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Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« on: August 12, 2017, 08:25:35 AM »
Do youthink that this would make a great 2 variety tree? Also any reason it would be a bad idea? Thanks.
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Re: Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2017, 08:53:05 AM »
No problem with doing it.  IMO, get rid of the NDM totally and either make it all Mahachanok or half Mah and half something else.
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Re: Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2017, 09:23:54 AM »
Yikes! I had high hopes for the NMD. I get that it is not a complex mango. Would you say the NDM is as basic as an Ataulfo?

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Re: Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2017, 09:31:25 AM »
Yikes! I had high hopes for the NMD. I get that it is not a complex mango. Would you say the NDM is as basic as an Ataulfo?

Hard to compare a home grown NDM with a grocery store commercial Ataulfo.  You will get some NDM supporters here but the Maha is like a very improved version of it.
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Re: Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2017, 09:38:32 AM »
Keep your NDM on at least one branch so you can see if you like it. It's not one of my favorites but it is a good versatile mango. The best mango is usually the one I have in my hand. But Taste is very subjective... And you will learn that Mr. BSBullie is quite opinionated though very knowledgable :D

Just to get under someone's skin, I think you could graft Carrie to your NDM/Maha tree...
Pickering would also be a good possible 3rd type. Both of these are not super vigorous, more compact  and easy to maintain along with the NDM and Maha.

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Re: Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2017, 09:54:40 AM »
Keep your NDM on at least one branch so you can see if you like it. It's not one of my favorites but it is a good versatile mango. The best mango is usually the one I have in my hand. But Taste is very subjective... And you will learn that Mr. BSBullie is quite opinionated though very knowledgable :D

Just to get under someone's skin, I think you could graft Carrie to your NDM/Maha tree...
Pickering would also be a good possible 3rd type. Both of these are not super vigorous, more compact  and easy to maintain along with the NDM and Maha.

Ha 😛😅😜👍

I did say "IMO" so if you truly like NDM over others, than keep it.

While I wohld never grow it for myself, I know and understand that many really like/love Carrie (and as crazy as I feel these people are) I have no problem with it.  If I sold fruit, I would frow it for the cash crop value.

Others you could consider topworking: Fairchild and Pina Colada
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Re: Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2017, 10:26:32 AM »
So I have an Angie. May be a Angie/Mah/NDM since all 3 are rather compact growers? Thoughts. I do have a pina colada and coco cream that I can put together as well. Just trying to make room.

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Re: Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2017, 10:34:19 AM »
Yes, I think Angie would work fine also. Has it fruited in your yard or have you tasted it? I have one planted because its supposed to be similar to Carrie or an "improved" Carrie. I really can't imagine any improvement in Carrie...

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Re: Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2017, 10:39:30 AM »
So I have an Angie. May be a Angie/Mah/NDM since all 3 are rather compact growers? Thoughts. I do have a pina colada and coco cream that I can put together as well. Just trying to make room.

Personally, I would keep Angie seperate due to it's scab issues.

Definitely keep Coconut Cream by itself due to it's growth habit

Depending on what NDM you really have, it may be slow growing but it will nit stay small without pruning.  Same really for the Maha.  They would go well together along with Fairchild.

If you like Angie, you will most likely also like Carrie and Ugly Betty, both which could be on the same tree.
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Re: Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2017, 10:45:09 AM »
No fruits on Angie. The NDM is a NDM #5. I may do the NDM/Mah combo. You think Angie on a Peach Cobbler?
Well lets see here.. lets simplify this a bit...

Nam DOc Mai
Maha
Peach Cobbler
Valencia Pride
Pina Colada
CoCo Cream
Kathy
Lemon Zest
Angie

How would you pair these? Thanks....

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Re: Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2017, 10:54:38 AM »
No fruits on Angie. The NDM is a NDM #5. I may do the NDM/Mah combo. You think Angie on a Peach Cobbler?
Well lets see here.. lets simplify this a bit...

Nam DOc Mai
Maha
Peach Cobbler
Valencia Pride
Pina Colada
CoCo Cream
Kathy
Lemon Zest
Angie

How would you pair these? Thanks....

So you arent looking to add but instead, combine?

You are its a #5?  I question any numbers unless you knew the source of the budwood/ tree it came from.  I have seen too many assumptions that everyone is propagating and selling #4...
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Re: Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2017, 11:50:28 AM »
I think it's a #4. I need to see the tag. I got it from a local nursery. I did not graft it myself. Supposedly its the dwarf nam doc mai version of the larger tree. I am trying to condense trees to make more space.

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Re: Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2017, 12:53:12 PM »
I'd graft my MC or Pickering on to my NDM (#4) if I could. I'm lousy at grafting. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then give up and do something else.

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Re: Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2017, 01:05:42 PM »
Don't give up buddy. Keep trying. May be it is the tools you are using and not necessarily you. Some have better luck with Buddy Tape vs Parafilm, others use a knife such as a craft knife others use a straight edge razor. Be patient and take your time. Now it is a good time to learn since its summer.




Don't give up buddy. Keep trying. May be it is the tools you are using and not necessarily you. Some have better luck with Buddy Tape vs Parafilm, others use a knife such as a craft knife others use a straight edge razor. Be patient and take your time. Now it is a good time to learn since its summer.

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Re: Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2017, 01:25:27 PM »
I think it's a #4. I need to see the tag. I got it from a local nursery. I did not graft it myself. Supposedly its the dwarf nam doc mai version of the larger tree. I am trying to condense trees to make more space.

Its not a dwarf.  Its a slower grower at younger age but will still get up in size.  Mine was on a dwarfing rootstock,  even with pruning it was between 15 - 20 feet at 6 years of age.
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Re: Grafting a Maha Chanok to a Nam Doc Mai
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2017, 02:38:14 PM »
I just grafted a few branches of Maha to my NDM a few weeks ago. I got another branch grafted with Pina colada.
The majority of the tree is NDM still, its one of my biggest trees and it's in the front yard so I don't want to completely top work it as it looks really nice.

I agree that Maha is better though. I like NDM but I don't think I like it enough to have a whole tree.



 

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