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Kapiak

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Hi friends!

I'm in Western Province now in the middle of vast swamp forests with muddy tracks and the ground is very wet and muddy right now. (And still can access Internet, wow!)

Here we found fruiting vividly red wild grapes, possibly Tetrastigma sp.. The hunters- and gatherers eat it out of the hand. Consistency is like harder grapes and tastes a bit sour. But the size is amazing, 2,5 - 4 cm (1 to almost 2 inches) flattened round fruits, 5-15 on each spike.

I tried it with some sugar and it developed a good and interesting taste, close to some grapes or plums. The unripe green fruits are also eaten, and are then like unripe crunchy apples and sour, but not as sour as a lemon.

Someone interested in breeding could develop a sweet variety? :)

I think it's a good alternative for ultratropics where common grapes fails, and the fruits are so big compared to ordinary grapes and other wild grapes. Could be used for preserves or wine equal to grapes I think.

We can offer about 40 seeds = maybe 4-8 packets of 10 or 5 seeds.


We also found a Garcinia sp. Pale green, a rather square fruit 5 cm long and 4 cm wide (2 in long, slightly smaller on sides) when ripe. It's picked from the ground. Tree about 7 m tall (21 ft). But yikes, it was the sourest Garcinia I ever tried! The people said the fruit like plastic with juice inside it. I thought they were exaggerating, but indeed they were right! I put one fruit segment into my mouth and tried to chew it, but it was like a plastic ball, so I with some effort bit a small hole in it and a lemon-like sour juice came out...

I won't keep seeds for myself of this tree, as we've limited land so we feel our lime tree is good enough. But if someone else wants it, we have some fruits here that we will clean when we depart. Only 10 fruits with one single seed in each available.

We'll post the seeds when we get back home around the shift of August/September.


PS tried to upload photos but too slow internet connection :( Will retry again later.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2014, 01:57:32 PM by murahilin »

Roy-Ind

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Re: New Guinea fruits - now: wild grape + SOUR Garcinia sp.
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2014, 04:44:51 AM »

Thanks for posting.
In Western PNG,several Garcinia species are found
with these two complete botanical names:
Garcinia archboldiana & Garcinia celebica

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Re: New Guinea fruits - now: wild grape + SOUR Garcinia sp.
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2014, 07:45:10 AM »
Yes Roy, there are several species but very little work or revisions on the very diverse flora of New Guinea. So often I can only identify to genus but not to species level. :(

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Re: New Guinea fruits - now: wild grape + Sour Garciniasp.
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2014, 08:25:49 AM »
HI, KAPIAK

I'm wondering whether you ever met Maniltoa browneoide or Maniltoa Lenticella there in NewGuinea?
or is there any way you can get them?
I've been looking for them for a long time.

If ever found, please do me a favor. THANKS A LOT!


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Re: New Guinea fruits - now: wild grape + Sour Garciniasp.
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2014, 08:31:02 AM »
I am also searching  for seeds of
Maniltoa browneoides Handkerchief Tree or Enam-enam
as well as
Maniltoa lenticellata Silk Handkerchief Tree or Cascading Bean

Thank you in advance

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Re: New Guinea fruits - now: wild grape + Sour Garciniasp.
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2014, 08:13:40 PM »
Yes we have seen them 3 or 4 times but never ripe seeds. The new leaves are beautiful so we wanted to collect seeds for us too but so far no luck. We haven't seen them here in Western Province yet.
If we find ripe seeds we'll let you know.

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Re: New Guinea fruits - now: wild grape + Sour Garciniasp.
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2014, 08:31:52 AM »
I'm interested in Sour Garcinia sp.
sent PM

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Re: Seeds available - New Guinea fruits - now: wild grape + Sour Garciniasp.
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2015, 07:47:32 AM »
Hi,
Im interested in your tetrastigma wild grape seeds.
please sent PM

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Hi. I'm also interested in the Tetrastigma grapes. Sent PM.