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Citrus => Cold Hardy Citrus => Topic started by: snek on October 24, 2017, 02:17:37 PM

Title: Snek ́s citrus container plantation-Cold Hardy Citrus
Post by: snek on October 24, 2017, 02:17:37 PM
Hybrid "Sanford F2 Curafora" : 2017-10-16
(https://s1.postimg.cc/9aiqnuqoff/2017-10-16-a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9aiqnuqoff/)

(https://s1.postimg.cc/3vk85fflnf/2017-10-16-b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3vk85fflnf/)


Hybrid "Unshiu x P.trifoliata" ITSZ Prague : 2017-10-16
(https://s1.postimg.cc/5ut69xsotn/2017-10-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5ut69xsotn/)


Citrumelo "Swingle 4475" (F2-sec. gen P.Broža) : 2017-10-16
(https://s1.postimg.cc/5vip2a0rwb/2017-10-16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5vip2a0rwb/)
(https://s1.postimg.cc/2xvxr48qp7/2017-10-15-a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/2xvxr48qp7/)


Hybrid "USA 119" : 2017-10-15
(https://s1.postimg.cc/1yfudxp9or/2017-10-15.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/1yfudxp9or/)


Citrange "Morton Nr.93" - 2017-10-16
(https://s1.postimg.cc/1l07d87qwb/2017-10-16-a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/1l07d87qwb/)
(https://s1.postimg.cc/9no660rakb/2017-10-16-b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9no660rakb/)
Title: Re: Snek ́s citrus container plantation-Cold Hardy Citrus
Post by: SoCal2warm on October 24, 2017, 04:28:02 PM
Cool.

Here's three of a very rare variety:

(https://s1.postimg.cc/71f5zk09aj/rare_citrus.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/71f5zk09aj/)

It's a seedling of what was believed to be a [CiTemple edible x Ichang papeda] x Minneola Tangelo
(CiTemple is a citrange with Temple orange that was considered to be especially edible)

Title: Re: Snek ́s citrus container plantation-Cold Hardy Citrus
Post by: Florian on October 25, 2017, 03:05:38 AM
Fantastic plants, Snek, and they look very healthy in containers. What is your secret?
Title: Re: Snek ́s citrus container plantation-Cold Hardy Citrus
Post by: Citradia on October 25, 2017, 07:18:38 AM
Beautiful trees and fruit, Snek. Your Swingle fruits look very round; usually swingle is lemon/ granade shaped; are you sure it's not Dunstan citrumelo?
Title: Re: Snek ́s citrus container plantation-Cold Hardy Citrus
Post by: snek on October 25, 2017, 12:48:51 PM
Personally, I'm very skeptical about Hybrids with Ichang papeda, but I'm glad to be mistaken.

There is no secret. With citruses in containers I have been suffering for 36 years. I am patient, that is an absolute necessity. Just better know what a particular plant wants or does not want.

I'm absolutely sure. 100%. 25 years ago only Swingle was available in the Czech Republic. Dustan is here for about 5,6 years. This year's fruit is not quite typical - it was really dry (almost 4 months did not rain). Normally, the fruits have a different shape - look at the photo.
(https://s1.postimg.cc/4qtvrqtoaz/2014-11-15-a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4qtvrqtoaz/)

(https://s1.postimg.cc/270st9o057/2014-12-02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/270st9o057/)
Title: Re: Snek ́s citrus container plantation-Cold Hardy Citrus
Post by: Citradia on October 26, 2017, 10:29:11 PM
Snek, yes, I see now. Nice fruit. I wish I still had my Swingle; it froze to death several years ago in ground. My Dunstans have done well the past few years though, but still too young to fruit.
Title: Re: Snek ́s citrus container plantation-Cold Hardy Citrus
Post by: snek on October 27, 2017, 03:28:47 AM
Citradia, That's a shame (Swingle).
All my citruses (including Cold Hardy) are in containers and are hidden in really strong frosts. They are primarily intended for planting in the ground. My biggest problem is that the garden is small. First I have to make a new roof on the house and then I put the citrus into the ground. Otherwise they would be destroyed during construction. I have no other place to store the material ...

Frost resistance is currently tested on these plants in containers. Last year they were hidden at -16.1C. Under -12C was only two or three hours, but the previous two weeks was a frost with several recurring temperatures -12C. Outside were Rusk, Morton, Swingle 4475, USA119, HRS899-A, Unshiu X PT ITSZ Prague, clem. Crete X Troyer, Changsha. Everything, beyond the HRS899-A, did it only with minimal leaf damage. But in the spring the plants sprouted later and had only small increments. My citruses generally have a higher frost resistance than is stated. In some cases, it is really significant. Why? I do not know.
Title: Re: Snek ́s citrus container plantation-Cold Hardy Citrus
Post by: Citradia on October 27, 2017, 07:16:27 AM
Snek, are your hardy citrus grafted, and on what? Trifoliata?
Title: Re: Snek ́s citrus container plantation-Cold Hardy Citrus
Post by: snek on October 27, 2017, 08:52:36 AM
Cold Hardy citruses are graftet all on Poncirus trifoliata.
For other citruses I use predominantly poncirus or citrumelo Swingle. Few plants are on citranges.
Title: Re: Snek ́s citrus container plantation-Cold Hardy Citrus
Post by: snek on January 08, 2018, 04:10:15 PM
Hybrid "Unshiu x P.trifoliata" ITSZ Prague ( true - no "Chimere No.19" )

6 fruits is riped. The fruits are small (19-30mm). Unfortunately, it is not early. And that's a big problem (at Cold Hardy Citrus).

The plant bloomed outdoors and was more intensely pollinated with pollen from other citruses. All the fruits were seedless. Even without hints of germs.
Like somewhat worse satsumas, less stable.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/fqi9stgx7/2017-06-22-a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fqi9stgx7/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/4skbw87qz/2018-01-08-a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4skbw87qz/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/oaezc6cej/2018-01-08-b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oaezc6cej/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/q27y733h7/2018-01-08-c.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/q27y733h7/)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/79w33imij/2018-01-08-d.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/79w33imij/)