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I have two in my greenhouse, in containers though.   Will be a while before I expect fruit.

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My in-ground in-greenhouse trees are also too vigorous, well not the mango but most of the others.  For the citrus I am grafting onto a dwarfing rootstock and I will dig up the current trees and replace them with dwarfs once the dwarfs grow a bit more.  For now I have been pruning them aggressively which works well enough.  I still get a decent fruit set.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: high humidy sub-& tropicals?
« on: April 26, 2021, 10:48:56 PM »
I have an air layered lychee that has been pretty stagnant, and I just started some rambutan seedlings for fun.  I also suspect soil issues for those, though.  Yet another remind to start collecting rainwater

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I get that high density planting could increase yields... but why not in-ground high density?  The only explanation in the article is that they want to try different densities by re-arranging the containers?  Too many variables at once, in my opinion.  I'm happy to see them try and document it, though.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: high humidy sub-& tropicals?
« on: April 26, 2021, 10:08:45 PM »
Thank you, TomekK.  The only syzygium I have is a malay apple, that seemed perfectly healthy its first summer then randomly died back 75% over the winter in the greenhouse.  It seems to be coming back but I am not sure what happened with it.

My cherimoya, atemoya, and sapotes seem perfectly happy in the greenhouse.  I know people are growing them in southern CA which is dry.

Citrus grows in arizona, texas, so I'm sure no issues there.  Mine are doing fantastic.

My dragon fruit grew so fast I had to get rid of it, it was too big and thorny for me.  Never tried passion vines.

My jabo also had brown tips last year, I assumed it was salt buildup or something.  I don't know much about them, mine is ~2yr also in a container.

I have some durian seedlings that keep growing but they got pretty yellow over the winter.  I was happy to see them even survive.

If only cacao and mangosteen are the outliers, that is good news to me.  I can manage heateasily but constantly humidity is harder.  I really need to get rainwater collection going as my municipal water is too hard to be spraying constantly.  Mark in TX seems to use it as his primary cooling, which also a huge boost to humidity. 

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ah okay good to hear it isn't just me.  I only ordered lucs.  I don't mind waiting a bit longer, I was just worried that I fell through the cracks somehow. 


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Interesting that they are planning to use the same root pruning pots that many of us are using.  I am surprised that container growing is expected to be more productive than in-ground, though.  My in-ground in-greenhouse trees are FAR more productive than they were in containers.  However, it may simply be that I was over or underwatering them and setting them back, where a professional operation would be more consistent. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: high humidy sub-& tropicals?
« on: April 26, 2021, 02:14:22 PM »
Thank you.

I am starting to google search them all and see if I can find any more outliers.  Most say something like "prefers warm, humid climate" but I am not finding many that explicitly require it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: high humidy sub-& tropicals?
« on: April 25, 2021, 05:15:36 PM »
I have one red jaboticaba growing in a container that looks quite healthy but has been slow growing.  I have a whole bunch of garcinias but they aren't really thriving, which led me to start wondering about humidity.  Plus I just got a theobroma on a whim and I always hear about they need high humidity.  I sprouted a ton of tropical seeds of all types recently and I'm not sure how many will take to greenhouse life. 

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: looking for a Sha Tian You Pomelo
« on: April 25, 2021, 04:52:14 PM »
The only pummelos I have ever seen mail order are chandler, valentine, red shaddock?, and hirado butan.  If you come across any others I am interested also. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: high humidy sub-& tropicals?
« on: April 25, 2021, 04:34:16 PM »
I have an abiu that seems the be thriving, though.  And jackfruit, cherimoya, guavas.  Surely they can't be as moisture sensitive as theobroma and mangosteen?

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I use municipal water for my foggers.  I forgot Mark has a huge rainwater barrel... so maybe that is the answer (though why the issues with wet pads then?)

I have powered exhaust fans in my greenhouse.  They come on around 75F and the foggers come on around 90F.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / high humidy sub-& tropicals?
« on: April 25, 2021, 11:37:37 AM »
Since I've now realized my greenhouse midday humidity is far lower than I thought, I am thinking about trying to create a humid section for the plants that require it.  Long term I want to build another greenhouse for high-humidty, high minimum-temp plants. 

Can you tell me what tropical plants *require* high humidity?  So far I'm only aware of mangosteen and theobroma cacao (cocao).  What about other garcinias?  Eugenias?  Jabo?  Guava? 

I assume citrus, mango, and annonas are better off dry. 

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Mark, if you have scale issues with wet pads wouldn't you instead have scale issues on your actual plants with a fogger?  I have a fogging setup also and despite moderate-low TDS I still get some scale buildup on the leaves of the nearby trees. 

Sorry we derailed this thread from the original mango-PM question but I always love a good greenhouse discussion

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That's a fine looking tree!  Now I want to see somebody in the arctic circle showing off their mango :)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Big pot size for citrus?
« on: April 24, 2021, 05:36:49 PM »
But having a large tree in a 100gal planter might be lots more fun  :)

Growing out of zone trees in containers isn't so much about the economics

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No, but the foundation is insulated around the perimeter of the down to 2ft below grade.  The soil never drops much below 50f even in the middle of winter.

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My greenhouse is much drier than I expected during the day time.  I assumed it was humid constantly because of how much condensation I see in mornings and evenings, but I just put a hygrometer in a few weeks ago and it reads <40% most of the time when it is sunny.  I am going to try creating a more humid section for the tropicals I have that require it. 

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My heater is set to 55F.  I understand I could probably set it much lower but I am lucky to have cheap natural gas

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The biggest thing I learned from trying to grow blueberries is be sure to add a lot of sulfur to keep the ph down... and that birds will eat all the blueberries before you can  :(

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I have a mango in-ground in my greenhouse.  I've never seen powdery mildew and I do not apply any anti-fungals.  I occasionally have some minor leaf necrosis I can't quite explain, but overall my mango looks very healthy.  It is loaded with pea sized fruitlets right now, I hope they hold.  Last year the few fruits dropped at walnut size.




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Raul have you already begun sending seeds?  I haven't received anything yet from Mar 4th pre-order

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Big pot size for citrus?
« on: April 22, 2021, 04:59:07 PM »
Yorgos, as Millet mentioned the box-type container opens up for root pruning.  But even the cone planter you could probably tip over gently and wiggle the plant out.  I think if a homeowner was determined they could manage one on their own.  And don't forget having to haul it outside in the spring and inside in winter!

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Brad I saw those come up before but some of the reviews mention they are just foil covered cardboard and the foil separates over time from rain.  Have you used them long term outside?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Big pot size for citrus?
« on: April 20, 2021, 09:50:49 PM »
Longwood Gardens has announced a 250 Million dollar renovation, including a massive greenhouse expansion.  I am very happy to have them nearby, I hope they add more fruit trees. 

https://www.pennlive.com/gardening/2021/02/longwood-gardens-planning-massive-revamp-of-its-conservatory-complex.html

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