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Kevin Jones

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Grafting Suriname Cherries
« on: April 03, 2019, 11:42:52 PM »
I want to start trying to graft my Black Star Suriname Cherry onto some Black Star seedlings and I was hoping someone could share some of their experience... as I have never grafted before.



I've done some research and watched a lot of Youtube videos but was wondering if there was any technique particular to Eugenias that I might consider.



I bought a grafting kit from Amazon and thought I could use it:




My mother plant is getting huge and somewhat burdensome to handle so I thought I could prune and graft at the same time.

Thank you.

Kevin


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Re: Grafting Suriname Cherries - Advice?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2019, 12:30:08 AM »
Those grafting kits I feel are fine for hardwood scions such as apples but for softwood scions like sugar apples and mangos they arent sharp enough to make a clean cut and causes damage around the cut... if I would describe it it's like trying to amputee an arm with a blunt machete and trying to reattach said arm back all that damage to the flesh is no bueno.

Watching many videos on grafting on YouTube was very helpful lining up the cambium, ensuring your tools are clean to prevent infection, ensuring scions are wrapped in parafilm or buddy tape to retain moisture, and in my opinion one of the most important tools is a very sharp knife in which you use just for grafting.

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Re: Grafting Suriname Cherries - Advice?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2019, 12:46:29 AM »
I have the one similar to yours and this https://www.amazon.com/Homend-Pruning-Grafting-Aluminum-Diameter/dp/B07CNWXFQJ/ref=sr_1_29?keywords=Garden+Grafting+Tools&qid=1554352655&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-29 . I used the second tool to graft 6 cherry scions and 3 Ilimas and Arka Sahans in January, all took a 100% success and I am new to grafting. Grafted NDM#4 scions on Manila using the tool today and I am very hopeful because the cuts were clean, not sure if nightly lows of 50s would be an adverse factor or not.

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Re: Grafting Suriname Cherries - Advice?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2019, 01:08:09 AM »
Cleft, saddle and whip have all worked for me. The tool is overkill and probably won't work.
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Re: Grafting Suriname Cherries - Advice?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2019, 06:52:20 AM »
I recently grafted using a wedge graft and thin scions. Mostly around 2mm thick. They are beginning to push now.

Use a sharp razor blade or grafting knife to make the cuts.

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Re: Grafting Suriname Cherries - Advice?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2019, 10:38:53 AM »
Eugenias have been pretty easy to graft relatively speaking -- they take pretty easily with standard whip or cleft grafts.  Just make sure you have a thin sharp knife or grafting tool because if it's not super sharp the wood sort of disintegrates.

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Re: Grafting Suriname Cherries - Advice?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2019, 10:59:21 AM »
I agree with Barath, you need a shape knife and make sure your plant that your grafting to is in a growth mode! I used whip & tongue graft but other type should work too!

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Re: Grafting Suriname Cherries - Advice?
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2019, 11:08:09 AM »
^^^ what Barath said
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Re: Grafting Suriname Cherries - Advice?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2019, 12:56:23 PM »
Green wood OK?

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Re: Grafting Suriname Cherries - Advice?
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2019, 08:58:16 AM »
The transition area below green seems to work well for me.

Here is a pic of my graft. Seedling is in 1 gal about 10 months old. grafted section is about 2mm thick.

Green wood OK?

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Re: Grafting Suriname Cherries - Advice?
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2019, 05:00:48 PM »
Thank you for the insight Nana!

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Re: Grafting Suriname Cherries - Advice?
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2019, 12:16:28 PM »
Well... I attempted to graft 15 Black Star scions onto 3 year old root stock this weekend.
I must say my skill seemed to improve as I went along.
I emulated/modified Adam Shafron's technique from his YouTube video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYY8FGZp8SE

I noticed something I thought interesting later that evening.
Some of the scions were weeping drops of water along the overlapping edges of the grafting tape.
Not at the point of grafting... but further up the scion.
Perhaps where the leaves had been removed???
I'm hoping this mean capillary action is occurring and the scions are taking up water.
Also... I tried the grafting tool above and found it worked fine provided the rootstock and the scion were at least 1/4 inch in diameter.

Thanks for any input!

Kevin



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