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Title: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Guanabanus on April 05, 2012, 09:11:58 PM
Which mango varieties are earliest this year?  We have had several strange winters lately!

Today, at Truly Tropical, I ate 'Tess' and 'Rosa,' both of which had their first tree-ripened fruits of this season the last week of March.

I like 'Rosa' a lot, because I grew up eating it in northern Brazil, and because I like really strong-tasting mangos.

I had never had 'Tess' before today.  It is thought to be a hybrid of 'Carrie' with 'Turpentine.'  Because I like strong-tasting mangos, 'Carrie''s flavor, and fiber-free texture and thin edible skin win hands-down with me, BUT THERE AREN'T ANY 'CARRIE' RIPE NOW, and probably won't be for another month!

'Tess' has several obvious advantages:  Very Early, Heavy Production, Bright Yellow Color, Firm Texture, and thick Tough Skin.  Its flavor is good enough, milder than 'Carrie', with some tartness.  It does have fiber, but no worse than a 'Haden.'

No trees are currently available for sale, but she is selling the fruit.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Squam256 on April 05, 2012, 09:35:55 PM
I have never had Tess or Rosa. They sound interesting though.

Pretty sure some members here have Rosigolds getting close.

In Jupiter I saw Edward fruit that was starting to color up. This was from the November bloom.

I got what I believe is a  mature 'Zill' fruit the other day from a tree in West Palm:

(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss235/Squam256/Fruit%20album/P1010465.jpg)


Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: DuncanYoung on April 05, 2012, 10:24:30 PM
My favorite, 'Edward"  From November bloom.
(http://s15.postimage.org/62tmwxryv/IMG_0398.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/62tmwxryv/)
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: bsbullie on April 05, 2012, 11:10:03 PM
Which mango varieties are earliest this year?  We have had several strange winters lately!

Today, at Truly Tropical, I ate 'Tess' and 'Rosa,' both of which had their first tree-ripened fruits of this season the last week of March.

I like 'Rosa' a lot, because I grew up eating it in northern Brazil, and because I like really strong-tasting mangos.

I had never had 'Tess' before today.  It is thought to be a hybrid of 'Carrie' with 'Turpentine.'  Because I like strong-tasting mangos, 'Carrie''s flavor, and fiber-free texture and thin edible skin win hands-down with me, BUT THERE AREN'T ANY 'CARRIE' RIPE NOW, and probably won't be for another month!

'Tess' has several obvious advantages:  Very Early, Heavy Production, Bright Yellow Color, Firm Texture, and thick Tough Skin.  Its flavor is good enough, milder than 'Carrie', with some tartness.  It does have fiber, but no worse than a 'Haden.'

No trees are currently available for sale, but she is selling the fruit.
What is Rosa like, taste and texture ?
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on April 05, 2012, 11:32:24 PM
pickerings are about 2-3weeks away they are almost full size and begining to blush...but only one tree I  have in a pot is so early...so it may not count or qualify for applying to what you're asking.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: zands on April 06, 2012, 07:02:10 AM
from Truly Tropical blog/website--
http://delraymango.blogspot.com/ (http://delraymango.blogspot.com/)

FRIDAY, MARCH 30, 2012

Fruit for Tomorrow...
We will be open tomorrow, March 31, from 9am until noon.
This morning I spotted a few ripe mangos, so I'll pick those for sale tomorrow. Quantity and selection are EXTREMELY limited. It looked like the only trees with ripe mangos were Rosa and Dwarf Hawaiian.
Also we will have some Caimito (Star Apple) available.

Truly Tropical
2750 Seacrest Blvd.
Delray Beach, FL
561-278-7754

*************I am surprised no one has gotten (bought?) bud wood from TT and been grafting these early trees for sale. Is Tess the same as Dwarf Hawaiian?
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Jackfruitwhisperer69 on April 06, 2012, 07:48:59 AM
Hi Guanabanus,

I luv Rosa mango ;D ;D ;D  It has a nice spicy flavour! YUMMY ;D

I order a grafted Rosa mango at the Governmental nursery here! 
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: HMHausman on April 06, 2012, 07:53:30 AM
I've never tried Rosa or Tess either.  I have no Rosigolds from the November bloom.  Closest for me are Extrema and Thai Everbearing with a possible Edward sneaking into the mix.  But I am still a ways off from actually eating a mango this season from my yard.

Harry
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: SWRancher on April 06, 2012, 08:03:47 AM
I have Rosigolds that are only a week or two away from being ready. My Edwards still have a long way to go they are just the size of large olives. 

Tony   
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Jackfruitwhisperer69 on April 06, 2012, 08:26:46 AM
Rosa is similar to Palmer mango in taste!(My opinion)

(http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd365/Moonshadow69/untitled.png)

Harry- how's the disease resistance on Extrema?
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: adiel on April 06, 2012, 09:13:13 AM
I have Glenn and Rosigold but they are still far from being ready.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: bsbullie on April 06, 2012, 09:29:07 AM
from Truly Tropical blog/website--
http://delraymango.blogspot.com/ (http://delraymango.blogspot.com/)

FRIDAY, MARCH 30, 2012

Fruit for Tomorrow...
We will be open tomorrow, March 31, from 9am until noon.
This morning I spotted a few ripe mangos, so I'll pick those for sale tomorrow. Quantity and selection are EXTREMELY limited. It looked like the only trees with ripe mangos were Rosa and Dwarf Hawaiian.
Also we will have some Caimito (Star Apple) available.

Truly Tropical
2750 Seacrest Blvd.
Delray Beach, FL
561-278-7754

*************I am surprised no one has gotten (bought?) bud wood from TT and been grafting these early trees for sale. Is Tess the same as Dwarf Hawaiian?
I saw that last night also.  I don't think Rosa is the same as Dwarf Hawaiian as I have never heard them been synonymous.  I tried some of her Dwarf Hawaiians last year (not this early and when she had other good mangoes available, PPK, Duncan, etc.).  They were ok but to have one this early and little to no other varieties available, I would probably say they were excellent.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: HMHausman on April 06, 2012, 09:38:17 AM
Rosa is similar to Palmer mango in taste!(My opinion)
Harry- how's the disease resistance on Extrema?

Palmer is a commercial cultivar here....been cultivated for a long time.  Gets purple coloration early and is often picked while immature because the color is deceiving.  Flavor wise it is good on the Excellent, Good, Fair, Poor scale.  It never challenges for top spot but is a solid mango flavorwise when allowed ripen properly.  Extrema seems to be resistant and susceptable to disease.  I say that because on one hand the fruits at my house usually get a rough brown exterior from some interaction with fungus or something else that irritates the skin and causes it to look almost like a potato or a mammee apple.  On the other hand, the fruits mature and are quite good (but have a strong resisnous flavor) eventhough the skin looks like it does. It is an early and very consistant producer.

Harry
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: zands on April 06, 2012, 09:40:04 AM

I saw that last night also.  I don't think Rosa is the same as Dwarf Hawaiian as I have never heard them been synonymous.  I tried some of her Dwarf Hawaiians last year (not this early and when she had other good mangoes available, PPK, Duncan, etc.).  They were ok but to have one this early and little to no other varieties available, I would probably say they were excellent.

Rosa is a distinct Latin American more Brazilian mango got nothing to do w Hawaii  :) ....Photos over here (http://www.pacogaldamez.com/2010/04/fotografias-de-san-martin-chile-verde-quetzaltenango/p4190035/).
And also over here.... (http://sustainablenicafarming.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/ode-to-the-mango/).Early is what counts for me not so much it being a very good mango

(http://www.pacogaldamez.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/P4190035.JPG)
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: mangomandan on April 06, 2012, 10:13:56 AM
I may have some Joellens and Rosigolds in about a month. Nothing else is even close.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Jackfruitwhisperer69 on April 06, 2012, 10:24:19 AM
Rosa is similar to Palmer mango in taste!(My opinion)
Harry- how's the disease resistance on Extrema?

Palmer is a commercial cultivar here....been cultivated for a long time.  Gets purple coloration early and is often picked while immature because the color is deceiving.  Flavor wise it is good on the Excellent, Good, Fair, Poor scale.  It never challenges for top spot but is a solid mango flavorwise when allowed ripen properly.  Extrema seems to be resistant and susceptable to disease.  I say that because on one hand the fruits at my house usually get a rough brown exterior from some interaction with fungus or something else that irritates the skin and causes it to look almost like a potato or a mammee apple.  On the other hand, the fruits mature and are quite good (but have a strong resisnous flavor) eventhough the skin looks like it does. It is an early and very consistant producer.

Harry

Hi Harry,
Thanks for the info! We get excellent palmers from Brazil, they never disapoint me ;) but, i can't say the same about the tommy!!! I bought 3 tommies last week, they weren't top quality and half way ripe!

Extrema is the one for me ;D ;D ;D, I really luv a strong flavoured mango!

You guy's are really lucky over there! Countless varieties to choice from!!!

I'm really sad about my Island! good climate but no good mangoes :( :( :(

 



 
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: bsbullie on April 06, 2012, 10:46:50 AM
Rosa is similar to Palmer mango in taste!(My opinion)
Harry- how's the disease resistance on Extrema?

Palmer is a commercial cultivar here....been cultivated for a long time.  Gets purple coloration early and is often picked while immature because the color is deceiving.  Flavor wise it is good on the Excellent, Good, Fair, Poor scale.  It never challenges for top spot but is a solid mango flavorwise when allowed ripen properly.  Extrema seems to be resistant and susceptable to disease.  I say that because on one hand the fruits at my house usually get a rough brown exterior from some interaction with fungus or something else that irritates the skin and causes it to look almost like a potato or a mammee apple.  On the other hand, the fruits mature and are quite good (but have a strong resisnous flavor) eventhough the skin looks like it does. It is an early and very consistant producer.

Harry

Hi Harry,
Thanks for the info! We get excellent palmers from Brazil, they never disapoint me ;) but, i can't say the same about the tommy!!! I bought 3 tommies last week, they weren't top quality and half way ripe!

Extrema is the one for me ;D ;D ;D, I really luv a strong flavoured mango!

You guy's are really lucky over there! Countless varieties to choice from!!!

I'm really sad about my Island! good climate but no good mangoes :( :( :(
When you say Tommies I assume you mean Tommy Atkins ?  There isn't much positive to say about a Tommy Atkins  :(
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Jackfruitwhisperer69 on April 06, 2012, 11:02:12 AM
Hi Rob,

Correct, it's Tommy Atkins!

I tought that Tommy Atkins has good disease resistance... not my tree! it's fully loaded with powdery mildew :( :( :( no fruits for me this year!!! :(

Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: bsbullie on April 06, 2012, 11:28:06 AM
Hi Rob,

Correct, it's Tommy Atkins!

I tought that Tommy Atkins has good disease resistance... not my tree! it's fully loaded with powdery mildew :( :( :( no fruits for me this year!!! :(
Have you sprayed for it ?
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Jackfruitwhisperer69 on April 06, 2012, 11:33:14 AM
Hi Rob,

Correct, it's Tommy Atkins!

I tought that Tommy Atkins has good disease resistance... not my tree! it's fully loaded with powdery mildew :( :( :( no fruits for me this year!!! :(
Have you sprayed for it ?

I usually use pure sulphur powder! but, I forgot about it :(

My tree's are on the other side of the Island(Calheta)! I can't go there everyday! to my dissapointment :( :( :(
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: bsbullie on April 06, 2012, 12:32:19 PM
Hi Rob,

Correct, it's Tommy Atkins!

I tought that Tommy Atkins has good disease resistance... not my tree! it's fully loaded with powdery mildew :( :( :( no fruits for me this year!!! :(
Have you sprayed for it ?

I usually use pure sulphur powder! but, I forgot about it :(

My tree's are on the other side of the Island(Calheta)! I can't go there everyday! to my dissapointment :( :( :(
A foliar spray would probably work better and you wouldn't have to apply that often.  Is it too late to sacrifice any of the blooms ?  Even if the blooms are gone, you should still treat the tree.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Jackfruitwhisperer69 on April 06, 2012, 12:51:22 PM
(http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd365/Moonshadow69/IMG_3463.jpg)

This pic was taken about a month ago! I went there 2 week ago and each panicle is about 60% with powdery mildew! is there a chance I will get any fruit?
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: zands on April 06, 2012, 01:09:07 PM


This pic was taken about a month ago! I went there 2 week ago and each panicle is about 60% with powdery mildew! is there a chance I will get any fruit?

Just going by my own experience you have a good chance. I had PM on a few trees that are now holding decent size developing mangoes that have gotten past the PM....so keep your fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Jackfruitwhisperer69 on April 06, 2012, 01:28:37 PM


This pic was taken about a month ago! I went there 2 week ago and each panicle is about 60% with powdery mildew! is there a chance I will get any fruit?

Just going by my own experience you have a good chance. I had PM on a few trees that are now holding decent size developing mangoes that have gotten past the PM....so keep your fingers crossed.

Hi Zands,
That's sound's great ;D ;D ;D
I will ask my uncle to do as Rob suggested!  Thanks, I will keep my fingers crossed!!! ;) maybe, this time i will get to taste a mango from my tree :)
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Guanabanus on April 07, 2012, 09:51:03 PM
I like strongly resinous mangos, such as 'Extrema' and 'Rosa'. 

'Rosa' is very firm, moderately fibrous, sweet-tart and very resinous if you eat the skin with the pulp--- delicious, with none of the bitterness found in the skins of most other varieties.

"Tommy Atkins' skin is also very tasty when eaten with the pulp.  The pulp by itself is maybe good in fish sauce.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: bsbullie on April 07, 2012, 09:55:13 PM
I like strongly resinous mangos, such as 'Extrema' and 'Rosa'. 

'Rosa' is very firm, moderately fibrous, sweet-tart and very resinous if you eat the skin with the pulp--- delicious, with none of the bitterness found in the skins of most other varieties.

"Tommy Atkins' skin is also very tasty when eaten with the pulp.  The pulp by itself is maybe good in fish sauce.

  ???:-\ :'( :'( ...sorry Har,...
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: fruitlovers on April 12, 2012, 04:33:22 AM
Looks like my earliest mangos this year will be Pope and Excel, almost ready to eat. Are they normally early varieties or is this a fluke?
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: HMHausman on April 12, 2012, 08:21:02 AM
Never had, nor even heard of Pope or Excel.  I did have a chance to taste (thanks to Murahilin) the Rosa, Tess and Hawaiian Dwarf.  Since these were the first mangoes of the season, not purchased from the store, they enjoy the glow of that status and get some additional points  for being so early. Kinda like my uncle who always said I was his favorite (but really only) nephew.

All of these mangoes fall into the category, for me, as great, when there are no other mangoes around, but would never even be given a thought during the regular mango season. My least favorite was Hawaiian Dwarf.  It was small and somewhat firm and predominantly green on the outside.  I wondered if it was even ripe from its exterior feeling and look.  However, inside it was clear that it was ripe. It had been refrigerated.  So that could have affected its overall eating quality. I liked the other two more, but neither had any really superlative qualities.  I did try eating the skin with the Rosa as was suggested.  That did impart a small amount of resinous twang that Har inidcates that he refers in his mangoes. For me, the skin is a bit too tough to really give me any enjoyment in the eating of the otherwise softer, succulent mango flesh. I will not be making a habit of eating the skin on this or any other mango in all probability.  But, as Har indicated, there is no biterness in the Rosa skin....which I will be taking his word is different than what you get when you eat the skin of other mangoes.

On the early mango front, I forgot another of my very advanced cultivars.  Its the Kau Dwarf out of Hawaii. Its a red skinned cultivar that I thonk has some commercial promise here.  As I recall now, it has been the first to fruit (after Rosigold when it fruits) in previous years.

Harry
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: natsgarden123 on April 12, 2012, 09:05:41 AM
from Truly Tropical blog/website--
http://delraymango.blogspot.com/ (http://delraymango.blogspot.com/)

FRIDAY, MARCH 30, 2012

Fruit for Tomorrow...
We will be open tomorrow, March 31, from 9am until noon.
This morning I spotted a few ripe mangos, so I'll pick those for sale tomorrow. Quantity and selection are EXTREMELY limited. It looked like the only trees with ripe mangos were Rosa and Dwarf Hawaiian.
Also we will have some Caimito (Star Apple) available.

Truly Tropical
2750 Seacrest Blvd.
Delray Beach, FL
561-278-7754

*************I am surprised no one has gotten (bought?) bud wood from TT and been grafting these early trees for sale. Is Tess the same as Dwarf Hawaiian?

Never heard of this nursery..maybe Ill stop by.  Also, Ill call Excalibur to see if they have any.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: bsbullie on April 12, 2012, 12:35:39 PM
from Truly Tropical blog/website--
http://delraymango.blogspot.com/ (http://delraymango.blogspot.com/)

FRIDAY, MARCH 30, 2012

Fruit for Tomorrow...
We will be open tomorrow, March 31, from 9am until noon.
This morning I spotted a few ripe mangos, so I'll pick those for sale tomorrow. Quantity and selection are EXTREMELY limited. It looked like the only trees with ripe mangos were Rosa and Dwarf Hawaiian.
Also we will have some Caimito (Star Apple) available.

Truly Tropical
2750 Seacrest Blvd.
Delray Beach, FL
561-278-7754

*************I am surprised no one has gotten (bought?) bud wood from TT and been grafting these early trees for sale. Is Tess the same as Dwarf Hawaiian?

Never heard

 of this nur
sery..maybe Ill stop by.  Also, Ill call Excalibur to see if they have any.
Truly Tropical is not a nursery.  They sell fruit.  Death Hawaiian is not a variety worth seeking out.  Excalibur does have a small tree, not sure if it is the same exact "Dwarf Hawaiian" as Truly's but in any event it's fruit is not very good either.  I am not sure if Excalibur is even propagating it.  If anybody is curious I can check but I wouldn't run out to get one.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: natsgarden123 on April 13, 2012, 10:00:49 AM
from Truly Tropical blog/website--
http://delraymango.blogspot.com/ (http://delraymango.blogspot.com/)

FRIDAY, MARCH 30, 2012

Fruit for Tomorrow...
We will be open tomorrow, March 31, from 9am until noon.
This morning I spotted a few ripe mangos, so I'll pick those for sale tomorrow. Quantity and selection are EXTREMELY limited. It looked like the only trees with ripe mangos were Rosa and Dwarf Hawaiian.
Also we will have some Caimito (Star Apple) available.

Truly Tropical
2750 Seacrest Blvd.
Delray Beach, FL
561-278-7754

*************I am surprised no one has gotten (bought?) bud wood from TT and been grafting these early trees for sale. Is Tess the same as Dwarf Hawaiian?

Never heard

 of this nur
sery..maybe Ill stop by.  Also, Ill call Excalibur to see if they have any.
Truly Tropical is not a nursery.  They sell fruit. Death Hawaiian is not a variety worth seeking out.  Excalibur does have a small tree, not sure if it is the same exact "Dwarf Hawaiian" as Truly's but in any event it's fruit is not very good either.  I am not sure if Excalibur is even propagating it.  If anybody is curious I can check but I wouldn't run out to get one.

LOL - I like the death part..

I wasnt looking for the tree :)- just the fruit to taste
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: bsbullie on April 13, 2012, 11:24:30 AM
from Truly Tropical blog/website--
http://delraymango.blogspot.com/ (http://delraymango.blogspot.com/)

FRIDAY, MARCH 30, 2012

Fruit for Tomorrow...
We will be open tomorrow, March 31, from 9am until noon.
This morning I spotted a few ripe mangos, so I'll pick those for sale tomorrow. Quantity and selection are EXTREMELY limited. It looked like the only trees with ripe mangos were Rosa and Dwarf Hawaiian.
Also we will have some Caimito (Star Apple) available.

Truly Tropical
2750 Seacrest Blvd.
Delray Beach, FL
561-278-7754

*************I am surprised no one has gotten (bought?) bud wood from TT and been grafting these early trees for sale. Is Tess the same as Dwarf Hawaiian?

Never heard

 of this nur
sery..maybe Ill stop by.  Also, Ill call Excalibur to see if they have any.
Truly Tropical is not a nursery.  They sell fruit. Death Hawaiian is not a variety worth seeking out.  Excalibur does have a small tree, not sure if it is the same exact "Dwarf Hawaiian" as Truly's but in any event it's fruit is not very good either.  I am not sure if Excalibur is even propagating it.  If anybody is curious I can check but I wouldn't run out to get one.

LOL - I like the death part..

I wasnt looking for the tree :)- just the fruit to taste
Damn smart phones...
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: WhitH on April 13, 2012, 11:30:42 AM
My Glenns, in Vero Beach, FL, are sizing up nicely, but not ready yet.

(http://s18.postimage.org/6te02vtmd/photo.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6te02vtmd/)
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: HMHausman on April 13, 2012, 11:52:08 AM
My Glenns, in Vero Beach, FL, are sizing up nicely, but not ready yet.

(http://s18.postimage.org/6te02vtmd/photo.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6te02vtmd/)

Nice tree, gorgeous fruits, but I have question about it being Glenn.  Fruit looks too long to be Glenn.  Size and shape of the fruit seems more like Rosigold.  Tree's canopy isn't as straggly as some Rosigolds (like mine).  That has me wondering.  Where did you get the tree?

Harry
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Sleepdoc on April 13, 2012, 12:00:20 PM
My Glenns, in Vero Beach, FL, are sizing up nicely, but not ready yet.

(http://s18.postimage.org/6te02vtmd/photo.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6te02vtmd/)

Nice tree, gorgeous fruits, but I have question about it being Glenn.  Fruit looks too long to be Glenn.  Size and shape of the fruit seems more like Rosigold.  Tree's canopy isn't as straggly as some Rosigolds (like mine).  That has me wondering.  Where did you get the tree?

Harry

I'm with Harry ... Don't think it's Glenn ... Rosigold or maybe Cogshall?
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: WhitH on April 13, 2012, 12:03:57 PM
I'm 95% sure it's Glenn. Had the Glenn PIN tag when I purchased from Home Depot. I ate fruits last season, and they corresponded to what I expected for a Glenn. I may be able to dig up pics... I think the photo doesn't show the shape well, or maybe because the fruit are in development...
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: WhitH on April 13, 2012, 12:31:38 PM
Ok, here are last season's mangos from this tree... do they look like Rosigold? They were totally fiberless, very juicy, sweet and mild flavor - not resinous.
These are growing in very sandy soil. This is the only picture I have of the ripe fruit from this tree.

(http://s14.postimage.org/o7vxmde25/37578_414532582796_536137796_5199099_7705630_n.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/o7vxmde25/)
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: HMHausman on April 13, 2012, 12:39:46 PM
Ok, here are last season's mangos from this tree... do they look like Rosigold? They were totally fiberless, very juicy, sweet and mild flavor - not resinous.
These are growing in very sandy soil. This is the only picture I have of the ripe fruit from this tree.

(http://s14.postimage.org/o7vxmde25/37578_414532582796_536137796_5199099_7705630_n.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/o7vxmde25/)

Hard to reallly make any further determination from this photo.  Your description could easily be Rosigold from the flavor/fiber description.  What was the time of year that this photo was taken?

Harry
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: HMHausman on April 13, 2012, 12:51:09 PM
(http://www.exoticorchard.com/prodimages/glenn.jpg)

(http://trec.ifas.ufl.edu/tfphotos/update12-05/glenn-mango3.jpg)

A couple of more representative Glenns.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: WhitH on April 13, 2012, 12:58:22 PM
Believe it or not, July 28, but the tree was quite freshly planted from a 7 gallon pot, so fruiting season may have been thrown off a bit..
Thanks for the input. I'll definitely take better "head on" pics when this year's crop ripens.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: HMHausman on April 13, 2012, 01:06:39 PM
Interesting......yeah, July 28th throws the whole equation off.  But that would be for both Rosigold and Glenn....just a matter of degree which would be more off their regular season.  Let's see what they look like this year.  As I said, from the trees appearance I could buy that it was Glenn.....but that is not a very definitive way to ID mango trees....with many culitvars.  Glenns just tend to have broader shoulders and less length.  But, I suppose there is always the possibility of some variation on occasion.

Harry
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Sleepdoc on April 13, 2012, 01:07:25 PM
From that pic, it does look like Rosigold to me.  A bit too elongated for Glenn..

Nice looking Kabob BTW :)
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: bsbullie on April 13, 2012, 01:08:24 PM
July 28 is mighty late for a Glenn, especially last year when most varieties came in early.  Being freshly planted from a 7 gallon should not have had an affect.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: WhitH on April 13, 2012, 01:32:34 PM
Went back and saw that this photo is from the previous year, 2010. Were mangos late in 2010? I have no pics from this tree from the 2011 season. Date on the photo is July 28, 2010.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: fruitlovers on April 13, 2012, 06:42:30 PM
Never had, nor even heard of Pope or Excel.
Harry

Thought you might know about Pope as i've heard it originated in Florida?
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Pancrazio on April 13, 2012, 07:46:01 PM
I order a grafted Rosa mango at the Governmental nursery here!

Do they ship plants?  ::)
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Guanabanus on April 27, 2012, 10:17:54 PM
At Truly Tropical, where I harvested fruit today for sale there tomorrow morning:

'Rosa' season is still on, but will be finished in about a week.

'Raposa' continues to ripen a few every few days and will continue for a couple more weeks, AND IT IS FLOWERING HEAVILY, right while the current crop is on.

'Tess' is still ripenning just a few per week, but has lots more, still very green.

'Jakarta' season is well started.

'Glenn' and 'Edward' and 'Cogshall' and 'Julie' and 'Ice Cream' are just barely started.

[Also Caimito]
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: puglvr1 on April 29, 2012, 02:03:43 PM
Whit, I checked my pictures of my potted Glenn from 2010 and apparently it didn't fruit that year. I did however find a picture from 2009 and 2011. You might be able to compare it to your fruits... My inground Glenn is producing for the very first time this year. I can't wait to taste them!

Taken in July 18, 2009

(http://s18.postimage.org/tw9mmryid/Potted_Glenn_First_Fruit_7_18_09_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/tw9mmryid/)

This one was taken in June 12, 2011....and ripened around the first week of July.
 
(http://s16.postimage.org/9of6xqowh/Glenn_Re_potted_6_12_11_5.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/9of6xqowh/)
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on April 29, 2012, 04:31:45 PM
Harvested my first pickering this season, April 27th...and then another today...

The first to be ripe was the smallest of all that formed on the tree, but no problem, I'm not worried about size....just fruit quality and quantity. 

The second fruit harvested today, was normal size.  I notice about 3 of the 7 mangoes are small (slightly larger than the first one I picked, pictured below)

I have 10 that will definitely be coming off of this tree!

I may have to mail some to my friends! :)

Pic of tree right before harvest time!

and first fruit harvested! Smells amazing! after eating these, I can't buy mangoes from the store ever again..imported....they are absolutely disgusting compared to these.
(http://s17.postimage.org/ln5kds263/4_26_12_058.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ln5kds263/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/5mcz0t4aj/4_25_12_014.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5mcz0t4aj/)
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Jackfruitwhisperer69 on April 29, 2012, 04:47:36 PM
I order a grafted Rosa mango at the Governmental nursery here!

Do they ship plants?  ::)

Hi Pan,
No, they don't ship! At the moment they are having problems at the nursery...the mango graft's ain't pushing! :(
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Sleepdoc on April 29, 2012, 04:49:05 PM
Harvested my first pickering this season, April 27th...and then another today...

The first to be ripe was the smallest of all that formed on the tree, but no problem, I'm not worried about size....just fruit quality and quantity. 

The second fruit harvested today, was normal size.  I notice about 3 of the 7 mangoes are small (slightly larger than the first one I picked, pictured below)

I have 10 that will definitely be coming off of this tree!

I may have to mail some to my friends! :)

Pic of tree right before harvest time!

and first fruit harvested! Smells amazing! after eating these, I can't buy mangoes from the store ever again..imported....they are absolutely disgusting compared to these.
(http://s17.postimage.org/ln5kds263/4_26_12_058.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ln5kds263/)


I think that's too small to be mature ....  unless the hand holding it is a Sasquatch    ;)
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Cookie Monster on April 29, 2012, 05:11:44 PM
Looks totally consistent with rosigold.

My Glenns, in Vero Beach, FL, are sizing up nicely, but not ready yet.

(http://s18.postimage.org/6te02vtmd/photo.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6te02vtmd/)

Nice tree, gorgeous fruits, but I have question about it being Glenn.  Fruit looks too long to be Glenn.  Size and shape of the fruit seems more like Rosigold.  Tree's canopy isn't as straggly as some Rosigolds (like mine).  That has me wondering.  Where did you get the tree?

Harry

I'm with Harry ... Don't think it's Glenn ... Rosigold or maybe Cogshall?
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Cookie Monster on April 29, 2012, 05:18:29 PM
My beefness! How many other mango trees load up with fruit in a pot like that?

Harvested my first pickering this season, April 27th...and then another today...

The first to be ripe was the smallest of all that formed on the tree, but no problem, I'm not worried about size....just fruit quality and quantity. 

The second fruit harvested today, was normal size.  I notice about 3 of the 7 mangoes are small (slightly larger than the first one I picked, pictured below)

I have 10 that will definitely be coming off of this tree!

I may have to mail some to my friends! :)

Pic of tree right before harvest time!

and first fruit harvested! Smells amazing! after eating these, I can't buy mangoes from the store ever again..imported....they are absolutely disgusting compared to these.
(http://s17.postimage.org/ln5kds263/4_26_12_058.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ln5kds263/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/5mcz0t4aj/4_25_12_014.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5mcz0t4aj/)
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: puglvr1 on May 01, 2012, 04:13:39 PM
Congrats Adam! I agree...that Pickering really seems to be an excellent Container Mango...great growing!!
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Tim on May 01, 2012, 10:43:42 PM
Agreed...the more I look at that picture, the more I want a Pickering tree  ;D   still looking...
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on May 02, 2012, 12:12:17 AM
sleepdoc,

maybe cut back on the ambien it can cause vivid nightmares of bigfoot holding under ripe mangoes.

but now u can "rest assured", this mango had a sweet scent, and divine taste.  the orange color indicates that its fully ripe.

it was small, but worth eating.  and I even shared it with a friend...who took it home and shared it with his pappy.

I guess the price I pay for having a 4ft tree in a 15gal pot, producing 11 fruits months ahead of season (for this cultivar).:.is having a few undersized mangoes. 


FL grown (pesticide free organic) fresh harvested mangoes are a hot commodity.


Harvested my first pickering this season, April 27th...and then another today...

The first to be ripe was the smallest of all that formed on the tree, but no problem, I'm not worried about size....just fruit quality and quantity. 

The second fruit harvested today, was normal size.  I notice about 3 of the 7 mangoes are small (slightly larger than the first one I picked, pictured below)

I have 10 that will definitely be coming off of this tree!

I may have to mail some to my friends! :)

Pic of tree right before harvest time!

and first fruit harvested! Smells amazing! after eating these, I can't buy mangoes from the store ever again..imported....they are absolutely disgusting compared to these.
(http://s17.postimage.org/ln5kds263/4_26_12_058.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ln5kds263/)


I think that's too small to be mature ....  unless the hand holding it is a Sasquatch    ;)
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Mike T on May 02, 2012, 08:10:16 AM
Sam ru du/chocadam is an excellent sweet fiberless mango.It is referred to as the 3 seasons mango in thailand for its habit of flushing with fruit several times a year including in the middle of winter.It is the first and last mango in the market every year here even though there are only a few trees round.It would be a prized addition to any backyard mango selection in florida.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Sleepdoc on May 02, 2012, 08:32:55 AM
sleepdoc,

maybe cut back on the ambien it can cause vivid nightmares of bigfoot holding under ripe mangoes.



Hey, how did you know about that Ambien ?!

Anyway, didn't mean to offend, thought it was funny in my ambien induced stupor..


In all seriousness, it does look small to me, like one of those underdeveloped fruits the tree decides to abort.  But I will take your word for it being mature and ripe.  Stranger things have happened, and glad you were able to have a nice fruit..
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Charlie23 on May 02, 2012, 03:21:17 PM
Adam, do you think you fertilized enough on your pickering?  You think by getting less fruit on that lil tree, maybe the fruit size will get bigger?
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: BestDay on July 12, 2012, 01:12:42 AM
So I just reread through this entire post and I have a couple questions.

Harry, how would you say the Rosa, Tess and Hawaiian Dwarf compare to Rosigold?  You say you aren't very impressed with them but compared to the other early mangos how do they compare?

Has anyone in this forum tasted Raposa?  How is it?

Is Jakarta usually before Edwards?

I'm basically trying to find the best early mango.  Any info or opinions would be appreciated.

Bill
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: fruitlovers on July 12, 2012, 06:02:27 AM
So I just reread through this entire post and I have a couple questions.

Harry, how would you say the Rosa, Tess and Hawaiian Dwarf compare to Rosigold?  You say you aren't very impressed with them but compared to the other early mangos how do they compare?

Has anyone in this forum tasted Raposa?  How is it?

Is Jakarta usually before Edwards?

I'm basically trying to find the best early mango.  Any info or opinions would be appreciated.

Bill

Have tasted rapoza, and it is excellent, at least here in Hawaiian climate and soils. Hawaiian dwarf i am guessing is a Floridian invention.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: bsbullie on July 12, 2012, 07:08:03 AM
So I just reread through this entire post and I have a couple questions.

Harry, how would you say the Rosa, Tess and Hawaiian Dwarf compare to Rosigold?  You say you aren't very impressed with them but compared to the other early mangos how do they compare?

Has anyone in this forum tasted Raposa?  How is it?

Is Jakarta usually before Edwards?

I'm basically trying to find the best early mango.  Any info or opinions would be appreciated.

Bill
These answers are based in Florida (not sure the outcome in Cali):

Edward is far earlier than Jakarta.

I have tasted Rapoza and Hawaiian Dwarf grown in Florida...Rapoza is much better but I have a feeling, based on what I tasted, it is not as good as what is grown in Hawaii.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: HMHausman on July 12, 2012, 07:28:07 AM
So I just reread through this entire post and I have a couple questions.

Harry, how would you say the Rosa, Tess and Hawaiian Dwarf compare to Rosigold?  You say you aren't very impressed with them but compared to the other early mangos how do they compare?

Has anyone in this forum tasted Raposa?  How is it?

Is Jakarta usually before Edwards?

I'm basically trying to find the best early mango.  Any info or opinions would be appreciated.

Bill

I have tasted these other mangoes once and not side by side with Rosigold.  To draw a comparison upon which you can rely for picking and planting out a tree would not be a very good idea. You have to try fruits several times before being able to really get a good enough idea about the quality of the fruit sufficient to decide what to plant out.  I am sure Rosigold would be much more avaialble to you as far as sourcing a tree. From my very limited exposure, I would say that the fruits that I did try were not as good as Rosigold, but it was close with regard to Tess and Rosa.  I would agree with Rob that Edward is earlier than Jakarta.  Regarding Rapoza, again I have had very limited tasting.  While my tasting experience was underwhelming, based upon very reliable mango-informed people (not the least of which was Oscar, but there were others) I did obtain, from Oscar (in a joint order with murahilin a while back) budwood for this cultivar.  I did plant out a grafted tree in my yard. So lets see how it does.

Harry
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: BestDay on July 12, 2012, 06:44:22 PM
Ok guys, thanks for the info. Right now I have Rosigold and then Edward as my early Mangos. I will have to wait and see when there season is in California.

It sounds like Raposa may have some hope as an early Florida mango. If that holds true I may have to try and obtain a plant in the future and see what it does in California.

Bill
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: bsbullie on July 12, 2012, 07:59:25 PM
Ok guys, thanks for the info. Right now I have Rosigold and then Edward as my early Mangos. I will have to wait and see when there season is in California.

It sounds like Raposa may have some hope as an early Florida mango. If that holds true I may have to try and obtain a plant in the future and see what it does in California.

Bill
Rapoza was not an early season mango in Florida when I have had it.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: Guanabanus on July 12, 2012, 08:16:23 PM
I am not sure that what I've had was the 'Rapoza'.  An old map of the trees at Trully Tropical shows two Raposa trees, but I later realized that it was the fruits from those trees that Ms Chris was selling as Dwarf Hawaiian.  Whatever they are they are really good, very early AND very long season--- late March to late June, with a few very green fruits for later.
Title: Re: Which mango varieties are earliest this Year?
Post by: fruitlovers on July 13, 2012, 12:08:52 AM
Ok guys, thanks for the info. Right now I have Rosigold and then Edward as my early Mangos. I will have to wait and see when there season is in California.

It sounds like Raposa may have some hope as an early Florida mango. If that holds true I may have to try and obtain a plant in the future and see what it does in California.

Bill

Rapoza is not considered an early mango here. It is usually labeled here as a late season mango. I think this is also incorrect. Better would be to call it an extended season mango. It usually starts fruiting mid season and can flower for a very long time. This is a big plus here, due to heavy rainfall. The tree tends to "pick" one dry spell and will fruit succesfully during that short spell. It is a heavy cropper, and very nicely colored, as well as great tasting. So has all the good qualities for a mango here.