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Giant Abiu in Brazil
« on: August 09, 2017, 07:07:38 PM »
Found this Abiu cultivar of "Frutas Raras" in Brazil. The fruit is huge and the biggest Abiu I've seen. It only has 1 seed.



Their facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/FrutasRaras.1

They called it "Abiu Gigante do Solimões". They've also been selling seeds.
I tried contacting them to ask about it but had no luck, no reply.

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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2017, 07:16:55 PM »
It isn't that big at all and might only be say 600g.Spherical types get bigger. Search on the forum for z4,e4 and others and pics of them I have posted.For some reason the 1kg plus abius cant be found in Brazil.

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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2017, 07:43:31 PM »
It isn't that big at all and might only be say 600g.Spherical types get bigger. Search on the forum for z4,e4 and others and pics of them I have posted.For some reason the 1kg plus abius cant be found in Brazil.

You're correct Mike! I've done some searching. There are even bigger Abiu fruits (from your posts in the past).
« Last Edit: August 10, 2017, 02:34:00 AM by sytanta »

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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2017, 08:17:24 AM »

I tried contacting them to ask about it but had no luck, no reply.

In Facebook, seek for Adhemar Gomes. He is the owner of "Frutas raras". But be advised: the prices are high...

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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2017, 08:42:02 AM »
Just to illustrate the really good abius are spherical and big,




The good types also have no brown staining, don't brown much when cut, low latex and only one or two seeds.



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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2017, 09:24:14 AM »
These vars exists in Brasil, but to my knowledge they are very rare. I never found them in any markets... Well, to be precise,  I found them just one time. But not so big.
Do you have them Mike? The tree I mean.

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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2017, 09:40:06 AM »
In Facebook, seek for Adhemar Gomes. He is the owner of "Frutas raras". But be advised: the prices are high...

Thanks Cassio for the warning. I've had no reply from him so far, lucky !?

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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2017, 09:42:30 AM »
Just to illustrate the really good abius are spherical and big,




The good types also have no brown staining, don't brown much when cut, low latex and only one or two seeds.



Your Abiu fruit size is very impressive! Couldn't find in anywhere that people have such big Abiu fruits.

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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2017, 11:01:39 AM »
One of the best Abiu cultiver in Taiwan is called Jiu Da. It can weigh as much as 1.5kg!

Here is the introduction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo1Pr_0dYNw

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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2017, 12:24:51 PM »
One of the best Abiu cultiver in Taiwan is called Jiu Da. It can weigh as much as 1.5kg!

Here is the introduction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo1Pr_0dYNw

Cool huge cultivar! I wish he would have cut open the fruit to see how its latex looked like.

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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2017, 04:08:45 PM »
any chance of getting seeds to any of these good ones shipped to the US?

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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2017, 04:12:33 PM »
One of the best Abiu cultiver in Taiwan is called Jiu Da. It can weigh as much as 1.5kg!

Here is the introduction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo1Pr_0dYNw
Any chance of getting seeds of the spezific cultivar ?
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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2017, 04:22:44 PM »
He did cut it and if it isn't a z4 or z3 I will eat my hat.

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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2017, 04:23:36 PM »
Make that z2 and they don't look that large in hand.

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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2017, 01:58:44 AM »
This guy is a very famous breeder in Taiwan. He introduced hundreds of rare fruits from all over the world.

He mentioned in the film that the new cultivar was selected from around 20~30 seedlings and has been grafted to other trees to see how the characteristics can be maintained. After three years all of the grafted trees show the following facts and proved to be commercial ready:
1. >600g per fruit
2. >100 fruits per tree
3. snow white flesh and will not turn brown or "watery"
4. fruit won't split in case of rain or other weather conditions
5. round shape to meet customer's likes

The name "Jiu Da" means "The fruits will last long and big"! Shelf life claimed to be 8~12 days. Many orchards in southern Taiwan started production two years ago and the fruits can be bought in the market.

In some area of Taiwan they fruit 2~3 times a year!

Grafting may be the only way to reproduce the same characteristics, so seeds won't help.

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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2017, 02:44:21 AM »
This guy is a very famous breeder in Taiwan. He introduced hundreds of rare fruits from all over the world.


Cool guy with great passion for rare fruits! Some breeders in Japan are awesome too. I've found a website that sells pretty many species:

http://worldplantsmarket.com

Not sure if they sell internationally.

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Re: Giant Abiu in Brazil
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2017, 03:29:34 PM »
This guy is a very famous breeder in Taiwan. He introduced hundreds of rare fruits from all over the world.

He mentioned in the film that the new cultivar was selected from around 20~30 seedlings and has been grafted to other trees to see how the characteristics can be maintained. After three years all of the grafted trees show the following facts and proved to be commercial ready:
1. >600g per fruit
2. >100 fruits per tree
3. snow white flesh and will not turn brown or "watery"
4. fruit won't split in case of rain or other weather conditions
5. round shape to meet customer's likes

The name "Jiu Da" means "The fruits will last long and big"! Shelf life claimed to be 8~12 days. Many orchards in southern Taiwan started production two years ago and the fruits can be bought in the market.

In some area of Taiwan they fruit 2~3 times a year!

Grafting may be the only way to reproduce the same characteristics, so seeds won't help.
Good explanation !
Mike

 

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