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Title: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: LEOOEL on January 18, 2013, 11:39:55 PM
Can someone please comment on which is the best Jackfruit variety when it comes to Sweet-Taste and Productivity?

The very best Jackfruit cultivars that I'm aware of (in the USA) are Mai1, Mai2, Mai3, J30, J31, NS1 and Excalibur-Red.

Has anyone tasted all of these varieties and can you comment on the one that has the best Sweet-flavor and is the Most-Productive?

I only have one location/spot in my yard to plant a grafted Jackfruit tree; I already have Black-Gold and Sweet-Fairchild.

Please exclude any nasty Jackfruit varieties that split/crack wide open when they ripen.

And, please feel free to comment even if you've not tasted all of the above cultivars.

Thanks



Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: bsbullie on January 19, 2013, 12:07:06 AM
I don't think there is any one true answer to this.  I would eliminate J-30 and Mai 2 (Mai 2 cause it doesn't seem to be as productive) and add Dang Suria/Red Morning, Bangkok Lemon and Excalibur Gold, otherwise depending on who you talk to, what they are growing and where they are grown, they are all very good varieties that you would no go wrong with.  Noel will most likely tell you that J-31 is the winner while I would be hard pressed to chose from Excalibur Red, Dang Suria, Mai 1, Mai 3 and hard not to keep Bangkok Lemon in the mix.  To be fair to Noel, I have tasted his J-31 and it is definitely excellent but I am partial to the aforementioned Reds and the Mais (1 & 3).  I am sure Harry, Clint and Sheehan will chime in and their opinions should also be highly regarded.

I know this was very little help but it is honest advice.  You are going to have to throw a dart and pick or wait till later this year and taste them for yourself before you buy...
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: FloridaGreenMan on January 19, 2013, 09:39:32 AM
Rob
I will agree with you here...there are many excellent Jaks besides the J-31. It's in my top three for taste but every year I am tasting more new Jaks that are outstanding. The J-31 did not hold up well in the 2009-10 cold wave we had so it's slipped on my list of favorites.  I have tried all the ones you mentioned except for the Ex-Red and they are very good quality fruits. Any one of those can be recommended. My seedling of the Dang Suria which I called DS-2 was outstanding this past year, very productive and a vigorous cold hardy grower. Bottom line, there is no one "perfect" Jak, but there are many great ones!       
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: HMHausman on January 19, 2013, 02:25:25 PM
My seedling of the Dang Suria which I called DS-2     

I thought you renamed it "Recher".
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Seadation on January 19, 2013, 03:12:53 PM
LoL!!
LEOOL have you tried sweet Fairchild? and if so what are your thoughts? I have a tree but am waiting for it to fruit and have yet to try it.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: mangomandan on January 19, 2013, 04:39:45 PM
My seedling of the Dang Suria which I called DS-2     

I thought you renamed it "Recher".

  I don't usually LOL, but......   You are the master, Harry. 
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: FloridaGreenMan on January 19, 2013, 05:02:27 PM
My seedling of the Dang Suria which I called DS-2     

I thought you renamed it "Recher".

I am LMAO........
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Tropicalgrower89 on January 19, 2013, 05:08:52 PM
My seedling of the Dang Suria which I called DS-2     

I thought you renamed it "Recher".

LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Sleepdoc on January 19, 2013, 05:36:48 PM
"Recher" :)   ... Very good :)

Anyway, I agree with the above selections, although I have not tasted all the above named varieties.  I am however growing most of them. 

I would add the Black Gold x Tabouey seedling Harry is growing ( for my palate the Best I've had so far).  Problem is, the only source for that is Harry's tree. 
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: LEOOEL on January 20, 2013, 12:04:45 AM
Seadation,
Fairchild tastes great! I got the tree several years ago at a Jackfruit event held at Fairchild Tropical Garden. Recommended by none other that Chris Rollins himself.
He described it as a fast growing, productive and sweet tasting Jackfruit. And, I was hooked.
The only problem is that I planted it under the shade of the neighbor's giant Royal Poinciana.
The reason I did this is because I wanted the Sweet-Fairchild to put up a fight and take the sunshine that falls on my yard, back from the R. P. that is stealing it.
And believe me, it's putting up a great fight. It's growing fast and slender, shootin straight up for the sunlight. And, trying to take it back from the R.P.
The only problem is (because of the fight for sunlight that is going on), the tree is producing only about 2 to 3 jackfruits per year.
Perhaps if it was in a sunny location it would be very productive, like Chris Rollins said.
Other than the low production, so far, I just love the fruit. To the point almost of addiction.
For example, when I clean the fruit and serve all of it to family and friends, there is usually someone who says: "That's a weird looking fruit, I'm not eating it!"
I then try to control my ego as best I can. ;D So that I can live with myself, I try to convince them, really hard, that they will love it, if they taste it.
But more often than not, they'll refuse it.
Then I'll ultimately say (to myself), Yes!!!! ;D Because I'll most likey get to eat their share. So much for being sincere.
Will, there you go, I hope this gives you an idea of how much I like the taste and texture of the fruit.
The size, I'd say medium-large, some latex but manageable. It's regarded by some as being one of the great Jackfruits of the world!
I hope this gives you an idea about the specs of the Sweet-Fairchild Jackfruit. ; full disclosure, this is the only Jackfruit that I've ever tasted.
Leooel
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: LEOOEL on January 20, 2013, 01:51:48 AM
That's very funny Harry. LOL  ;D

Great replies/recommendations people. Thank you.

I'm trying to play it safe and was down to 3 finalists to choose from: Mai1, Mai2 and J31.
After getting your input, I've deleted Mai2 (thanks for the heads up Rob). So, now I'm down to Mai1 and J-31.
The reasons why these 2 are the finalists are:
Mai1: Famous taste with almost/practically no latex and is productive from what I've gathered online.
J-31: Great taste and texture, productive, large, minimal latex? And, from one of the Tom Cruise movies (almost), "You Had Me At:" Will often produce off-season fruit during the fall and winter. ;D

Seriously, is this true? Has anyone had this experience with J-31? That it will often produce off-season fruit during the fall and winter? Any input on this will be appreciated.

FloridaGreenMan,
Ex-Red, great nickname, I like that! LOL  ;D
But seriously speaking, as always, thank you so much for your valuable info.
I've been trying to get the grafted Excalibur-Red for the past 6 months. But, the people at Excalibur Nursery keep telling me to just wait 2 more months.
I love Excalibur, but I've decided to play it safe and exclude it from my list to choose from. Perhaps down the road I'll purchase it. But, I want to see and taste it first.
By the way, if I choose the J-31 (very tempted to), I hope it won't be affected too much by cold winters, since I'm further south from you. I'm in Miami, FL.

Hey guys, I had no idea there was so much fruit-tree/jackfruit activity going on up there in Boynton Beach, Coral Springs, Davie... You guys are awesome! 8)

I only have 4 spots in my yard to plant:
(Spot1) A grafted winter ripening avocado cultivar (that I haven't really found/decided on yet)
(Spot2) A grafted Excalibur-Nursery Spanish-Lime fruit tree, with free-stone in the fruit and male/female flowers on the same tree.
Excalibur told me, in the middle of last year, that it would be available sometime this year.
(Spot3) A grafted Sweet Heart TM Lychee fruit tree.
(Spot4) A grafted Jackfruit cultivar (J-31 and/or Mai1).

I am considering to forget about finding a grafted winter ripenin avocado and replace it with Jackfruit!
If it's true that J-31 Jackfruit will produce off-season fruit during the winter and fall. Then, I'll just plant the J-31 and Mia1, and forget about the winter ripening avo (if it exists at all).

Before I make my final decision, I'm planning to find some time/$, and set up an appointment to visit Richard Campbell (in my last post I miswrote his name, sorry) at Fairchild's Williams Grove. And, if Mr. Campbell would be so kind, see what he thinks.

Thank you for all the help. I'll keep you guys posted.
Leooel

Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: mangomandan on January 20, 2013, 09:18:38 AM
It sounds like you are well along with your planning.   After you've filled those 4 spots you will start to wonder if you could have somehow squeezed out six spots instead  ::)

Enjoy your visit with Dr. Campbell. He's my hero, as was his father before him.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: bsbullie on January 20, 2013, 10:14:32 AM
Both Excalibur Red and Excalibur Gold, grafted, ARE now available for purchase in a 3 gallon at Excalibur.  I would not exclude Mai 3 or Dang Suria/Red Morning from your list.

I highly doubt there will be any grafted Spanish Lime/Genip/Malmoncillo available this year at Excalibur.  I think it will still be a little ways off having them ready for sale.

Just as a point of info, Sweetheart Lychees (no need to use the "TM" when you type it) are not grafted, they are air layered.

As far as off season jackfruit, it is not limited to J-31.  In 2011, they seem to be common from the Mais, Bangkok Lemon, Dang Suria/Red Morning and both the Excalibur named offerings.  In 2012, not so much.  I will say, however, that it seems that both the aforementioned Reds are later season jaks.  As with some other fruit, a lot of the ripening/harvest timing depends on the prior year weather.

As for latex, both the Mais "seem" to have less latex but to be honest, so do the Reds...while it may be based on varietals but as Oscar has said, I believe harvesting at the proper time and cleaning at the proper ripeness play a large role.  It has been noted by a few that refrigeration prior to cleaning may also play a role in the suppressing of the latex.

I am not stating that Chris Rollins does not know jak (ok, couldn't resist) but I question what he has tasted, especially when you bought the Sweet Fairchild.  For one, I find it odd that if it is that fantastic that it is not in demand by other growers and/or available from other growers.  What is the texture?

Years ago, when Richard Campbell first tried the Mai 1, he was skeptical of its quality and reputation, feeling that he had the best of the best at Fairchild, until he tasted it...well, he ate his words and was blown away by the taste and edible fruit to waste ratio of each properly pollinated fruit.

Excalibur will be open tomorrow, Monday, January 21 (I say this since it is MLK holiday), come on up and I will show you all the different grafted jackfruit...we also have some excellent Sweetheart Lychees and some really nice 25 gallon Hak Ips.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: mangomandan on January 20, 2013, 10:38:25 AM
Rob, I'm going to try to get to Excalibur Monday as well.   I'd love to learn more from you about the Jaks there.  Right now I have baby J-31 and Borneo Red.    I think I could squeeze in one more.  I like a rich flavor and a vigorous tree. Crisp is nice but texture isn't a deal-breaker.    I had one of the Mais a few years ago, don't know which one.  It was kind of a weak grower for me, and then the hurricanes finished it off.   :-\
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: mangomandan on January 25, 2013, 07:54:21 PM
Thanks again, Rob. The Excalibur Red looks great, as does the South Florida persimmon that I picked up this morning.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Mike T on January 25, 2013, 08:09:49 PM
I bet J33/tekam will make its way to Florida before long.
http://www.mbg.com.my/MBG/news-a-updates/1053-sweet-success-for-malaysias-veteran-honey-fruits-grower-jackfruit-farm-.html (http://www.mbg.com.my/MBG/news-a-updates/1053-sweet-success-for-malaysias-veteran-honey-fruits-grower-jackfruit-farm-.html)
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: mangomandan on January 25, 2013, 08:26:33 PM
Amazing pictures of those J33s.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: fruitlovers on January 26, 2013, 02:02:49 AM
Best tasting? Best tasting to whom? It's like picking the most beautiful woman in the world. Who will be Miss Universe? It all depends on the panel of judges that happen to be picked, and their own particular preferences and prejudices, not on any inherent beauty in the constestants.
Notice also that like with best tasting fruits, the most beautiful woman in the world changes from year to year.  ;)
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Mike T on January 26, 2013, 03:32:31 AM
I do like to line varieties up together pagent style and compare them.There is no where to hide then.Admittedly taste is different for everyone and there is much variation within varieties depending on conditions they were grown in a million other factors.I have to admit that quite often the older varieties that I used to like, have really let themselves go over the years and are not quite as good as they used to be.It can't possibly be that my taste has changed.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: fruitlovers on January 26, 2013, 04:37:42 AM
I do like to line varieties up together pagent style and compare them.There is no where to hide then.Admittedly taste is different for everyone and there is much variation within varieties depending on conditions they were grown in a million other factors.I have to admit that quite often the older varieties that I used to like, have really let themselves go over the years and are not quite as good as they used to be.It can't possibly be that my taste has changed.

Yes, i like to do the same: compare varieties side by side. I find that's really the only way you can really judge which one you like best, if there such a one. If you eat one cultivar in June and another in October your taste memories will be quite faded by then and the comparison will not be fair.
But it's a far cry from saying that you like one particular variety the most to calling it the best one, as in the best one in the world, or even the best one in Florida. Which implies it's absolutely the best for everyone there.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: HMHausman on January 26, 2013, 08:08:31 AM
I bet J33/tekam will make its way to Florida before long.
http://www.mbg.com.my/MBG/news-a-updates/1053-sweet-success-for-malaysias-veteran-honey-fruits-grower-jackfruit-farm-.html (http://www.mbg.com.my/MBG/news-a-updates/1053-sweet-success-for-malaysias-veteran-honey-fruits-grower-jackfruit-farm-.html)

Great post.  Not sure why, but my favorite line in the article is:

Some people love jackfruits due to its energy content  --  98 % of jackfruit gives energy.  The fat content in this fruit is only 3 % -- hence, it augurs well for those who are looking at slimming down.

I think I need to go on a jakfruit diet.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Cookie Monster on January 26, 2013, 11:55:18 AM
hehe I had to look that word up.

I bet J33/tekam will make its way to Florida before long.
http://www.mbg.com.my/MBG/news-a-updates/1053-sweet-success-for-malaysias-veteran-honey-fruits-grower-jackfruit-farm-.html (http://www.mbg.com.my/MBG/news-a-updates/1053-sweet-success-for-malaysias-veteran-honey-fruits-grower-jackfruit-farm-.html)

Great post.  Not sure why, but my favorite line in the article is:

Some people love jackfruits due to its energy content  --  98 % of jackfruit gives energy.  The fat content in this fruit is only 3 % -- hence, it augurs well for those who are looking at slimming down.

I think I need to go on a jakfruit diet.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Mike T on January 26, 2013, 09:12:51 PM
I was a little misleading in referring to J33 as tekam as I thought they are actually the same variety.They are very similar elite Malaysian types held in highest regard.
http://animagro.blogspot.com.au/2011/11/papaya-post-harvest.html (http://animagro.blogspot.com.au/2011/11/papaya-post-harvest.html)
Both would be welcome additions to the jackfruits available in any area.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Mr. Clean on January 27, 2013, 01:02:12 AM
I would eliminate J-30 and Mai 2 (Mai 2 cause it doesn't seem to be as productive) ...

That might explain why I was able to buy a Mai2, 3 gal for $15 at the Rare Fruit Tree Sale.   :( 
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Mr. Clean on January 27, 2013, 01:05:49 AM
I'm not an expert on Jackfruit, but I think there is a best jackfruit.  The best jackfruit is one that someone else has already cleaned and is ready to eat.  For those in Florida, it's like how it's better to have a friend with a boat, than to own a boat yourself.

LEOOEL:  The University of Florida published a paper (on the internet), listing about a dozen different varieties of Jackfruit fond in Florida.  The study included flesh ratio, seed count, rag ratio, whether varieties split, productivity, etc.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: LEOOEL on January 27, 2013, 04:19:51 AM
I started this thread with the purpose of deciding which is the best Jackfruit cultivar to plant, since I only have about one more spot to plant a Jackfruit tree.
Although I've already decided, please keep your opinions and comments  coming. They have been fascinating and very instructive.
I've learned of new great cultivars outside of the U.S.A; like, J-33, EVIARC and Honey. Man, I wish these cultivars were available here in the good ol' U.S.A. Are they?

Now, I'm happy to say that I've decided to go with the J-31 Jackfruit cultivar.
This difficult decision has come after a good amount of research and taking into consideration my location (Zone 10b), fruit & tree characteristics and my own personal good taste. ;) Godwilling, in the future I'll have more space to plant more Jackfruit cultivars. Then, I'll also go for the Mai1 and Excalibur-Red cultivars. And, if I can get my hands on them, the J-33, EVIARC and Honey.
Some of my reasons for choosing the J-31 are: good fruit size, productive, can produce fruit off season, good sweet taste & texture, and looks like fruit will not split.

The only thing that I'm not crazy about the J-33 Jackfruit cultivar, is that the tree will not grow taller than 20'(feet)? Is this true? I was hoping that it would get taller, maybe 40' or 80'; I wanted the tree to hide some ugly grid-power-lines behind it.

I went to Bender's Grove (closest nursery to me that had it) yesterday and bought a seven gallon J-33. Needless to say, I'm ecstatic about it.
There, I was told to wait 3 weeks, 'till the end of February, before I plant it. This is to allow for new roots and to protect against a possible winter freeze.
Because I can't wait to plant it, I'm gonna fake plant it ??? I'm gonna dig a hole and plant it WITH the plastic container and all. In 3 weeks I'll just dig it out and replant it without the plastic container. Sorry, this is just too much fun.  ;D

By the way, full disclosure, until I get more info,  I've put in the backburner obtaining the following fruit trees (out of  "4" designated Planting Spots):
Spot 1     Grafted avocado cultivar(s) that ripens in December through March,
Spot 2     Sweet Heart Lychee, and
Spot 3     Grafted Spanish-Lime that's productive, has large fruit, with male/female flowers on the tree & free-stone; I'll wait for availability, hopefully at Excalibur Nursery.
I guess this leaves me with 3 available spots for planting fruit trees in the future; maybe Mai1, Excalibur-Red, EVIARC, Honey and J-33.  ::)

It looks like the best is just to come for the Jackfruit fruit tree & fruits!
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: fruitlovers on January 27, 2013, 06:19:13 AM
I think what you call fake planting is actually a very good way to acclimatize the tree to it's future planting location, especially in terms of amount of sunshine.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: LEOOEL on January 28, 2013, 12:57:45 AM
I agree Oscar, well said. I couldn't have said it any better myself. Thanks.

I have high hopes for this, soon to be planted, baby J-31 jackfruit.
There are two things that have me a little preoccupied:
1   That the tree will not grow taller than 20' (feet). I'm really finding it hard to believe that the tree will not grow taller than that. And,
2   That the tree will be affected by cold damage. I believe that when the tree becomes an adult, it will become resilient against winter cold damage.
Well, I guess I'll find out in time.

Time? Talking about time and 3D-Printers. THEY are saying that in a few years, we'll be able to purchase 3D-Printers. This makes me wonder whether at some time in the future, they will have 3D-Printers that will be able to print a fully grown fruit tree. Interesting thought, but I'm being impatient and I digress.

Hey Oscar, I wonder how the foreign Jackfruit cultivars (i.e. EVIARC-Sweet, Honey-Sweet, J-33)  compare to J-31, Mai1, etc.
I really wish you (I can't, at least not now) or some nursery like Pine Island, would import these Jackfruit culivars, like they did with the Sweet-Tamarind cultivar.
They would probably be a real big hit here in the U.S.A.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Mike T on January 28, 2013, 02:50:03 AM

(http://s14.postimage.org/63amzsnvx/DSCF5478.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/63amzsnvx/)

My seedling of what I believe was a gold nugget mother is producing fruit now.There is plenty of flesh and the flavor is good but the flesh is softer than what I like.I planted a tekam seedling a few days ago and have small a grafted amber.If this one is less than spectacular by the time the big guns get productive it will get the chop.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: tropical66 on January 28, 2013, 03:05:39 AM


 
J33 - Tekam Yellow Jackfruit

(http://s1.postimage.org/x6kayz8hn/IMAG0708.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/x6kayz8hn/)

(http://s8.postimage.org/hai5fattd/IMAG0709.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hai5fattd/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/y811dgxtv/IMAG0712.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/y811dgxtv/)

For me J33 Tekam Yellow is among the best .
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: LEOOEL on January 28, 2013, 10:58:14 PM
Tropical66, thanks for the info. you lucky you.
I wish they had the J-33 Tekam Yellow (as you call it) here in the U.S.A. so that I could taste it and compare cultivars. How is the productivity?
Is this your favorite Jackfruit cultivar, or do you also have other favorites?
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Jackfruitwhisperer69 on January 29, 2013, 06:17:17 AM
Hi Faezal,
J33 sure looks delish  8)

I found this blog about J33. 8) The blog is all about this commercial Malay Jackfruit 8)

http://jackfruit-azmi.blogspot.pt/2010/07/permintaan-buah-nangka-madu-klon-j33.html (http://jackfruit-azmi.blogspot.pt/2010/07/permintaan-buah-nangka-madu-klon-j33.html)
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: LEOOEL on January 31, 2013, 10:09:22 PM
I just want to thank you guys for helping me decide on which Jackfruit cultivar to pick. Specially, Rob, Harry, Noel, Mark, Oscar & others.
As mentioned, I decided on the J-31. This decision was important to me and your help was crucial.
I've already fake planted the tree (as I call it) behind a Banana cultivar called Kandrian.
After the banana tree bears fruit, I'll just cut it down and the J-31 will have the sunshine all to itself.
Other fruit trees that I'm contemplating working on and/or purchasing: Jaboticaba (which variety?), a productive Rollinia (if such a cultivar exists!), Carrie Mango, Valencia-Pride Mango, Dragon-Fruit-rootstock, Persimmon, Emperor and SweetHeart Lychee.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: bsbullie on January 31, 2013, 11:48:57 PM
I just want to thank you guys for helping me decide on which Jackfruit cultivar to pick. Specially, Rob, Harry, Noel, Mark, Oscar & others.
As mentioned, I decided on the J-31. This decision was important to me and your help was crucial.
I've already fake planted the tree (as I call it) behind a Banana cultivar called Kandrian.
After the banana tree bears fruit, I'll just cut it down and the J-31 will have the sunshine all to itself.
Other fruit trees that I'm contemplating working on and/or purchasing: Jaboticaba (which variety?), a productive Rollinia (if such a cultivar exists!), Carrie Mango, Valencia-Pride Mango, Dragon-Fruit-rootstock, Persimmon, Emperor and SweetHeart Lychee.
Thanks again.
Why would you cut the banana down?
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: LEOOEL on February 01, 2013, 12:57:43 AM
Well, the Kandrian banana cultivar is a tall monster of a tree. When the banana fruit is about to ripen, the banana bunch is removed/cut from its stalk. It's cumbersome and dangerous to get a ladder, cut the stalk and bring the banana bunch down the ladder.
The safest and easiest way I've observed/learned, is to basically cut an indentation into the tree at the base. Then, if you do it right, the tree will slowly bend towards the ground, so as not to hurt the banana fruit bunch. Then, you just safely and easily cut the stalk and remove the banana fruit bunch.
The fact is, that the banana tree has served its usefulness, I do not feel at all remorseful, because the tree will have run its course and never produce any more fruit.
After some time, the cut tree will be used as compost or mulch.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: BMc on February 01, 2013, 01:06:20 AM
Well, the Kandrian banana cultivar is a tall monster of a tree. When the banana fruit is about to ripen, the banana bunch is removed/cut from its stalk. It's cumbersome and dangerous to get a ladder, cut the stalk and bring the banana bunch down the ladder.
The safest and easiest way I've observed/learned, is to basically cut an indentation into the tree at the base. Then, if you do it right, the tree will slowly bend towards the ground, so as not to hurt the banana fruit bunch. Then, you just safely and easily cut the stalk and remove the banana fruit bunch.
The fact is, that the banana tree has served its usefulness, I do not feel at all remorseful, because the tree will have run its course and never produce any more fruit.
After some time, the cut tree will be used as compost or mulch.

An easier way to cut down bananas is to cut the stem vertically, rather than horizontally, a few times with a machete or similar. It will just make the fibres in the stem relax and bring it down slowly. That's the theory I've heard from local growers - I wouldnt know personally as I only grow the dwarf ones that are easily harvested in hands rather than bunches...
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: tropical66 on February 01, 2013, 01:20:34 AM
 
A Blog about Deng Suriya Jackfuit.

http://fruitlova.blogspot.com/2007/04/when-jackfruit-was-coloured-orange.html (http://fruitlova.blogspot.com/2007/04/when-jackfruit-was-coloured-orange.html)
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: LEOOEL on February 01, 2013, 01:29:42 AM
Well, the Kandrian banana cultivar is a tall monster of a tree. When the banana fruit is about to ripen, the banana bunch is removed/cut from its stalk. It's cumbersome and dangerous to get a ladder, cut the stalk and bring the banana bunch down the ladder.
The safest and easiest way I've observed/learned, is to basically cut an indentation into the tree at the base. Then, if you do it right, the tree will slowly bend towards the ground, so as not to hurt the banana fruit bunch. Then, you just safely and easily cut the stalk and remove the banana fruit bunch.
The fact is, that the banana tree has served its usefulness, I do not feel at all remorseful, because the tree will have run its course and never produce any more fruit.
After some time, the cut tree will be used as compost or mulch.

An easier way to cut down bananas is to cut the stem vertically, rather than horizontally, a few times with a machete or similar. It will just make the fibres in the stem relax and bring it down slowly. That's the theory I've heard from local growers - I wouldnt know personally as I only grow the dwarf ones that are easily harvested in hands rather than bunches...

I've never heard of that method before. It sure sounds like it will work. I'll have to try it out some time and compare methods. Thanks for sharing.   
I also have the short banana tree. I have the variety called Nam-Wah.

Hey this is a good topic. But, this is the Most Productive and Sweet Jackfruit thread.
So, with all due respect, please let me tell you which other banana cultivars I have in a brand New Topic.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: bsbullie on February 01, 2013, 01:39:32 AM
I asked because just cause the banana fruits doesn't mean the entire plant dies...it sends up new pups, the process repeats itself and the mat starts to exponentially grow.  To "kill" the banana outright you would have to poison it or dig it up...
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: LEOOEL on February 01, 2013, 01:59:24 AM
That's right. I'm planning to relocate the new pups, as you call'm. I'm planning to give this prime/optimum sunny location to the J-31 Jackfruit.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: bsbullie on February 01, 2013, 02:18:53 AM
ok, corms...   :)
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: LEOOEL on February 01, 2013, 11:51:50 PM
ok, corms...   :)

So that's what they're called. Thanks.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: ofdsurfer on February 02, 2013, 08:21:56 AM

A Blog about Deng Suriya Jackfuit.

http://fruitlova.blogspot.com/2007/04/when-jackfruit-was-coloured-orange.html (http://fruitlova.blogspot.com/2007/04/when-jackfruit-was-coloured-orange.html)

Rob is this the same red morning that Excalibur carries?
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: mikesid on February 02, 2013, 08:47:25 AM
Red Morning and Deng Suriya are the same cultivar...
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: ofdsurfer on February 02, 2013, 09:15:36 AM
Great that's a good looking jackfruit.  Is that what they used to come up with the Ex red?
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: bsbullie on February 02, 2013, 11:18:43 AM

A Blog about Deng Suriya Jackfuit.

http://fruitlova.blogspot.com/2007/04/when-jackfruit-was-coloured-orange.html (http://fruitlova.blogspot.com/2007/04/when-jackfruit-was-coloured-orange.html)

Rob is this the same red morning that Excalibur carries?
Yes
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: gunnar429 on March 27, 2014, 01:28:06 PM
ok so apparently jackfruit is the newest fruit that has me obsessed

Already have the following: 
Red:  borneo red, cristela
yellow:  j-31, crunchy lemon, Black Gold x Tabuey

I believe from other threads, that mai 1, j-30, and excalibur red, and excalibur gold are front-runners.  What do i absolutely HAVE TO HAVE (in your opinion)?  only have room for a couple more trees.  Thanks

Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: bsbullie on March 27, 2014, 01:38:20 PM
Mai 1 and Bangkok Lemon for yellow flesh
Mai 3 for orange flesh
Denge Suria and Excalibur Red for red flesh (there may be some availability issues with Excalibur Red for now)
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: nullzero on March 27, 2014, 03:21:21 PM
I have heard that Black Gold was good for cold tolerance any other good tasting productive Jackfruits that have good cold tolerance at a lower bound zone 10a?

Btw, I recently just tried young jackfruit recently cooked as a vegetable. It was excellent and had the looks and texture of beef brisket. Was cooked Sri Lankan style had a savory flavor to it with a slight fish/meat taste.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: gunnar429 on March 27, 2014, 03:34:46 PM
Question:  I have a shed that faces south, probably about 8-10 ft tall, and have about 10 feet behind the shed is a fence.  If i planted a jackfruit, would it do ok, once it grew up over the shed?  The tree has room to get some light (another overgrown weed/tree is already there)

Ok, so here are 2 questions:

1.  Would it be ok to plant a 3g Jackfruit and let it grow up toward the sun, or purchase a large tree (usually like to plant small trees and grow them up, mark in texas style) and plant it so it already gets some sun?

2.  (Same question i have for jaboticaba) Since the fruit is borne on the trunk, does the trunk need to receive sunlight for proper fruiting, or is it enough for the leaves to absorb the energy and use that energy to produce fruit that is in the shade?

Thanks (hopefully that wasn't too confusing)
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Sleepdoc on March 27, 2014, 03:59:28 PM
1. Sounds like a good place to plant a Jak :)

2. I think as long as the leaves reach the sunlight, you'll be fine
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: edzone9 on March 27, 2014, 04:11:22 PM
Florida G-man, so how cold hardy would you say is the Dang Suria Jack? More cold hardy than Black Gold?
Thanks Ed
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: bsbullie on March 27, 2014, 06:24:02 PM
Florida G-man, so how cold hardy would you say is the Dang Suria Jack? More cold hardy than Black Gold?
Thanks Ed
Black Gold will be more cold hardy.  Some say the taste is very good but in my opinion, the taste/quality does not live up to the lebel of the varieties mentioned on the previous page.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: gunnar429 on March 28, 2014, 11:14:42 AM
Question:  I have a shed that faces south, probably about 8-10 ft tall, and have about 10 feet behind the shed is a fence.  If i planted a jackfruit, would it do ok, once it grew up over the shed?  The tree has room to get some light (another overgrown weed/tree is already there)

Ok, so here are 2 questions:

1.  Would it be ok to plant a 3g Jackfruit and let it grow up toward the sun, or purchase a large tree (usually like to plant small trees and grow them up, mark in texas style) and plant it so it already gets some sun?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: edzone9 on March 28, 2014, 12:02:53 PM
Thanks Ed
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Black Gold will be more cold hardy.  Some say the taste is very good but in my opinion, the taste/quality does not live up to the lebel of the varieties mentioned on the previous page.
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Thanks Rob !
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: LEOOEL on March 29, 2014, 12:46:14 AM
gunnar429, other than the already mentioned jaks, the one that comes to mind and stands out is the 'NS-1.' From what I've learned from other Members that have it, is that the all around fruit quality and taste has that of the other jaks beat, although not by much.

Is the information that the tree's leaves will sometime fall off in weird ways that make the tree look like crap? Any truth to this? I suppose that only those that have the 'NS-1' and other varieties to compare it with, like 'Black Gold,' 'J-31,' can really know and report on this; thanks for any help that anyone can reliably provide on this conundrum.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Sleepdoc on March 29, 2014, 08:34:06 AM
gunnar429, other than the already mentioned jaks, the one that comes to mind and stands out is the 'NS-1.' From what I've learned from other Members that have it, is that the all around fruit quality and taste has that of the other jaks beat, although not by much.

Is the information that the tree's leaves will sometime fall off in weird ways that make the tree look like crap? Any truth to this? I suppose that only those that have the 'NS-1' and other varieties to compare it with, like 'Black Gold,' 'J-31,' can really know and report on this; thanks for any help that anyone can reliably provide on this conundrum.

I have a 1 year old in ground grafted NS-1  (from 3 gal).  It is slow growing, and looks like crap.  That could be due to location of the planting ( not full sun, questionable soil).  It looks nutrient deficient despite foliar sprays and iron drench.  We'll see how it goes over the next couple of years. 
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Cookie Monster on March 29, 2014, 11:54:19 AM
I've been exceedingly happy with my NS-1 seedling. Bore in about 3 years from seed. Has heavy crops every year.

My Jacks tend to prefer sun on their trunks. If there is no sun on the trunk, they they won't produce much in the way of fruit there.

How is the excalibur gold, Rob? As good as the Mais?
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: bsbullie on March 29, 2014, 03:11:24 PM
Jeff - while the Excalibur Gold is very good, I think the  Mais are better and the Mai 1 is a heavy bearer.  The Mai 3 may have a better flavor than the 1; but didn't bear as heavy and the fruit are smaller.   The Excalibur Gold is better than the Mai 2.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Sleepdoc on March 29, 2014, 03:26:56 PM
Jeff - while the Excalibur Gold is very good, I think the  Mais are better and the Mai 1 is a heavy bearer.  The Mai 3 may have a better flavor than the 1; but didn't bear as heavy and the fruit are smaller.   The Excalibur Gold is better than the Mai 2.

Interesting.  I planted the Excalibur Gold based on the rumor that Richard had said the Excalibur Gold was the best he'd ever had.  Guess I'll have to wait a year or two to evaluate it myself.

Also, do you know anything about the variety "Excalibur" ?

I can't wait for a bunch of my trees to come into production.  Will be cool to put the Excalibur stuff up against some of the Australian seedlings and others I have planted.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: bsbullie on March 29, 2014, 11:41:27 PM
I believe Richard may prefer the Excalibur Gold over the Red however I prefer the Red.   Overall, compar[quote author=Sleepdoc linkcomparing a Red vs Gold of equal quality,  I like the taste of the Red better.   With taste being subjective,  I am not sure there is a right or wrong.  In any event,  you won't be disappointed with the Excalibur Gold.

The Excalibur is also a very good jack fruit. I would put it in the same class as Bangkok Lemon,  which is not a shabby variety by any means.

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Jeff - while the Excalibur Gold is very good, I think the  Mais are better and the Mai 1 is a heavy bearer.  The Mai 3 may have a better flavor than the 1; but didn't bear as heavy and the fruit are smaller.   The Excalibur Gold is better than the Mai 2.

Interesting.  I planted the Excalibur Gold based on the rumor that Richard had said the Excalibur Gold was the best he'd ever had.  Guess I'll have to wait a year or two to evaluate it myself.

Also, do you know anything about the variety "Excalibur" ?

I can't wait for a bunch of my trees to come into production.  Will be cool to put the Excalibur stuff up against some of the Australian seedlings and others I have planted.
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Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Mike T on March 29, 2014, 11:58:46 PM
Over a long period here the commercial and backyard growers trialled just about all the top Asian jacks and developed many new varieties including the gold series. What drives the chase for the best is the price that can be returned in the Sydney markets where Asian people buy large volumes. The golds, NSI,J31 and top thais are not fetching premium prices these days. Some previous popular types like galaxy and cheena have almost disappeared. Brinsmeade special, piccone crisp, Amber, Berry and a couple of other newer types are getting the highest prices. A couple of these don't seem any better to me so personal taste is also important. The competition to have good varieties no one else has seems to be driving the  improvements. I have a seedling J33 and I'm interested to see how it compares. New varieties being developed and imported is happening at a fast rate with this species.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Sleepdoc on March 30, 2014, 11:54:05 AM
Rob- Cool, thanks for the description.  I had forgotten that you had answered a similar question in the past.

Mike-  I'm anxiously waiting for my Aussie seedlings mature.  I have 2 Amber seedlings and 1 Berry seedling in ground.  The Ambers are doing OK, while the Berry is a total beast.  The Berry is about 7 feet tall at this point.  Took this pic of the Berry S just now ...


(http://s30.postimg.cc/m0c167dpp/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/m0c167dpp/)
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: cbss_daviefl on March 30, 2014, 12:58:01 PM
Here is a pic of my Berry S.  Notice the difference in the leaf shape.  Mine is about 5 ft tall but branching nicely for a seedling.  I will put it in the ground next week.  I can't wait until all the people that got these seedlings can bring the resulting fruits to a tasting table. I vote for calling them the  Mi-T Berry (pronounced mighty berry) and Mi-T Amber series 1 to n  ;D

(http://s24.postimg.cc/xlp5k3s8x/Berry_Seedling.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/xlp5k3s8x/)
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: edzone9 on March 30, 2014, 01:43:03 PM
Hello gang.
This is a black gold jack fruit tree st fairchild gardens today. My daughter is in the background
(http://s17.postimg.cc/n1kx4ep0b/20140330_100341.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/n1kx4ep0b/)
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: gunnar429 on March 30, 2014, 01:56:24 PM
Thanks for the pic, Ed.  Hope you guys enjoyed yourselves!  If i am correct, that is antidesma in the background to the left of the dragonfruit.  The hudson (south florida) persimmon is right there too. 
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Mike T on March 30, 2014, 05:12:56 PM
Brandon and Sleepdoc I am glad they are going well and confident that they will be true. It would be good if some of the other locals here like paxton prolific and Fai zee sui (if it isn't there already under another name) could make an appearance on the Floridian scene also.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Sleepdoc on March 30, 2014, 05:40:08 PM
Brandon and Sleepdoc I am glad they are going well and confident that they will be true. It would be good if some of the other locals here like paxton prolific and Fai zee sui (if it isn't there already under another name) could make an appearance on the Floridian scene also.

Send over some seeds, we'll get them in the ground and fruiting !
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: BearDog on March 30, 2014, 06:19:52 PM
A few years ago I bought a frozen jackfruit from an asian market, it said "Dolphin Brand" grown in Vietnam on it. It was one of the best tasting jackfruits I ever had. The fruit was pretty small and the flesh was round with flat seeds inside. Is anyone familiar with this?  Can anyone list some varieties that are small, sweet and have rounded arils or flesh and flat seeds?
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: edzone9 on March 30, 2014, 08:46:34 PM
Thanks for the pic, Ed.  Hope you guys enjoyed yourselves!  If i am correct, that is antidesma in the background to the left of the dragonfruit.  The hudson (south florida) persimmon is right there too.
that
We had a great time Jeff !, Bought a couple of mango Books on our way out, was a lil disappointed that they didn't have lots of Mango trees at Fairchild, There all at the Farm..

I will be back down there Next week ;)..
Ed..
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: LEOOEL on March 31, 2014, 12:00:02 AM
gunnar429, other than the already mentioned jaks, the one that comes to mind and stands out is the 'NS-1.' From what I've learned from other Members that have it, is that the all around fruit quality and taste has that of the other jaks beat, although not by much.

Is the information that the tree's leaves will sometime fall off in weird ways that make the tree look like crap? Any truth to this? I suppose that only those that have the 'NS-1' and other varieties to compare it with, like 'Black Gold,' 'J-31,' can really know and report on this; thanks for any help that anyone can reliably provide on this conundrum.

I have a 1 year old in ground grafted NS-1  (from 3 gal).  It is slow growing, and looks like crap.  That could be due to location of the planting ( not full sun, questionable soil).  It looks nutrient deficient despite foliar sprays and iron drench.  We'll see how it goes over the next couple of years.

Sleepdoc, thanx for that report, I appreciate it. I'm just trying to get to know the famous 'NS-1' a bit better. Yours is behaving a bit similar to my 'J-31' that is also 1 year old, planted from a 3 gal. (also not full sun, questionable soil). After dying back to half size due to last years cold weather, my 'J-31' right now is looking like a healthy 2 foot tall bush. I hope that after they get established both our jaks start growing at a good pace. - I've learnded from this Forum that grafted jackfruit grow slower and start producing a bit later than seedlings.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: gunnar429 on March 31, 2014, 12:03:25 AM
yeah, definitely try to stop by the farm.  I was there a few weeks ago and it was awesome to see all those trees planted out
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: buddyguygreen on June 14, 2014, 03:23:22 AM
What is the difference in taste and productivity of excalibur red or the borneo red jackfruit, or are they basically the same. Anyone tried either or both
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: gunnar429 on June 14, 2014, 04:43:39 AM
they are not the same.  ex red is red while BR is actually orange.  both are good from what i hear...Exred isn't available right now due to lack of supply, but it will return again obce they catch the inventory up.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: gunnar429 on June 14, 2014, 07:58:55 AM
Chris Rollins went to Borneo and brought back the BR, which is one of his favorites!  Ex-red would be better answered by Rob, but I believe Richard Wilson sampled fruits in Asia somewhere and had some red ones he liked so he brought back seeds.  If i am correct, that is why Excalibur has so many reddish jacks that aren't available elsewhere.  They have cristela, red morning, and excalibur red.  Now we will see what I got wrong from this info. 

Rob?
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: onecone on December 24, 2015, 05:35:05 PM
I don't think there is any one true answer to this.  I would eliminate J-30 and Mai 2 (Mai 2 cause it doesn't seem to be as productive) and add Dang Suria/Red Morning, Bangkok Lemon and Excalibur Gold, otherwise depending on who you talk to, what they are growing and where they are grown, they are all very good varieties that you would no go wrong with.  Noel will most likely tell you that J-31 is the winner while I would be hard pressed to chose from Excalibur Red, Dang Suria, Mai 1, Mai 3 and hard not to keep Bangkok Lemon in the mix.  To be fair to Noel, I have tasted his J-31 and it is definitely excellent but I am partial to the aforementioned Reds and the Mais (1 & 3).  I am sure Harry, Clint and Sheehan will chime in and their opinions should also be highly regarded.

I know this was very little help but it is honest advice.  You are going to have to throw a dart and pick or wait till later this year and taste them for yourself before you buy...
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: fyliu on December 24, 2015, 06:00:02 PM
I don't think there is any one true answer to this.  I would eliminate J-30 and Mai 2 (Mai 2 cause it doesn't seem to be as productive) and add Dang Suria/Red Morning, Bangkok Lemon and Excalibur Gold, otherwise depending on who you talk to, what they are growing and where they are grown, they are all very good varieties that you would no go wrong with.  Noel will most likely tell you that J-31 is the winner while I would be hard pressed to chose from Excalibur Red, Dang Suria, Mai 1, Mai 3 and hard not to keep Bangkok Lemon in the mix.  To be fair to Noel, I have tasted his J-31 and it is definitely excellent but I am partial to the aforementioned Reds and the Mais (1 & 3).  I am sure Harry, Clint and Sheehan will chime in and their opinions should also be highly regarded.

I know this was very little help but it is honest advice.  You are going to have to throw a dart and pick or wait till later this year and taste them for yourself before you buy...
Sorry to pick on you. I see posts like this many times where it's all quote and no new text outside of them. I'm wondering what the purpose of it is. Is it a way to "like" the quote?

Welcome to the forum! Hope you find the seeds you're looking for and hope you stay to learn more about growing them then share your own experiences.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Mike T on December 24, 2015, 06:31:47 PM
Productivity is high with almost all cultivars in the right conditions. More tropical types won't be quite as good if grown in conditions too cool for their best performance.Sloppies are preferred by very few people over the crisper types.
That being said none of the golds are elite, and I could name at least 10 australian varieties that are not good enough.J31,NS1 and Bangkok lemon are good.J33 must be great just by reputation alone but berry and ambr are the cream of the crop here and were probably selected from large numbers of crosses of other good types.I have tried a vietnamese lemony type of great quality and a couple of deep orange fleshed fruit of great taste.I don't know what the real dang Suria is.
You can't really judge the fruit quality until about the 3rd season as they change and improve.There is an element of personal taste within reason but most people seem to agree when they try a few as to what is good and poor. Prices in the markets can be an indicator of quality but not always.
 
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: druss on December 24, 2015, 06:36:52 PM
Hey Mike do you recognise any of the daleys varieties and would you recommend any? I can't find berry or ambr anywhere.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Mike T on December 24, 2015, 07:04:49 PM
They have property names and the names of individuals attached that I don't recognise.I am sure there are some good ones but who knows.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: druss on December 24, 2015, 07:35:49 PM
Cool, are the ambr and berry actually available? I have room for 1 or two jakfruit and want good ones.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Capt Ram on September 03, 2018, 10:11:49 AM
How would one Compare the amber and Berry to Excl Red in taste.. And is there anyone with Amber or berry seeds or trees available
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: LEOOEL on September 12, 2018, 12:24:06 AM
Update:

I had high hopes for my 2 feet tall J-31, but it died a couple of years ago soon after planting. I suspect that there was a problem with the location not being an optimum one. That was a bit painful but I got over it with time.

Freaky Update:

At the start of this Thread, I mentioned my one and only prized Jackfruit Variety: Sweet-Fairchild. This being the only Jackfruit variety that I’ve ever tasted, must have blindsided me from realizing that there are probably much better tasting Jackfruit varieties out there.

I also mentioned that I planted the fast growing and productive Sweet-Fairchild under 2 nuisance giant Royal Poinciana trees; the S-F Jackfruit is in my yard and the 2 giant RP trees are in my neighbors’ yard. Now, check this out. For years I had prayed that my neighbor cut them down, so much so that I even considered paying for it. Finally, This year the neighbor hires some imbeciles and they cut down the giant tree. The giant RP tree fell smack center in the middle of my neighbors’ fancy SUV! I saw this as it happened with my own two eyes (true story)!

A few months later- now a few weeks ago - the neighbor hires imbeciles again to cut down the 2nd giant Royal Poinciana tree. And, - wait for it - a section of this second giant RP falls over my side of the yard and right smack center on top of my Sweet-Fairchild Jackfruit tree! Now it’s as if my S-F Jackfruit tree was never there!

Looking at the bright side: At first I was a bit sad, but now I’m excited about the possibilities. Now I have the Sunshine and Space to plant about 4 more fruit trees; at least 1 or 2 of them will be Jackfruit. So far, after going over all the recommendations from the experts on this Thread, the top 2 contenders are: J-31 and NS1. But, I haven’t made a final decision yet, and I’m in the process of also considering other Jackfruit varieties not yet mentioned in this Thread. Thanks to all the experts and for all the great information so far.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Capt Ram on September 12, 2018, 06:40:33 AM
I've got that same thing going on next door with the RP tree, shading an area I could grow 3 trees in, and I also offered to pay to cut it down...nothing yet..my first jakfruit tree that's only 3 years old fruited this year and had 16 fruit on it,starting in May, I just picked the last one a week ago...it's an Excalaber Red and is excellent...I've also got Mai 1 and Bagkoc Lemon that should fruit next year, and the year after.. I also have An Amber x Mai 1 cross that's slow growing
I'm planning a few dozen seeds of the ExRed today and will see how they do

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Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: LEOOEL on September 13, 2018, 12:40:45 AM
Great selections of Jackfruit varieties you have there, congrats. Thanks for the heads up and good luck with the RP, they can be very dangerous.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Balinad on November 20, 2018, 10:44:48 AM
"EVIARC Sweet " The Sweetest Jackfruit with a sugar content of 25.14 Brix, the international measurement of sweetness based on total soluble solids. Normally, the sweetest jackfruit has a sugar content of 16 to 18 brix.
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Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: FMfruitforest on December 15, 2018, 06:43:24 AM
Echo FARMS in North Fort Myers set me up with ns1, bangkok lemon, j31, black gold and orange crush jakfruit seedlings. All are growing like weeds and I hope to share my results with there fruiting in near future.
Title: Re: Which is the best Jackfruit variety as far as sweet-taste and productivity?
Post by: Balinad on January 06, 2019, 08:56:27 PM
The sweetest Jackfruit is "EVIARC Sweet" from Philippines

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