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Euginias, Grumichama, Pitomba, rio grande cherry
« on: September 26, 2017, 04:47:06 PM »
Is anyone growing these inland or in the desert?  Been waiting to put them in the ground but worried they will not be able to take full sun.  The surinam cherry seems ok in fjll sun here, I have a grumichama, putomba and rio grand cherry that need to be planted.  How much dry heat can they take?
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Re: Euginias, Grumichama, Pitomba, rio grande cherry
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2017, 05:49:46 PM »
Surinam cherry does fine for me in full sun but grumichama suffers in high heat and full sun. Also cherry of the Rio grande seems like it likes cooler weather, it also suffered in high heat and full sun here

Both Grumichama and CORG might benefit from partial shade in high temps.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2017, 05:59:20 PM by Zpusher »

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Re: Euginias, Grumichama, Pitomba, rio grande cherry
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2017, 10:39:28 PM »
I would protect them for the first years with a shade cloth or plant them below other trees... they will grow much happier, and water a lot.

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Re: Euginias, Grumichama, Pitomba, rio grande cherry
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2017, 11:20:53 PM »
Slightly off topic...
Has anyone found a sure fire cure for Eugenia seedling yellowing?
I tried ph adjustments, fertilizers, sulfur, iron chelates, etc.
For me... it seems to hit Grumichamas most often... though all of my other Eugenia species as well.
Identical plants in identical soil, pots, amendments etc.
See by side... one will be perfectly green and healthy and the other will have yellowish leaves.
Seems to effect young plants more than mature plants.
Thanks for any input.

Kevin


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Re: Euginias, Grumichama, Pitomba, rio grande cherry
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2017, 11:28:27 PM »
I don't have an answer Kevin, but would add that for some reason I am not very good at keeping potted plants happy.  They always seem to decline while in ground plants seem to do well for me.  Maybe the pots get too hot or water is too high PH or something?  Im just not good at it.  If anyone has suggestions to keeping potted plants happy let me know.  This is the reason I want to get plants in ground asap.
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Re: Euginias, Grumichama, Pitomba, rio grande cherry
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2017, 02:01:05 AM »
I am glad that Spaugh brought up this topic. I am also curious about grumichama, Barbados cherry, etc., growing in California. I will give them a try in a few months. 

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Re: Euginias, Grumichama, Pitomba, rio grande cherry
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2017, 05:02:19 AM »
Slightly off topic...
Has anyone found a sure fire cure for Eugenia seedling yellowing?
I tried ph adjustments, fertilizers, sulfur, iron chelates, etc.
For me... it seems to hit Grumichamas most often... though all of my other Eugenia species as well.
Identical plants in identical soil, pots, amendments etc.
See by side... one will be perfectly green and healthy and the other will have yellowish leaves.
Seems to effect young plants more than mature plants.
Thanks for any input.

Kevin

I grew yellow grumichama one year in full sun and they were all yellow, last year I grew several
grumichama in indirect sunlight and they are dark green, I put one pot out in an area that would get
4-5 hours of morning sun and it turned yellow. I put it back in the shade and it is still yellow.
I have 4 grumichama trees planted in my yard in direct sunlight, Two trees are over 6' tall and one
is noticeably more green then the other. They both produce heavy crops of yellow fruit, The other two
are smaller trees and one is very green and the other keeps having die off and struggles.
If I could start over I would plant grumichama in a shaded area, I have 2 COR planted in full sun and they
have very different leaves, One tree is over 8' feet tall and very green. They other is a young tree that I
recently planted in the ground and time will tell. I have a very nice dark green pitomba in my yard that is
pushing 6 feet and very bushy, it had hundreds of fruit this year. I have two others in pots that get 4-5
hours of morning sun and are yellowish green and seem to struggle? I have noticed Eugenia vary allot
on how much sun they can handle with each individual plant. It does seem that all seedlings do better in
indirect light. I planted 5 Zills black Surinam cherries and the one on the end got more direct light and it
grew much slower and fruits much less then the other 4 trees.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2017, 05:14:47 AM by achetadomestica »

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Re: Euginias, Grumichama, Pitomba, rio grande cherry
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2017, 08:11:51 AM »
I agree with achetadomestica, they neet indirect light when young and to correct yellow leaves I use chelated iron (and shade!)