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Tropical fruits like atemoya and nam doc mai are expensive over here. Carrefour sells them at $13/kilo in Dubai and other Gulf region.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When is sugar apple seeds a dud?
« on: December 15, 2017, 12:31:33 AM »
I bought some sugar apple seeds from a playa on this forum. My father in-law planted them about 5-6 weeks ago. None has germinated yet. We're in southern California.

Anyway, I went out to the local Carrefour and bought one custard apple. The store labels it as custard apple, but I think it's an atemoya. I will get the seeds from it and send it home. Tropical fruits like atemoya and nam doc mai are like $13/kilo.   

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya prices skyrocketing
« on: December 08, 2017, 11:35:46 AM »
Here in Dubai, Carrefour is selling atemoya for $12.30/kilo or $5.55/lbs. Too rich for a lot of people here.

Banana plants are a very versatile eating plants. You could eat the flower, unripen fruits, the heart, and the rhizomes. In Vietnam, there's a type of banana that people use to cook super exotic dishes out of it. I used to have one, but it killed by one cold winter in Georgia. I will try to find another one when I return home.

Vietnam also has this wild banana that people use to make heavy liquor out of it. Man, that thing is good and very potent. Very sweet favor. When my dad goes to Vietnam next year, I am going to have him smuggled some rhizomes to the US.

I think some of the Vietnamese forum members should have some of those bananas here.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any information on soncoya???
« on: November 05, 2017, 01:43:59 AM »
How do you guys manage to buy tropical plants from these CRFG folks? I checked their webpage, but there's nothing on it. It has mostly pictures of some old folkies and their trees and fruits. Thanks!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« on: November 01, 2017, 05:25:30 PM »
Awesome. I also got some seeds from him. My dad is seeding it now using the same method. Thanks.

What my dad does with the sugar apple seeds is to test its buoyancy. If the seeds are buoyant, then it won't germinate.

Pretty awesome! Here is my question. Can soncoya survive the Southern California's winter weather? Thanks!


I have two varieties of plantains-Saba and Hua moa. Nothing in particular, we just like them for starch and dessert. I also have some Thai and violet ornamental bananas. I am planting a lot of this Musa Velutina for privacy purposes.

Thanks for information. I will give that a try.

Avocado trees also piss me off. I have a big old tree planted by the previous owner. It has no flower for years. So, I went out and bought another one. Don't know how long that one will produce fruits either.

Cut it off low to the ground and graft to selected shoots that arise.  Did this last year and now have 9 fine fruit hanging on a Holiday, Sir Prize and Ardith.  I dropped quite a few too after bloom set and all of the Pinkertons.

Being that you already have a very extensive root system you'll quickly have a new vigorous tree that will set a lot of fruit quickly.

Sir Prize fruit, August.

Avocado trees also piss me off. I have a big old tree planted by the previous owner. It has no flower for years. So, I went out and bought another one. Don't know how long that one will produce fruits either.

Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Galangal
« on: October 20, 2017, 03:00:10 AM »
Galangal is easy. Just stick it into the ground and give it some mulch and plenty of water. I love galangal.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Vietnamese sugar apple
« on: October 19, 2017, 01:35:50 AM »

My in-law just received your seeds. He's planting it as we speak. I am looking forward to some success and fruiting. Thanks!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Birula vs Lisa
« on: October 18, 2017, 08:03:49 PM »

I have seen it with fruits in Orange County and San Diego. Also in the inland areas too.

Wow looks tasty. I've never eaten a atemoya do they grow well in southern California?

I asked the same question awhile back. The consensus is no. I am thinking to plant the Javan plum instead, but that is a nasty plant. What I meant is it is too bushy.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Is It Too Late To Germinate Illama Seeds?
« on: October 16, 2017, 01:33:51 AM »
So, I bought some illama seeds from Raul Ruiz. I am wondering if it is too late to germinate seeds? I bought GA-3 acid to help with germination too. I am having my dad to germinate these seeds. If it's too late to germinate, can I store them over the winter? I am from Southern California.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnames sugar apple
« on: October 12, 2017, 01:47:22 AM »
I also bought some seeds from RichardN. Hope it will germinate.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnames sugar apple
« on: October 11, 2017, 03:01:07 AM »
They are. There's a bunch of them Vietnamese people in my area who are growing atemoya instead of sugar apple.

I had tasted many varieties of Sugar apple, and they're only have one flavor: sweet and very sweet. For the first time (last week), I tasted a Atemoya (Geffner), all I can say is that I haven't tasted any SA that even come close to it, more fragrance with some acidity. I hope Vietnamese people spread the words and start to plant more Atemoya.

This is a dumb question, but how do you measure or estimate something to be 350 ppm? I just bought some acid with a tiny spoon. My dad is gonna germinate these seeds.


I sprouted 3 different types of Ilama with 350 ppm ga3 soak for 24 hours. Most or all popped up in two weeks or so. I wouldn't try sprouting these without it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava season in Socal
« on: October 06, 2017, 01:38:54 AM »
It is definitely guava season. My wife showed me a couple pix of the guava in our backyard. They look wonderful. They're of unknown varieties-possibly Mexican, Thai, and Thai seedless or less seed. Makes me missing home.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Where Can I Find Sour Averrhoa Carambola?
« on: October 05, 2017, 04:01:14 AM »
To All My Tropical Fruit Extraordinaire/Expert,

Where can I find sour version of Averrhoa carambola, starfruit? My dad loves sour starfruit for Asian fish sour soup, but can't find it anywhere. I am wondering if any of y'all experts knows where to find it.


My Ziziphus mauritiana died on me. I wasn't home to find out, but I thought those were very hardy. Here in Qatar, they are growing wild everywhere.

A good mixture of Tengard SFR with surfactant works for me.  If you have to use chemical insecticide, buy commercial grade chemicals. I like Tengard and Nyguard (surfactant) because they work fast. Tempo SC and others are good for termites, cockroaches, etc., but they are slow killer. I like to see insects dying in front of me.   

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Top 10 Anona Fruits You've Never Heard Of
« on: September 28, 2017, 09:41:55 AM »
This is a pretty cool video. Make me wanna buy land in the PI (Taygaytay area) and retire there.

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