. since i read millets post to use this kind of mix (he did not say perlite, but some sand or equal stuff) my plants are doing fantastic. i can also recommend terracotta pots, if the weight isnt a problem for u.

when i experienced leaf drop, it was for 2 reasons. either the soil stood wet for too long (not a problem with millets mix anymore) or the temperature in the room was too high for the light we get in the winter.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Butterflies...
« on: June 03, 2019, 03:24:56 PM »
i will go with pvaldes way. i think it cant be coincidence that in europe, where ppl tend to work the organic way, are less serious pests than elsewhere.

but i also understand the opinion to sometimes help mother nature out, because its not very natural to plant citrus in pots anywhere u want, but i still think, even for these tasks the nature will find its way :D and no iam not a treehugger

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Butterflies...
« on: June 01, 2019, 05:27:28 PM »
lol the description of these caterpillars from laaz makes them look like nasty bad animals :D
i have no idea how many citrus plants u have, but putting some nets around the plants, just during the period the butterflies are laying their eggs,  is not a solution for you guys?? maybe at least around the small trees, if they have their size u have no chance anyway.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
« on: February 16, 2019, 05:18:46 AM »
radoslav u have the good info, thanks man
lets hope its available to buy soon... cant wait to have it. deeply pigmented fruits are always a must have for me.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
« on: February 15, 2019, 05:05:38 PM »
fantastic link thanks

the sun red cultivar looks interesting :) have u found a source to buy yet?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sanguinelli Blook Orange
« on: June 23, 2018, 05:05:19 PM »
I can only compare what we can buy in the stores here, never grown a blood orange myself and there the tarocco has the best flavor for me. I can also remember trying a cara cara once, it had a fancy taste but not a lot of juice. Also this march they sold sanguinelli or sanguinellos and they were delicious, but had a very thick rind. The funny thing is the flavor improvement when u pick organic over "normal" oranges, they are so delicious.
Moro is clearly the best for squeezing since its mostly juice. I drink only juice without flesh, i cant stand the aborted seeds and with moros i have almost no flesh to throw away, which on tarocco is the exact opposite.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: what deficiency please?
« on: June 02, 2018, 10:22:37 AM »
1 of my 2 plants, is showing a deficiency right now. i added NPK, Mg and trace elements.

Whenever i added MG it got a little better, but the new growth is still showing deficiency, but the older leaves got greener.

i now added Calcium nitrate, with 26CaO + 14,5N.

If it gets better now i know for myself, that it was either the CaO or the N, but i dont think its the N.

If not i know i have to add even more Mg.

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 ;D citruskiller inc.

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almost everything said here, the main reasons are the growth rate of the roots and also citrus absolutely doesnt like wet soil in the container, when its not rooted yet.. i can add another 4 trees to my "killed ones" list...

i already looked for new plants at tintori but with the new shop system they want almost 60€ shipping fee for 3 plants.. anyone any experience?

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Citrus General Discussion / Just brought them back outside
« on: April 07, 2018, 02:21:37 PM »
hey citrus folks, i just brought all my citrus outside again, kind of because its getting to warm inside during the days already,
rather than its already warm enough outside, but under my care they have adapted to a lot of uncomfortable conditions,
so they'll withstand that easily :D

all 5 overwintered ones had too big pots and have no leaves anyway, only 2 newly bought ones (persian lime & australian red finger lime) have leaves right now.

how do you other guys handle ur plants? did u bring them outside already or when have u planed to do so?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Watering Citrus
« on: April 04, 2018, 06:39:31 PM »
what millet says matches exactly with my experience, right now i could water my potted plants every day, when the sun is burning down.
i never overwatered a citrus in spring or summer, so i guess its not possible  :)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Grasshoppers
« on: February 28, 2018, 06:02:29 PM »
just read a little bit about grasshoppers and which animals like to eat them.
its stated that hedgehogs, shrews, moles, rats, martens, foxes, cats and boars like to eat them, even tho they are not specialized in them.
they also mention birds and spiders, as long as they are big enough, eat them.

the most interesting part was about the human beeing the biggest threat to them by fertilizing the fields, but its not statet which fertilizer is the most harmful.

i have no idea how and if u can use this info, but i wish u the best :D

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i know you are all growing citrus way longer than me, but for me i think the problem is constant overwatering my citruses. I now think that the size of the container is the most important factor, way more important than fertilizer or a good medium. I have 5 plants, and the 3 with the "highest" containers are losing the most leaves, 2 of them are naked, the other one got a few leaves left.
I really mean the height of the container, not the size, even though the size should be almost the same as the size of the rootstock.
whenever i planted a citrus in a way to big container it died ._.

I also think all this only applies when the soil temperature is less than 27°C (80°F) , what it definetely is in winter in my zone (19,5°C = 67,1°F for my pots).

but i could also be very wrong, iam not sure at all :)


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Mr Laaz we need that info, it can save trees from dieing :)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Problems with potted citrus
« on: October 09, 2017, 01:00:10 PM »
my plants are rootbound for sure. they lost all their leaves last winter, but most of the roots survived it, so at start of this season i had big rootballs with a stem and nothing more :)

i will take care of this problem right at the start next season.

from what u write it seems your trees stay outside in winter? here it gets way too cold for that, so in about 1 week i need to get them inside and they stay inside an unheated room at around 18-21°C with a south facing window. These conditions are not optimal but it worked for me.

winter here is hard to survive for my plants, so no changes before spring :)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Problems with potted citrus
« on: September 30, 2017, 01:59:09 PM »
iam still trying to get the perfect wet/try conditions for this new soil. i started using the peat/bark mix this year so for now iam trying to find out how often to water the trees, it was especially hard during the heatwaves this summer. meanwhile in the winter i let them dry out almost completely until the first leaf starts to dry out and then i water again, this worked very good for me so far, because the trees take no visual damage... i have also killed to many trees during winter, it hurts :>

i had one lemon in a terracota pot with the new soil and i had to water it every day and it still wasnt enough, so i repotted it into plastc... its crazy with all this over-\underwatering....today i watered my plants and soaked them deep, hope they are doing better with this method.

putting the pots on feet is great. with all the extra air getting to the soil from underneath its just perfect. i have also built myself an extra bench where all the excessive water can flow into buckets below it, because all i have is a balcony and i dont want to flood my neighbours more than necessary

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: new greenhouse planning
« on: September 16, 2017, 07:56:33 AM »
very nice work so far, now that is a real greenhouse, not the garbage amazon is selling :)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Problems with potted citrus
« on: September 12, 2017, 05:16:01 PM »
Susanne maybe i was a little inexact about the epsomsalts.i dont use
1 handfull per plant, i dissolved it in 6L water and watered my plants with it.

Thanks a lot to you Millet, theres no chance i would have found this out.
I replanted all plants, even the ones not showing the symptoms yet.
Iam happy i asked before the winter starts, i think repotting 1 month later
wouldn't have been so smooth, its getting darker and a little colder everyday.
Now i can only watch and feed them and iam pretty sure they'll do better by now

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Citrus General Discussion / Problems with potted citrus
« on: September 11, 2017, 01:42:18 PM »
Hi
I have some problems with my potted trees and after reading too much threads about magnesium or manganese deficiency and other problems with citrus iam really not sure anymore whats wrong with them, maybe someone of you could have a short look and tell it within a few seconds....
My problem is that i have yellow dots on my leaves and its affecting 3 of my 5 citrus plants. 2 affected are c.limons and 1 i believe to be a c.limonimedica.

They've got small yellow dots all over the new growth mainly, but its slowly spreading to the older leaves also, could it be lack of micronutrients?
You see it best on the last pic, but when u stand in front of them u can see it more clearly than on most of the pics, iam sorry.

1 c.limon



2 c.limon (this one maybe also a little underwatered. i was careful because i repotted it 1 month ago)




3 believed to be c.limonimedica





They've all been fed with:

16-3-8 NPK only fertilizer
Epsomsalts 1 hand 1x or 2x per month
1x with micronutrients (Cu: 0,50% Zn: 0,41%  Mn: 0,50%  Fe: 1,44%  Mo: 0,06%)

The soil is 50%peat, 25%pine bark, 25%lava mulch

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better think about it before u forget it :(

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Second Citrus bloom?
« on: July 27, 2017, 02:45:03 PM »
hello iam the new one and iam also interessted in susanne's question, so i googled and what i found was this

http://irrec.ifas.ufl.edu/flcitrus/pdfs/short_course_and_workshop/citrus_flowering_97/Davies-Overview_of_Climatic_Effects.pdf

In the summary it says, "Climate has a dramatic effect on flowering and fruit quality of citrus". But in the pdf theres plenty more information about this. Still iam asking myself if i will ever be able to produce an "acceptable" fruit quality here in my climate, in austria, vienna, which is about climate zone 6-7, but iam not entirely sure.

does anybody have any thoughts about this topic for susanne and me?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: July 06, 2017, 02:19:50 PM »
Hello everyone,

I have been reading here for too long without an account, but theres so much interessting stuff so I decided to finally register.
Iam from Austria and so far i only grow 5 citrus plants in containers, with not that much success, but iam trying to learn from what Millet and others write and it seems to get better with every step i do like Millet says ^^

I also grow some other fruits and vegetables but for me citrus is the most interessting, because i thought it would be way more easy to get them growing in my climate, oh boy was i wrong....

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