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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2300 on: September 15, 2017, 02:38:57 PM »
Bad news: the owner of this house apparently passed away recently.

Good news: he willed the property to the City of Lomita to develop into Teuchert Park! It's beautiful! So now anyone can go and view this extraordinary dragonfruit plant.

Bad news: There are dozens of dropped blossoms on the ground, and no fruit set. This may need a cross-pollinator.

Good news: I might sneak into the park some time and stealth-plant another variety  :D

Bad news: There are no hours posted, and when I stopped by yesterday evening, the gate was locked.  >:(
The gate was open a few days ago, so I walked in. It's wonderful! There are 4 giant Dragonfruit vines climbing up 4 trees! There's also some nice citrus, fig, and pomegranates, but we're all here for the DF, so I'll ignore those others for now. Look at the lower branches/roots on the first one! I have OJ-sized hands:












All the DF have dozens and dozens of dropped flowers, and no fruit set right now, so it's possible that all 4 are the same variety, and that it's a variety that needs cross-pollination. I've been watching the largest of the 4 vines for 2 seasons now, and I've never seen it set fruit.

I also have a cutting from a neighbor of this tree, who allegedly got his vine from this mother tree, and I successfully pollinated a flower on my cutting from my La Verne Pink last year.

A couple of thoughts:
  • This park is going to be _full_ of flowers in 4-6 weeks, when the next flush of flowers blooms.
  • This could be an interesting place for all of us DF fans in Los Angeles to meet up, collect pollen, pollinate some flowers, exchange cuttings, etc.
    • It would be a night-time meet, when the park is typically closed, but I/we might be able to ask the park manager to open it for us. Maybe.
    • 2 of the 4 vines are on trees that are outside the gate, so we could still see them if the gates are closed, although the neighbors might get antsy with a bunch of wild DF kooks running around on their streets with pruners, cuttings, and pollen brushes.
    • Who's interested in meeting up? I'll drive by every week as the blooms get closer, so we can set a date.
  • Assuming I'm correct about the vines, this park could really use another variety to donate pollen to all these vines.
    • I'm assuming S-8 would be a good variety to use. I'll see if I can figure out who the park manager is, so I can ask.
    • Maybe the City doesn't want the park full of dropped fruit. Then again it's already got figs, pomegranates, and citrus dropping all over the place.
    • They should probably post a "Fruit collection policy"
  • This really ought to be named Dragonfruit Park! Or maybe "Teuchert's Dragonfruit Park."
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2301 on: September 15, 2017, 08:46:56 PM »
Woah! If only I lived nearby.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2302 on: September 15, 2017, 08:50:05 PM »
In more pedestrian news, last night I had two varieties flower simultaneously, for the first time ever! La Verne Pink and Physical Graffiti.


I'm 0/10 on crossing these two so far, but I've always used stored pollen, so maybe my storage/freezing technique is poor.


Last night I transferred the fresh pollen directly from flower to flower, so if they're compatible, this should work. Fingers crossed!


My yellow and my white varieties are also pushing buds right now, so I might finally get my first fruit this season.
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2303 on: September 15, 2017, 10:57:10 PM »
In more pedestrian news, last night I had two varieties flower simultaneously, for the first time ever! La Verne Pink and Physical Graffiti.


I'm 0/10 on crossing these two so far, but I've always used stored pollen, so maybe my storage/freezing technique is poor.


Last night I transferred the fresh pollen directly from flower to flower, so if they're compatible, this should work. Fingers crossed!


My yellow and my white varieties are also pushing buds right now, so I might finally get my first fruit this season.

I have a 6 year old LaVerne Red taking me 3 years to find the right pollinator.  S8 is the right key.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2304 on: September 16, 2017, 01:18:55 AM »
In more pedestrian news, last night I had two varieties flower simultaneously, for the first time ever! La Verne Pink and Physical Graffiti.

I'm 0/10 on crossing these two so far, but I've always used stored pollen, so maybe my storage/freezing technique is poor.

Last night I transferred the fresh pollen directly from flower to flower, so if they're compatible, this should work. Fingers crossed!

My yellow and my white varieties are also pushing buds right now, so I might finally get my first fruit this season.
I have a 6 year old LaVerne Red taking me 3 years to find the right pollinator.  S8 is the right key.
I have two S-8 plants that I put in pots about a year ago, and they took a looooong time to get going. But they're growing now, and might have flowers next year. I hope.

I will go down to Teuchert Park in collect pollen next time those all bloom.
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2305 on: September 17, 2017, 01:43:51 AM »
In more pedestrian news, last night I had two varieties flower simultaneously, for the first time ever! La Verne Pink and Physical Graffiti.


I'm 0/10 on crossing these two so far, but I've always used stored pollen, so maybe my storage/freezing technique is poor.


Last night I transferred the fresh pollen directly from flower to flower, so if they're compatible, this should work. Fingers crossed!


My yellow and my white varieties are also pushing buds right now, so I might finally get my first fruit this season.

I would love to see pictures of the fruit if you're able to harvest any. Good luck!

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2306 on: September 17, 2017, 03:31:43 AM »

I have a 6 year old LaVerne Red taking me 3 years to find the right pollinator.  S8 is the right key.
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You will find that the right pollinator is the one that is different from the one you are growing. Pollinating Dragonfruit is not a complicated thing. S-8 is possibly a good pollinator but mine has never flowered and I use other varieties pollen to get plenty of fruit every year.
If it's taken 3 years of flowering to find the right pollinator, chances are you were doing something wrong.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2307 on: September 17, 2017, 12:14:53 PM »
Sandy, unless youre planning on doing cross-pollination experimentation, I would avoid growing from seeds. I would almost say don't do it. Not only are you going to add years to your wait for fruit production, you're also going to be playing roulette with the type of fruit you get when the plant matures. The preferred method for reproducing dragon fruit is from cuttings for a reason: you know exactly what youre going to get, a copy of the plant the cutting came from. Seeds have a random chance of picking up traits, both good and bad, from their parent plants. And if you self-pollinate, theres a chance you can come up with weak or genetically inferior stock. Self-pollination is fine for fruit production, because we're eating the flesh of the plant, basically the unaltered womb of the mother plant, but the developing seeds (aka offspring) can still end up undesirable. However, if you do plan on trying your hand at finding new varieties, wash your seeds, dry them and store them in an air tight container, preferably with one of those Silica Gel packs that come in packaging, the ones that say "Do Not Eat" on them. This will keep your seeds dry for storage.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2308 on: September 17, 2017, 07:43:34 PM »
Sandy, unless youre planning on doing cross-pollination experimentation, I would avoid growing from seeds. I would almost say don't do it. Not only are you going to add years to your wait for fruit production, you're also going to be playing roulette with the type of fruit you get when the plant matures. The preferred method for reproducing dragon fruit is from cuttings for a reason: you know exactly what youre going to get, a copy of the plant the cutting came from. Seeds have a random chance of picking up traits, both good and bad, from their parent plants. And if you self-pollinate, theres a chance you can come up with weak or genetically inferior stock. Self-pollination is fine for fruit production, because we're eating the flesh of the plant, basically the unaltered womb of the mother plant, but the developing seeds (aka offspring) can still end up undesirable. However, if you do plan on trying your hand at finding new varieties, wash your seeds, dry them and store them in an air tight container, preferably with one of those Silica Gel packs that come in packaging, the ones that say "Do Not Eat" on them. This will keep your seeds dry for storage.

Thank you Rob. My friends were given some seeds and he forgot about them. I went over and I mentioned to him that I have a bloom oniy DF plant and that's when he told me he has some seeds that were given to him. But he forgot what variety it was. I'll skip them, since he forgot what variety seeds was given to him. But he kept them in the fridge so I don't even know if it's still viable.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2309 on: September 17, 2017, 07:45:37 PM »
Hello guys, my dragonfuit is flowering for the first time, it is big. Is this normal?





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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2310 on: September 17, 2017, 08:42:26 PM »
Hello guys, my dragonfuit is flowering for the first time, it is big. Is this normal?





Yup it's normal. Some varieties have flowers that are 12 " in diameter when opened.
Can I ask what variety you have?

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2311 on: September 23, 2017, 09:42:08 PM »
Can someone confirm for me if this is a sign that it's getting too much sun? It's only happening to this side that faces the sun. Thanks!






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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2312 on: September 24, 2017, 01:35:16 AM »
IM wondering what is the best tasting most productive DR
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« Reply #2313 on: September 24, 2017, 09:26:19 AM »
Labeled as delight, but I think is something else... Can someone help to ID?


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« Reply #2314 on: September 24, 2017, 05:41:57 PM »
I got my Dragon Fruit bed set up this week. 10 posts planted with 4 cuttings each of a good fruiting self pollinating pink fleshed variety found already growing on the property. Mixed pineapple intercrop underneath the posts. Irrigation is with micro-sprinklers and each post is surrounded by compost. I'm using Nutricote slow release fertilizer and will also include foliar feeding with home made fish emulsion.



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« Reply #2315 on: September 24, 2017, 11:23:55 PM »
I got my Dragon Fruit bed set up this week. 10 posts planted with 4 cuttings each of a good fruiting self pollinating pink fleshed variety found already growing on the property. Mixed pineapple intercrop underneath the posts. Irrigation is with micro-sprinklers and each post is surrounded by compost. I'm using Nutricote slow release fertilizer and will also include foliar feeding with home made fish emulsion.



Very nice!
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2316 on: September 24, 2017, 11:58:05 PM »
That's pretty awesome.

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« Reply #2317 on: September 30, 2017, 05:00:10 AM »
Guys, what's happening to my dragon fruit trees? Do I need to cut that part that have the disease off? Also, on the second pic, why is that flower turning yellow?  Please help





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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2318 on: September 30, 2017, 05:07:12 PM »
I have the same problem getting orange spots on my dragon fruit


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« Reply #2319 on: September 30, 2017, 05:16:56 PM »
Guys, what's happening to my dragon fruit trees? Do I need to cut that part that have the disease off? Also, on the second pic, why is that flower turning yellow?  Please help





Hi it could be a  fungus/rust that's on your plant
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2320 on: September 30, 2017, 05:32:50 PM »
I have the same problem getting orange spots on my dragon fruit


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« Reply #2321 on: October 01, 2017, 01:24:49 PM »
Guys, what's happening to my dragon fruit trees? Do I need to cut that part that have the disease off? Also, on the second pic, why is that flower turning yellow?  Please help





The flower bud that's yellow is bud blast. It's going to fall off and not bloom.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2322 on: October 01, 2017, 02:46:33 PM »
I have the same problem getting orange spots on my dragon fruit. Should I cut the branch?


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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2323 on: October 01, 2017, 07:07:42 PM »
In more pedestrian news, last night I had two varieties flower simultaneously, for the first time ever! La Verne Pink and Physical Graffiti.

I'm 0/10 on crossing these two so far, but I've always used stored pollen, so maybe my storage/freezing technique is poor.

Last night I transferred the fresh pollen directly from flower to flower, so if they're compatible, this should work. Fingers crossed!
And I have fruit set! La Verne Pink:





and Physical Graffiti:





It's only 2 fruits, but that's ∞ better than no fruit.


When I should I pick them? Does this guy have it right? He sure sounds authoritative :D
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #2324 on: October 01, 2017, 07:31:20 PM »
And I have fruit set! La Verne Pink:

and Physical Graffiti:

It's only 2 fruits, but that's ∞ better than no fruit.


When I should I pick them? Does this guy have it right? He sure sounds authoritative :D

Romero Lobo is an expert, but he does not have La Verne Pink in his collection.

Some Dragon Fruit is best when picked when fully red...  some others taste better when still partially green.