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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: zands on May 01, 2015, 07:58:44 AM
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My Carrie is dropping and I am eating. Not many so far but real ripeness should be 7-10 days. I know a fruit tree is getting into the big ripeness zone when it drops a few. Critter took a few bites of one Carrie which means more ripe fruits coming v soon
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My Carrie is dropping and I am eating. Not many so far but real ripeness should be 7-10 days. I know a fruit tree is getting into the big ripeness zone when it drops a few. Critter took a few bites of one Carrie which means more ripe fruits coming v soon
Carrie, legitimate?? I think not... ;) 8) hahaha
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My condolences to the squirrel who thought he was biting into a delicious mango. At the moment his squirrelly teeth bit down I bet he was wishing for some of Adam's plaster of Paris to put him out of his misery.
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First drop that had adequate flavor - Coconut Cream. I ate it yesterday and it was fantastic.
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"My first legitimate mango of 2015 is Carrie. And yours is?"
Nada, zip, zero!! All my mangoes are still between grape to golfsize and if I have 20+ between 6 trees I would consider myself lucky ::) ??? :o :'(
Enjoy your Carrie...I'm not a fan of that mango either. but, I do know I'm in the minority when it comes to them ;)
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My condolences to the squirrel who thought he was biting into a delicious mango. At the moment his squirrelly teeth bit down I bet he was wishing for some of Adam's plaster of Paris to put him out of his misery.
Carrie, legitimate?? I think not... ;) 8) hahaha
Haters gonna hate! As far as I am concerned Carrie rates far above all new Zill mangoes except possibly the peach cobbler
Carrie according to Alex-Squam who put this up in wikipedia
The original tree was grown on the property of Laurence H. Zill in Boynton Beach, Florida and was reportedly a seedling of the 'Sophie Fry' mango. A pedigree analysis of the Florida mangoes conducted in 2005 that did not include 'Sophie Fry' in the study found 'Julie' to be the most likely parent,[1] though 'Julie' is also the parent of 'Sophie Fry'. The 'Carrie' tree was named after Lawrence Zill's mother, Carrie Zill.[2] It first fruited in 1940[3] and commercial propagation began in 1949. Thereafter 'Carrie' gained a reputation for having excellent eating qualities and good disease resistance.[4] Its commercial application was limited due to the fruit's lack of color and soft flesh, but it became a popular dooryard variety in Florida.
'Carrie' trees are planted in the collections of the USDA's germplasm repository in Miami, Florida,[5][6] the University of Florida's Tropical Research and Education Center in Homestead, Florida,[7] and the Miami-Dade Fruit and Spice Park,[8] also in Homestead.
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"My first legitimate mango of 2015 is Carrie. And yours is?"
Nada, zip, zero!! All my mangoes are still between grape to golfsize and if I have 20+ between 6 trees I would consider myself lucky ::) ??? :o :'(
Enjoy your Carrie...I'm not a fan of that mango either. but, I do know I'm in the minority when it comes to them ;)
Nancy, don't feel bad I'll have my first one in August😒
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Quote - "My first legitimate mango of 2015 is Carrie. And yours is?"
Store bought Tommy Atkins from Mexico ..... absolutely delicious ??? 8) :o ::) :P
Congrats Zands, Carrie is a delicious mango when eaten/ picked at the right time. As long as your taste buds enjoys it ...that's all that matters . Everyone has different preferences that's what makes the world interesting !
Mike...in the desert
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Pickering almost done with a couple, probably need to remove them in the next day or two and let them ripen in the kitchen. Cogshall close behind. Mallika needs few more weeks, as does NDM's crop from its second flush (the first few dropped/split) -- mid-June, I'd guess. Graham's are smaller still, about golf-ball size; Neelam further behind.
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I just got some mangos from a friend of a friend (who also happened to give me harvest rights to a jackfruit tree she does not like in exchange for pruning it after season. ;D) She has huge mango tree, could not tell you the variety, but it was delish and better than the mango I had yesterday (NONE!) Little fiber and sweet. Immature fruit that dropped but they are ripening. And she does not like mango either ;D said I can take as many as I want whenever I come check on the jackfruit. Best fruit tree.................those at someone elses house LOL
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"Nancy, don't feel bad I'll have my first one in August😒"
Joe, you are definitely much later than me :(...but look on the bright side, when everyone's mangoes are done you're just starting...not a bad thing to look forward to ;D
As far as store bought mangoes...that's all I have to look forward to also, maybe I'll find a few locally grown (from South FL ) in our produce stands soon 8)
I would like to try another Carrie (picked at the right time) but there's no one around here that has a tree...so all I have to go by is my memory from many years ago...and they were not good. I'm sure there was issues with the timing of the picking...
There is no such thing as a bad mango as long as you like them!
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Cool! I wonder how close the biggest coco cream on my tree is to ripening.
(http://s13.postimg.cc/w3u4389jn/coconutcream7_zpsx6yjxxsp.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/w3u4389jn/)
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I just got some mangos from a friend of a friend (who also happened to give me harvest rights to a jackfruit tree she does not like in exchange for pruning it after season. ;D) She has huge mango tree, could not tell you the variety, but it was delish and better than the mango I had yesterday (NONE!) Little fiber and sweet. Immature fruit that dropped but they are ripening. And she does not like mango either ;D said I can take as many as I want whenever I come check on the jackfruit. Best fruit tree.................those at someone elses house LOL
Please post a picture of the mango from your friend. People on this forum could help you identify the mango variety.
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Will do. Thought about it, but figured since it was kinda young fruit drop that matured would be hard to ID since not full grown fruit. The ones on the tree have that beautiful purple shoulders, ones on the green red and yellow. Will post pics here in a bit.
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These are the ones. ID would be great, but not necessary as they are yummy, and I have no room for more mango trees lol These were drops, about size of palm, some fruit on tree significantly bigger, maybe twice as big. Not a bad start to the season, decent tasting and FREE
(http://s9.postimg.cc/ykpqt9krv/20150430_153329_1.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/ykpqt9krv/)
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Cool! I wonder how close the biggest coco cream on my tree is to ripening.
(http://s13.postimg.cc/w3u4389jn/coconutcream7_zpsx6yjxxsp.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/w3u4389jn/)
Tough to say. I believe the CC drop I ate was premature. Still incredibly tasty but I don't think it was 100%. A couple more drops today that also look like early drops. I'll see how they ripen up...
The larger individuals on the tree don't look like they'll be ready any time soon, but who knows.
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First mango to maturity at my house, surprisingly, and unusually was PPK (Lemon Meringue). Have had them now for about 1 1/2 weeks.
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So envious of you all enjoying mangoes already. This mango season seems to be late to very late in my yard.
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Cool! I wonder how close the biggest coco cream on my tree is to ripening.
(http://s13.postimg.cc/w3u4389jn/coconutcream7_zpsx6yjxxsp.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/w3u4389jn/)
For best results, you will want to wait till it gets 25% or so (the more the better) of a cream/yellow blush/coloration.
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Cool! I wonder how close the biggest coco cream on my tree is to ripening.
(http://s13.postimg.cc/w3u4389jn/coconutcream7_zpsx6yjxxsp.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/w3u4389jn/)
For best results, you will want to wait till it gets 25% or so (the more the better) of a cream/yellow blush/coloration.
Cool. Thanks Rob.
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Cool! I wonder how close the biggest coco cream on my tree is to ripening.
(http://s13.postimg.cc/w3u4389jn/coconutcream7_zpsx6yjxxsp.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/w3u4389jn/)
Tough to say. I believe the CC drop I ate was premature. Still incredibly tasty but I don't think it was 100%. A couple more drops today that also look like early drops. I'll see how they ripen up...
The larger individuals on the tree don't look like they'll be ready any time soon, but who knows.
Yeah, I have one in the kitchen which is green but large and plump. It was on a small branch which just peeled off in front of my face during a mild gust of wind. I'll see if it becomes edible at least. I know it won't be 100 percent.
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Let these drops, or any other mangoes picked, ripen in a room where temps are that of outside temps such ss a screened in porch, balcony, garage, etc. Mangoes will ripen best where the temps are similar to outdoor temps. Sitting in the Air conditioning on a counter will not allow the fruit to ripen properly. While not as cold as the fridge, it will cause a similar effect in that it will delay/hamper ripening by geing in the Air conditioning.
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Let these drops, or any other mangoes picked, ripen in a room where temps are that of outside temps such ss a screened in porch, balcony, garage, etc. Mangoes will ripen best where the temps are similar to outdoor temps. Sitting in the Air conditioning on a counter will not allow the fruit to ripen properly. While not as cold as the fridge, it will cause a similar effect in that it will delay/hamper ripening by geing in the Air conditioning.
Mine was in the kitchen for 4 days and is still as green and hard as when it first fell. I just put it outside in the screen enclosure. Thanks for the tip!
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Gonna have to build some sort of protectvie box to keep the mice away to ripen them outside. VERY curious to see the difference in ripening after YEARS of just letting them sit on the kitchen counter.
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Gonna have to build some sort of protectvie box to keep the mice away to ripen them outside. VERY curious to see the difference in ripening after YEARS of just letting them sit on the kitchen counter.
they will ripen much faster.
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So envious of you all enjoying mangoes already. This mango season seems to be late to very late in my yard.
Spoke too soon. Got my first mango of the 2015 season. A tree ripened, medium sized Julie off of my mature tree. Strange cause the squirrels usually get the first 2-3 mangoes of the season. 1-2 days on the counter and we'll see how good it is. Time to cut down on lawn watering (drier conditions helps enhance brix).
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So envious of you all enjoying mangoes already. This mango season seems to be late to very late in my yard.
Spoke too soon. Got my first mango of the 2015 season. A tree ripened, medium sized Julie off of my mature tree. Strange cause the squirrels usually get the first 2-3 mangoes of the season. 1-2 days on the counter and we'll see how good it is. Time to cut down on lawn watering (drier conditions helps enhance brix).
Ignoring Rob's advice.
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In a big grocery paper bag, sealed (microclimate), single layer and not too much crowding. AC is on only 4-5 hrs and at night, so yes, clearly. :P.
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In a big grocery paper bag, sealed (microclimate), single layer and not too much crowding. AC is on only 4-5 hrs and at night, so yes, clearly. :P.
Paper bags not recommended. Paper bags will speed up ripening. The object is not to speed up the ripening but to have it done more naturally.
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'Rosigold' - I've been eating them since the end of March 2015 (They used to start to ripen at the 1st or beginning of March, I mean like clockwork, but after doing an experiment (successfully) to force the 'Rosigold' tree to give me ripe fruit in February, the fruit have begun to ripen at the end of March ever since.)
Miracle Mango (Chok-Anon) - They're ripening with a vengeance right now. The tree is just full of them with thick branches bending all the way down to the ground from the weight of all the mangos. I forgot to remove all the flowers in order to force the tree to give me ripe fruit in January. I hope I don't forget to do so next year.
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My first legitimate mango of the season usually comes in mid-April on a tree at the edge of a Lake Worth, Florida parking lot.
(http://s18.postimg.cc/olhwkpes5/IMG_20150503_085725.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/olhwkpes5/)
The smaller size of the tree suggests is might be less than 10 - 15 years old. The tastes quality suggests it could be a propagated cultivar. It is a fiberless mango with a small "beak" on the bottom. Nice specimens look firey - golds and reds - a la Haden or Southern Blush. It has lighter yellow flesh. Taste is pretty close to a Pickering (but not quite as sweet, I think) and it has a bit of the "pineapple" (lightly tart) taste of Valencia Pride.
Does anyone know what this mango is?
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My first legitimate mango of the season usually comes in mid-April on a tree at the edge of a Lake Worth, Florida parking lot.
(http://s18.postimg.cc/olhwkpes5/IMG_20150503_085725.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/olhwkpes5/)
The smaller size of the tree suggests is might be less than 10 - 15 years old. The tastes quality suggests it could be a propagated cultivar. It is a fiberless mango with a small "beak" on the bottom. Nice specimens look firey - golds and reds - a la Haden or Southern Blush. It has lighter yellow flesh. Taste is pretty close to a Pickering (but not quite as sweet, I think) and it has a bit of the "pineapple" (lightly tart) taste of Valencia Pride.
Does anyone know what this mango is?
Not sure what it is but I am sure I would like to try the fruit and get some bud wood for grafting. That early in production makes it a very unusual mango. To my knowledge, it is not one of the better known cultivar. I'd like to see the tree as well. Any pictures available?
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My Glenn gave me one tonight, very nice.
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My first legitimate mango of the season usually comes in mid-April on a tree at the edge of a Lake Worth, Florida parking lot.
(http://s18.postimg.cc/olhwkpes5/IMG_20150503_085725.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/olhwkpes5/)
The smaller size of the tree suggests is might be less than 10 - 15 years old. The tastes quality suggests it could be a propagated cultivar. It is a fiberless mango with a small "beak" on the bottom. Nice specimens look firey - golds and reds - a la Haden or Southern Blush. It has lighter yellow flesh. Taste is pretty close to a Pickering (but not quite as sweet, I think) and it has a bit of the "pineapple" (lightly tart) taste of Valencia Pride.
Does anyone know what this mango is?
Probably a Zill based on the description and photo. I've been harvesting early ones already too
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Brett described the tree as smaller, something I would not correlate with g he Zill variety.
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My Carrie is dropping and I am eating. Not many so far but real ripeness should be 7-10 days. I know a fruit tree is getting into the big ripeness zone when it drops a few. Critter took a few bites of one Carrie which means more ripe fruits coming v soon
Carrie, legitimate?? I think not... ;) 8) hahaha
;D +1
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Brett described the tree as smaller, something I would not correlate with g he Zill variety.
He doesn't know how old the tree is.
Brett, if you would like bring some of the fruit by the west palm farm sometime and we can compare it.
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If I am lucky, it will be a Mallika. My Maha produced no panicles this year, because I did not prune a tree above it in time to give it sufficient sun. Likely next year will be its first producing year - it is just borderline big enough this year. The Mallika is in its first year of production, and I trimmed back all but two so it didn't over-focus on fruit. It then dropped one of the two, and is currently growing the lone survivor pretty consistently. I don't expect it to ripen though, if it stays at all, before summer. It's currently much bigger than a kidney bean, but slightly smaller than a baseball.
I'm very excited though to get my first fruit from several other plants this year, with a long list of hopefuls, and multiple almost-definites. I already got my first figs, a pomegranate, my dates flowered for the first time, my sapodilla is heavy with flowers (I can't keep them all, so we'll see if the tree does its own natural selection or not), my passionflora edulises have put out their first flowers and hopefully will cross-pollinate at least one!, the Noni is flowering for the first time, and a few other plants are ready to put out their second year of fruit. I look forward to next year when even more of the plants will be fruiting reliably. It is so nice to see an entire year of digging daily in swarms of mosquitoes and heat finally start to pay off!!
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Brett described the tree as smaller, something I would not correlate with g he Zill variety.
He doesn't know how old the tree is.
Brett, if you would like bring some of the fruit by the west palm farm sometime and we can compare it.
The trunk size compared with overall tree size shojld give a good inclination if we are talking 5, 10 or 15 year old tree. I wasnt taking a shot at anyone, just stating a fact about the Zill mango and its growth habit.
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(http://s18.postimg.cc/olhwkpes5/IMG_20150503_085725.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/olhwkpes5/)
Probably a Zill based on the description and photo. I've been harvesting early ones already too
Doesn't look like Zill to me. For one thing, it looks much bigger than the Zills I am used to seeing.
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Doing a "Zill Mango" Google image search has a bunch of pics that look exactly like BrettBorders Zill.
https://www.google.com/search?q=zill+mango&espv=2&biw=1680&bih=949&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=R0pKVbHvHMGWNqqYgKAB&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&dpr=1 (https://www.google.com/search?q=zill+mango&espv=2&biw=1680&bih=949&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=R0pKVbHvHMGWNqqYgKAB&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&dpr=1)
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I did a google search for murahilin and found, well, see for your self.... ;) ;D :o ??? 8)
https://www.google.com/search?q=murahilin&biw=1170&bih=526&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=glJKVf6oJceWgwSKh4CYAg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAw#tbm=isch&q=murahilin&nfpr=1 (https://www.google.com/search?q=murahilin&biw=1170&bih=526&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=glJKVf6oJceWgwSKh4CYAg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAw#tbm=isch&q=murahilin&nfpr=1)
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I would put my money on Squam's ID. The fruit look an awful lot like the Zill photos, like this one:
(http://s4.postimg.cc/bw4bakng9/P3303531.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/bw4bakng9/)
I suspect it has a Haden parent, based on its looks.
TopTropicals says: "Zill mango is a seedling of Haden variety. Selected in Florida. The fruit are born in clusters. The flesh is firm, juicy, and has a very pleasant aroma. The flavor is sweet having just a hint of pineapple."
This mango would have likely been top tier back in the 1940s. But it still tastes awesome between Tax Day and 4/20 ... when for the past 2 years, the tree has dropped a couple of well-ripened, speckled & flaming, fist-sized legitimate mangos. It tastes real good for the first slice of mango you've had in 7 months. A couple dozen seemed to ripen in late April and early May so far.. and the rest seem to develop according to normal summer schedules.
Here is a photo from May 2nd, 2014:
(http://s13.postimg.cc/5xkzp0itv/IMG_20140502_144611.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5xkzp0itv/)
And a quick snap of the upper part of the tree from today:
(http://s11.postimg.cc/65u2r8mtr/IMG_20150506_161628.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/65u2r8mtr/)
trunk is behind fence, cannot be seen.
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Same fruit from this year in different lighting:
(http://s9.postimg.cc/f7cqzi3jv/IMG_20150503_092116.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/f7cqzi3jv/)
All fruits have a slight beak, this particular specimen had a particularly pronounced beak.
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So been trying to find somewhere outside to ripen mangos, would inside a rubbermaid shed be too hot? I just have no where were the rats at night or squirrels during the day will not be able to get to them. Other option will be to build some sort of box, maybe with chicken wire and 2x2s or 1x2s
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Fisherking73,
I just leave them on a basket in my carport. Luckily, rats and squirrels haven't eaten anything there. You could cover with a thin cloth if that's an issue. Maybe I've gotten a few ants on the sap near the stem, but I just washed it off.
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I would put my money on Squam's ID. The fruit look an awful lot like the Zill photos, like this one:
(http://s4.postimg.cc/bw4bakng9/P3303531.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/bw4bakng9/)
I suspect it has a Haden parent, based on its looks.
TopTropicals says: "Zill mango is a seedling of Haden variety. Selected in Florida. The fruit are born in clusters. The flesh is firm, juicy, and has a very pleasant aroma. The flavor is sweet having just a hint of pineapple."
This mango would have likely been top tier back in the 1940s. But it still tastes awesome between Tax Day and 4/20 ... when for the past 2 years, the tree has dropped a couple of well-ripened, speckled & flaming, fist-sized legitimate mangos. It tastes real good for the first slice of mango you've had in 7 months. A couple dozen seemed to ripen in late April and early May so far.. and the rest seem to develop according to normal summer schedules.
Here is a photo from May 2nd, 2014:
(http://s13.postimg.cc/5xkzp0itv/IMG_20140502_144611.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5xkzp0itv/)
And a quick snap of the upper part of the tree from today:
(http://s11.postimg.cc/65u2r8mtr/IMG_20150506_161628.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/65u2r8mtr/)
trunk is behind fence, cannot be seen.
I am not going to say Squam is wrong, but I do still have some question in my mind. The pictures of the fruit that Murahilin found do seem to resemble the fruit in question. Saying they look exactly alike is a bit of a stretch for me. The beak on this fruit seems more pronounced and, as I said earlier, the size of the fruit seems larger than what I am used to seeing. The PIN picture shows a cm measure for perspective and that does seem to coincide with the size of the fruit. So maybe under the right conditions....like parking lot culture, LOL......the fruits can get that big. Mine are not nearly that big and as best I recall, do not have the beak that this fruit displays. The fruit shown on the tree picture also look different than mine.
Zill is an old cultivar for sure. It still is a very good tasting mango and you would expect no less with the mango royal family naming it after themselves. It is prone to internal breakdown or jelly seed, but other than that, it is worth growing.
I encountered it first back in the 1960's when my grandparents wanted to plant a mango tree in their yard in Surfside. The nurseryman they spoke to recommended Zill and they grew it for many years with excellent production a few blocks inland from the ocean in northern Dade County.
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Saying they look exactly alike is a bit of a stretch for me. The beak on this fruit seems more pronounced . Mine are not nearly that big and as best I recall, do not have the beak that this fruit displays. The fruit shown on the tree picture also look different than mine.
Zill is an old cultivar for sure. It still is a very good tasting mango and you would expect no less with the mango royal family naming it after themselves. It is prone to internal breakdown or jelly seed, but other than that, it is worth growing.
All the fruit have a small trace of a break. This specimen has a particularly big one. The fruit is prone to jelly seed - just like its suspected Haden parent. It has a hint of pineapple flavor. It is grown in a private backyard, with 1/3rd of the tree hanging over the fence into a parking lot - a few blocks from the intracoastal - prime mango growing zone.
It is a very good tasting mango. The quality is such that it is most likely a propagated cultivar (Zill) or in the less likely chance it is a unique local specimen, it would be a candidate for research and propagation. But it's not the new Lemon Zest or anything - just a fine mango.
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Another thing to consider is that if the tree is not that old, i wohld say there are only a small handful of nurseries propagating and selling the Zill variety.
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I had what i wohld describe as 75% legitimate as it could have used more time on the tree however it had split on one cheek so i picked it. It is the first fruit harvested from my tree, a Frances Hargrave . Taste was very tropical with a distinct coconut with a hint of vanilla. I would compare it to that tropical flavored lifesaver that has a creamy peach color. Texture was firm with a hint of unobjectionable fiber. Definitely had great flavor and potential, i can only see this improving with more time on the tree.
(http://s10.postimg.cc/s22d2xew5/20150507_223037.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/s22d2xew5/)
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I had what i wohld describe as 75% legitimate as it could have used more time on the tree however it had split on one cheek so i picked it. It is the first fruit harvested from my tree, a Frances Hargrave . Taste was very tropical with a distinct coconut with a hint of vanilla. I would compare it to that tropical flavored lifesaver that has a creamy peach color. Texture was firm with a hint of unobjectionable fiber. Definitely had great flavor and potential, i can only see this improving with more time on the tree.
(http://s10.postimg.cc/s22d2xew5/20150507_223037.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/s22d2xew5/)
Sounds good. I'm looking forward to trying the fruit from my Francis Hargrave very soon as well. The tree has been in the ground a few years and this is the first time it held fruit.
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This LZ was a drop but was very legitimate. Very sweet and flavor was classic LZ.
(http://s17.postimg.cc/eu6xoko23/20150509_002215.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/eu6xoko23/)
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Ya killing me as I stare at my PPKs :-[ :'(
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The Francis Hargrave sounds great, it looks like an unusual teardrop shape?
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Here is a clear video of the first mango in my neighborhood (Zill or ???) that should offer better detail for ID purposes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w8ydQLqXm0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w8ydQLqXm0)
And a photo:
(http://s24.postimg.cc/s5xqrenjl/IMG_20150509_151116.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/s5xqrenjl/)
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The Francis Hargrave sounds great, it looks like an unusual teardrop shape?
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Here is a clear video of the first mango in my neighborhood (Zill or ???) that should offer better detail for ID purposes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w8ydQLqXm0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w8ydQLqXm0)
And a photo:
(http://s24.postimg.cc/s5xqrenjl/IMG_20150509_151116.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/s5xqrenjl/)
The shape and color continue to be zill-esque but the size of the fruit in the video would definitely be on the high end for zill.
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Brett - yes, the one in the picture and what i have left on the tree are different in that the bottom comes to a distinct point. Tony/Alex - is this consistent with the fruit on your trees?
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FINALLY my first legitimate mango EVER!!! Thanks to the advice etc..... on here, did enough right things to get my PPK happy. First season of fruit on this tree, and this i first of 22 to ripen. Thanks to BSbullie for keeping my patience up lol I wanted to pick it a few days back. Gave it 2 more days and listened to his advice (and wish I could have given her until tonight for a tiny spot of green but work, and go figure spotted the first squirrel in the yard this morning in a long time) and now have an almost perfect 99% yellow, just with a little give first PPK/mango of 2015/ever. This will be the sweetest one ever regardless how it tastes.
(http://s8.postimg.cc/98rn28wvl/20150511_084810_1.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/98rn28wvl/)
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FINALLY my first legitimate mango EVER!!! Thanks to the advice etc..... on here, did enough right things to get my PPK happy. First season of fruit on this tree, and this i first of 22 to ripen. Thanks to BSbullie for keeping my patience up lol I wanted to pick it a few days back. Gave it 2 more days and listened to his advice (and wish I could have given her until tonight for a tiny spot of green but work, and go figure spotted the first squirrel in the yard this morning in a long time) and now have an almost perfect 99% yellow, just with a little give first PPK/mango of 2015/ever. This will be the sweetest one ever regardless how it tastes.
(http://s8.postimg.cc/98rn28wvl/20150511_084810_1.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/98rn28wvl/)
Congratulations. Looks like perfectly ripened PPK. I am surprised we are not already seeing a well gnawed upon seed. What are you waiting for to start eating. BTW.......I have noticed that birds, especially red headed woodpeckers, seem to be the culprits in destroying my PPKs. Anyway......enjoy!!
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Thanks for the heads up on the woodpeckers, would have never suspected them. In my neighborhood we have more woodpeckers than squirrels, or atleast we see woodpeckers more often lol. I have been leaving my dogs out, bought an owl decoy for fence, put a gator replica under the tree LOL Not sure if this has kept the squirrels away the last week or so, but definetly saw the first squirrel in a long time in the backyard this morning. Very curious if it was coming for the ripe PPK or not, if so, we can not be friends LOL
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Good for you Fisherking!!! Nice job...enjoy your delicious and very pretty mango 8) ;D
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A little runt of a Pickering picked two days ago (and by picked I mean I touched it and it fell into my hands). First mango of the season and first fruit ever for this tree. No high expectations due to all that (and fact that it had a few nicks from a weed eater and/or curious rodent), but boy was it delicious and full flavored. Didnt last long as my wife and 5 year old hovered over it. I'm lucky I got a few bites!
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So sad... this will not be my year. My first ever season for fruiting, and the last Mallika I had dropped. It was big enough to look like a mango, but way too small to qualify - maybe 3". So desperate, I am leaving it out to see if it will ripen at all, so I can just get a taste of what they will be like! I'll have to wait all the way until next year... and hopefully get a lot more candidates from both Mallika and Maha (and knowing me possibly another variety if I give in and put yet another tree in the ground...). :(
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My first mango was yesterday, a small Glenn. Good taste but far from what I've come to expect. Then again this is a super early season for me. My Glenn usually ripens in laid-late June. Should have one or two more by this weekend.
Going to hit up Bender this weekend to get a more legitimate fix.
Keith
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A little runt of a Pickering picked two days ago (and by picked I mean I touched it and it fell into my hands). First mango of the season and first fruit ever for this tree. No high expectations due to all that (and fact that it had a few nicks from a weed eater and/or curious rodent), but boy was it delicious and full flavored. Didnt last long as my wife and 5 year old hovered over it. I'm lucky I got a few bites!
Should I wait until my Pickering mango fruit falls from the tree? I have 3 of them on my little 7g tree?
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Do not wait till it drops (at least not on purpose ). The Pickering should attain a substantial to entire golden/peach coloration with red dots/speckling on the shoulder prior to picking. Once picked, let it sit in an area with "outdoor ambient temperature " such as a screened porch, carport or garage until soft and even some black spits form. This is when it will be optimsl flavor, sweetness and its strongest coconut flavor. For best tadte, consume at room temperature, do not refrigerate.
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My first mango was yesterday, a small Glenn. Good taste but far from what I've come to expect. Then again this is a super early season for me. My Glenn usually ripens in laid-late June. Should have one or two more by this weekend.
Going to hit up Bender this weekend to get a more legitimate fix.
Keith
Ahh, the watered down Glenn mango......welcome to South Florida mango reality. They smell wonderful and leave you wanting in the flavor intensity front.
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Pickering almost done with a couple, probably need to remove them in the next day or two and let them ripen in the kitchen. Cogshall close behind. Mallika needs few more weeks, as does NDM's crop from its second flush (the first few dropped/split) -- mid-June, I'd guess. Graham's are smaller still, about golf-ball size; Neelam further behind.
Congrats StPeteMango
My Carrie has only 2 that will probably be ready next month. The NDM has only one and if we have more rain like we did on Tuesday it will most likely split. The Kent is still holding 40 - 50 and the ground is littered with ones that have dropped.
I might have to make a run down to Pine Island in a few weeks to satisfy the cravings.
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I love reading this thread ....... waiting eagerly for our first one in August
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Do not wait till it drops (at least not on purpose ). The Pickering should attain a substantial to entire golden/peach coloration with red dots/speckling on the shoulder prior to picking. Once picked, let it sit in an area with "outdoor ambient temperature " such as a screened porch, carport or garage until soft and even some black spits form. This is when it will be optimsl flavor, sweetness and its strongest coconut flavor. For best tadte, consume at room temperature, do not refrigerate.
Rob,
Based on that how long to you think for this...
(http://s17.postimg.cc/6l42fdsij/20150514_134339.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/6l42fdsij/)
(http://s11.postimg.cc/dxvsif7in/20150508_162547.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/dxvsif7in/)
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My first legitimate mango was this, and it was actually very good ...
(http://s23.postimg.cc/fpyd0okh3/20150512_081313.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/fpyd0okh3/)
Otherwise it's a very close race for first from my yard between Pickering & Graham...hoping before May is out.
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Those Haitian mangoes are, to quote Sir Charles Barkley, turrible. Got a couple at either Western Beef or Penn Dutch - too much fiber, mehh.
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Do not wait till it drops (at least not on purpose ). The Pickering should attain a substantial to entire golden/peach coloration with red dots/speckling on the shoulder prior to picking. Once picked, let it sit in an area with "outdoor ambient temperature " such as a screened porch, carport or garage until soft and even some black spits form. This is when it will be optimsl flavor, sweetness and its strongest coconut flavor. For best tadte, consume at room temperature, do not refrigerate.
Rob,
Based on that how long to you think for this...
(http://s17.postimg.cc/6l42fdsij/20150514_134339.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/6l42fdsij/)
(http://s11.postimg.cc/dxvsif7in/20150508_162547.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/dxvsif7in/)
If I had to guess today based on that picture, 2-4 weeks. Pick it too early and it will wrinkle and/or breakdown internally and not properly ripen to what it should be.
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Thanks Rob
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Picked my second legit mango today - a nicely sized and pleasant aroma Glenn. Could have left it on tree a few more days, but the squirrels were watching. They're always watching. I figure it should be ready to eat this weekend.
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Looks like another PPK will be my second mango of the season. Just noticed her this afternoon, 90 % yellow, probably 2 more days and she should be ready. Gonna leave this one on an extra day longer than the first to see if any flavor change. Coconut cream still holding strong but no color change what so ever.
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What about Cogshall? When do you know when to pick it?
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What about Cogshall? When do you know when to pick it?
The green starts turning a nice yellow.
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What about Cogshall? When do you know when to pick it?
The green starts turning a nice yellow.
and the dull hazy red loses the haze and brightens in color.
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Then my cogshall is a ways away too lol
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What about Cogshall? When do you know when to pick it?
The green starts turning a nice yellow.
Coincidence...just noticed this years first ripe fruit on my Cogshall tree and it had nice vivid yellow and red coloring.
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My 2nd and 3rd mangoes where also from PPK picked today. I don't know if I am just getting better at judging their ripeness, but these 2 especially the third were MUCH better than the first. The third one was like lemon candy with a mild hint of mango. Even my mother in law who is very finicky with fruit and is very traditional with mango flavors did NOT turn this one away. Said it was one of the most delicious mangoes she has eaten in a long time. ;D Very proud of my little tree.
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Ate a small coco cream mango that began ripening on the tree. Not as good as I was expecting, but still very enjoyable. I was expecting that since it was the very first fruit to ripen. I had a similar experience with the glenn last season. The first fruit to ripen was on the small side and it tasted like water with a hint of mango. Much more bland than the fully sized glenns that ripened after that. If that's the case with the coco cream, then I really can't wait to taste a full-sized properly ripened mango. Now I have full-sized coconut cream mango ripening up in the screen enclosure. It was already 50 percent colored-up before I harvested it and is actually now ripening more complete and even quicker than the first pigmy coco cream that I ate.
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Ate a small coco cream mango that began ripening on the tree. Not as good as I was expecting, but still very enjoyable. I was expecting that since it was the very first fruit to ripen. I had a similar experience with the glenn last season. The first fruit to ripen was on the small side and it tasted like water with a hint of mango. Much more bland than the fully sized glenns that ripened after that. If that's the case with the coco cream, then I really can't wait to taste a full-sized properly ripened mango. Now I have full-sized coconut cream mango ripening up in the screen enclosure. It was already 50 percent colored-up before I harvested it and is actually now ripening more complete and even quicker than the first pigmy coco cream that I ate.
What colors or how do you know CoCo is ready to go?
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Mine seems to have started a hint of yellow on the shoulders.
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Just plucked this guy off my tree this morning. Cogshall weighing in at 1lb, 1.75oz.
(http://s3.postimg.cc/v3y5stijj/20150518_064441.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/v3y5stijj/)
However, I also found this one on the ground. Happened during the night so I'm guessing a rat. . .
(http://s13.postimg.cc/qqeweoys3/20150518_064124.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/qqeweoys3/)
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Nice pics of your mangoes everyone and thanks for all the advice/info on when to pick. Another question: do NDM normally grow in clumps? I have some fruits that have 2,3,4 growing right next to each.
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Nice pics of your mangoes everyone and thanks for all the advice/info on when to pick. Another question: do NDM normally grow in clumps? I have some fruits that have 2,3,4 growing right next to each.
They can, but do not always. Clump growers will generally be smaller than single held fruits.
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Not Counting Rosi, my first legitimate mango from my yard was a delicious Dot I picked yesterday.
I had a half-size Dot last week, but it tasted a bit of wine (fermentation?).
Through the kindness of forum members I got to taste my first Angie this week. I found it a bit disappointing. But this is still May, gosh darn it, and I suspect the tree it came from is still quite young. The flesh near the skin reminded me of Graham, which (for me) is not necessarily a good thing.
The Fantasia Princess I tasted was good, but not as rich as the mid-season ones I remember from last year.
(http://s18.postimg.cc/phbofguh1/DSCN1310_Large.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/phbofguh1/)
(http://s18.postimg.cc/rael3sfnp/Fairchild_Prodigy.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/rael3sfnp/)
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Not Counting Rosi, my first legitimate mango from my yard was a delicious Dot I picked yesterday.
I had a half-size Dot last week, but it tasted a bit of wine (fermentation?).
Through the kindness of forum members I got to taste my first Angie this week. I found it a bit disappointing. But this is still May, gosh darn it, and I suspect the tree it came from is still quite young. The flesh near the skin reminded me of Graham, which (for me) is not necessarily a good thing.
The Fantasia Princess I tasted was good, but not as rich as the mid-season ones I remember from last year.
(http://s18.postimg.cc/phbofguh1/DSCN1310_Large.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/phbofguh1/)
(http://s18.postimg.cc/rael3sfnp/Fairchild_Prodigy.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/rael3sfnp/)
Did the Angie taste like Carrie?
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This is my second year with Angie fruit. One has ripened. Not a sweet mango. So far I'm very disappointed with this variety--another case of Richard Campbell-overhype? And yes, the flavor is unpleasant near the skin. It does have the lack of vigor/size thing going for it.
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Sorry Alex, I haven't tasted Carrie that often since my tree died many years ago. So I can't compare them.
But there are at least a dozen Angies on my tiny tree, so I will have more opportunities to evaluate them.
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Sorry Alex, I haven't tasted Carrie that often since my tree died many years ago. So I can't compare them.
But there are at least a dozen Angies on my tiny tree, so I will have more opportunities to evaluate them.
If/when you decide to junk it I will be happy to adopt it :D
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Picked six more ripening coconut creams and my first NDM #4. :)
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Picked six more ripening coconut creams and my first NDM #4. :)
Be careful with the coco creams. They will get real soft, almost Carrie like, if they begin to get too ripe and due to their high sugar content will quickly ferment when overripe.
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Thanks for the warning Rob. I don't let them get too soft. I just let them color-up fully and soften just a bit (still firm) and eat them that way. The last coco cream I ate reminded me of a sweet mango-nectar drink called LOOZA.
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Ate a small coco cream mango that began ripening on the tree. Not as good as I was expecting, but still very enjoyable. I was expecting that since it was the very first fruit to ripen. I had a similar experience with the glenn last season. The first fruit to ripen was on the small side and it tasted like water with a hint of mango. Much more bland than the fully sized glenns that ripened after that. If that's the case with the coco cream, then I really can't wait to taste a full-sized properly ripened mango. Now I have full-sized coconut cream mango ripening up in the screen enclosure. It was already 50 percent colored-up before I harvested it and is actually now ripening more complete and even quicker than the first pigmy coco cream that I ate.
What colors or how do you know CoCo is ready to go?
They begin to have sharp-yellow streaks on the fruit and the reddish parts begin to turn into a bright red-pink color. The colors are more vivid compared to the regular blush you get from sun exposure. I don't let them color-up too much on the tree to avoid any bird problems. I have them outside in the 90 degree weather in a screen enclosure. Once they have no green color left, I bring them inside.
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Thanks for the warning Rob. I don't let them get too soft. I just let them color-up fully and soften just a bit (still firm) and eat them that way. The last coco cream I ate reminded me of a sweet mango drink called LOOZA.
Eeks, I know what that is. A coco cream should not taste anything like that. :(
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Thanks for the warning Rob. I don't let them get too soft. I just let them color-up fully and soften just a bit (still firm) and eat them that way. The last coco cream I ate reminded me of a sweet mango drink called LOOZA.
Eeks, I know what that is. A coco cream should not taste anything like that. :(
Don't know how they taste now, but several years ago they were good. Can it be the fact that it is the tree's first crop and the second mango to ripen? Also, maybe I'm not letting it get soft enough? Or, my taste buds aren't too good in detecting minor flavors of a mango, except for super sweet rich mango flavor.
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Pickering starting to turn yellow from top to bottom and shoulder with some light red on it. Pick it when? 10 days?
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae128/redrocket44/09fdd6da-2482-4a44-b4df-9b825047b7e1.jpg) (http://s964.photobucket.com/user/redrocket44/media/09fdd6da-2482-4a44-b4df-9b825047b7e1.jpg.html)
NDM getting big, still green so still a few weeks away?
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae128/redrocket44/ddd8030a-7be1-4be5-82de-6d55136bf8ec.jpg) (http://s964.photobucket.com/user/redrocket44/media/ddd8030a-7be1-4be5-82de-6d55136bf8ec.jpg.html)
NDM fruits in clumps, should i thin it out a bit or leave alone?
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae128/redrocket44/00fa5370-2782-4c98-acea-f7625779153e.jpg) (http://s964.photobucket.com/user/redrocket44/media/00fa5370-2782-4c98-acea-f7625779153e.jpg.html)
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That Pickering is a ways away. Just keep an eye on it. It will turn a yellow/gold/orange color. You basically want the whole fruit to turn before picking. It will then need to sit till it gets soft, possibly even wait till it starts to get black spotting for maximum sweetness and flavor.
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Thanks Rob!!
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My first mango of the year was Manzana followed by Alcanfor and Grefé. Rositas are sitting on the table waiting their turn. Grefé has been the best so far, a flavor some where between coconut and mandarin. The Rositas are tiny mangos, no bigger than a goose egg.
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FINALLY my first legitimate mango EVER!!! Thanks to the advice etc..... on here, did enough right things to get my PPK happy. First season of fruit on this tree, and this i first of 22 to ripen. Thanks to BSbullie for keeping my patience up lol I wanted to pick it a few days back. Gave it 2 more days and listened to his advice (and wish I could have given her until tonight for a tiny spot of green but work, and go figure spotted the first squirrel in the yard this morning in a long time) and now have an almost perfect 99% yellow, just with a little give first PPK/mango of 2015/ever. This will be the sweetest one ever regardless how it tastes.
Congrats man! Will b sweet for sure
(http://s8.postimg.cc/98rn28wvl/20150511_084810_1.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/98rn28wvl/)
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Pickering starting to turn yellow from top to bottom and shoulder with some light red on it. Pick it when? 10 days?
When getting ripe-- Pickering develops unique red shoulders that look like they have droplets of red paint dripping down Jackson Pollack style. I have not seen this on any other mango. I have Pickering that look like this right now (me being 200 miles south of you) but they still rock hard. I keep looking but they are inedible. My take is you have 6 more weeks to go.
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my first legit mangos from a generous forum member from Florida
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af304/culov/Tropica%20fruits/IMG_8086.jpg)
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My first illegitimate mangoes of 2015 probably came from Mexico. But you probably don't want to hear about that? My first legitimate mangoes--i guess they can be considered legitimate as i fathered them-- seem to have come all at once. Summer has really sprung here early. They're dropping like crazy, it's going to be hard to keep up.
(http://fruitlovers.com/Gallery1/MangoesFirstOf 2015May.jpg)
Bottom row: Kuini, Kasturi, Harders, Julie
Top row: Florigon, Smith, Ah Ping, Haden.
(Also have some Harumanis mangoes that i forgot to include in photo.)
Very top row: Bulala (Nephelium phillippinensis), Lychee Brewster, Rambutan Rappiah.
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PPK. Stem was oozing fragrant, clear sap down the fruit, so I picked it.
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n200/dangermouse2006/flowers%20and%20plants/Mangoes/PPK/PPK_05-27-15_zpspaiqodlf.jpg)
DM
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You picked it correctly, now let's see what you can do with the eating part of the equation. Don't waste any time. It is at the peak of perfection right now!
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DOT! Knock you to your knees intensity. First crop of three distinct blooms this spring. Holy crap, they are great!
(http://s12.postimg.cc/qxu2upicp/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/qxu2upicp/)
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DOT! Knock you to your knees intensity. First crop of three distinct blooms this spring. Holy crap, they are great!
(http://s12.postimg.cc/qxu2upicp/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/qxu2upicp/)
Amen to that!!
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Dot, PPK, tough acts to follow for my entry :D, but I've been throughly enjoying some tree ripened Rosigolds off of my tree. Sweet, meaty, and probably truly fiberless even around the finger like seed. They have been bigger than my Mallika's this year. I'm keeping this tree- in the ground too :).
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Hello, first time poster and mango lover here. Have been growing mangoes for about 5 years. Many smallish trees coming into production. First high quality mango was a Haden, and then I was hooked. Found this forum and have benefited greatly from the very knowledgeable growers here. Thank you for your expertise!
My first mangoes this year were some Ataulfos from Mexico I bought at an Indian food store. Maybe that doesn't count as legitimate :) Next was an LZ that I picked too early, hence the tartness(wanted someone from the Philippines to try before they left :D). Then was a first season Rosigold. Nice strong flavor (we have had almost no rain on the east coast of florida this summer), but a little disappointing. I did not think it was very sweet. Maybe the ones later will be better. I have a bunch of NDM4 on the tree and am thankful for low rainfall. Choc anon was also a first year mango for me. When ripened until yellow on the tree and then a day or two on the counter, this was a pretty good sweet straightforward mango. Not very complex like LZ or Edward, but had a definite smooth sweet coconut flavor to its profile. I liked it. Now if I can get it to bloom again this year and have some mangos for Christmas, I will be ecstatic!
Also bought a 8 edwards and 2 Carries which were just awsome as usual. Yep, I'm one of those who was blown away by the strong Carrie flavor. Am also interested in other mangoes that taste like Carrie and can extend the season. Have heard that Angie may taste a little like Carrie. Does anyone know?
E