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And yes, it's MangoFang rising from the dead!   So, be careful lumping all So Cal growing zones into the LA/SanDiego coastal area.  I live out in Palm Springs and this desert climate is completely diff. than the coasts.  We have 6.5 inches of rain per year, 95% of which falls from like November thru March, and daily average summer temperatures of 108, supplemental water is essential.  As far as flavor, I think the dry heat might help the taste, but really hard to compare as BS said.  There are two working mango orchards out here in  the Eastern Coachella Valley that drive their produce into Los Angeles to sell at Farmer's markets so mangoes will grow here.   I had 160 mangoes last year at my house on about 8 trees.......

Nice to see the Forum is still a booming success.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree Problems. Please help!
« on: March 17, 2018, 03:15:43 PM »
Chad - you'll have to get a Floridian to help you here because I'm in the California Desert.
If I remember what's been said about the black spots I believe it could be anthracnose,
a humidity borne disease, and they do spray something for that and your neem oil treatment
might be what they use....but not sure.

And to me the leaves look chewed on or something...some pest maybe....but I could be wrong there
too.  The trunk looks VERY OLD so it could just be the age of the tree that produces
that cracked bark look.   Good luck.

Gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree - Gummosis
« on: March 06, 2018, 11:34:01 PM »
Sorry fresh one - I didn't even look at the "Do Not Use on Edibles part of the directions.
But it's 3 years later so i assume the bad stuff has left the tree by now.  Anyway....
was just trying to help...and the stuff did work.....

G

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree - Gummosis
« on: March 05, 2018, 12:28:52 AM »
 Dear Newbie - my oldest mango tree, a Manila, had gummosis and if indeed your tree has it, I used a product called "Stature"
and  it knocked it out completely.  I used a series of soaks over 3 weeks or so.  Now 3 years later, the Leon Zest I grafted onto it
are 3 feet long and blooming....

Good luck...Gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cutting panicle on young mango trees
« on: March 05, 2018, 12:22:09 AM »
I believe the common wisdom with this situation is to cut off the panicle when the fruit gets pea-sized.  I was
a bit confused by your where to cut the panicle part of your question.  I would think it would be just the panicle
you'd need to cut and nothing farther back.....good luck



Gary

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Waterfowler - take it from a fellow coachella valley grower - DO NOT USE frost cloth for
summer protection.  I did it last year on a glenn mango and lost half the plant to a terrible
burn from the heat retention that Jct quessed would happen.  Use SHADE CLOTH only for
shading. 

Where in the valley are you located?  I'm in Palm Springs.

Gary

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Simon - have you ever had a Bombay?  My tree is a fast grower and I should have at least a dozen or so
this year.  Last year it was outstanding, I mean really good.  Perhaps my desert climate is the key but it
was amazing....

Gary coming out of hibernation

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Huge Mango tasting in SoCal
« on: September 22, 2016, 11:54:26 PM »
Yes Bill...I get the hint...and I'd be happy to share one with you next year (with a reminder from you of course)
I only had 4 this year....how are your mangoes doing by the way.....

Gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Huge Mango tasting in SoCal
« on: September 22, 2016, 04:58:55 PM »
Simon, Frank and every other mango fanatic I know who was there - sorry i missed all the slurping and lip-smacking this year.
Just got home from visiting my mom in Maryland who had a fall, so I had to go there for some son support.  Anyway, looks
like it was a great event, and yes Frank, is the master moderator/grower/cheerleader of our little California experiment.  But
Simon, too, is a monster supporter of this endeavor - great pics and comments Simon as Editor-in-Chief of Mangopalooza 2016!!!!!

On a side note, I discovered a couple things:  Nam Doc Mai, as grown out here in the desert, with my favorite fertilizer - kelp -
                                                                        turned into a VERY spicy complex and sweet (of course) mango.  Almost a hint
                                                                        of nutmeg and cinnamon to its flavor panel.  Very hard to describe but wonderful - I know
                                                                        its hard to believe....

                                           
                                                                        Bombay
, which I thought would be an Alphonso copy-cat, also turned into a marvelously
                                                                        spicy/intense mango, that again is hard to describe, other than I wanted more!

Again, congrats on the event, boys and girls!!!!

Gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wong Mango Farms.
« on: July 20, 2016, 12:57:14 AM »
Agree Stan - they had to plant what they planted at the time they started this, and it looks like
it's been quite a few years for those trees... they do show suffering, like many of mine did
even after I shaded many of them.....luckily it's mostly new growth that fries....yeah, she's got
some tough old trees there!

Gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wong Mango Farms.
« on: July 19, 2016, 12:43:34 AM »
Stan - it was a couple years ago I had Debra and her husband over to my house in Palm Springs to
taste a couple Lemon Zest mangoes, which they'd never had before, and they liked them.  But it seems
her farm is focused on Valencia Pride.  My LZ tree this year produced about 30 mangoes, and my larger,
older VP produced about 10....so to me, here in the desert, the LZ is the better tree....just my observation.

Also, sent her an email to come to another mango tasting at my house this year but haven't heard back,
but I imagine, especially this time of year, she and her group are very busy....

Gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I Got a Valencia Pride Mango!
« on: July 14, 2016, 02:28:04 PM »
...and just to make it more confusing - my Valencia Pride from Florida (planted 4 years ago) is about 12 feet high and 8 feet wide and holding fruit....
perhaps my desert climate is more compatible to the assumed turpentine rootstock???  Or it's the heat...or it's in the perfect spot (microclimate)
...... or pure LUCK?????


Gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I did a very difficult thing...
« on: July 01, 2016, 12:52:03 PM »
It's just impatience - we all have suffered from it at one time or another my friend!

gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I did a very difficult thing...
« on: June 30, 2016, 11:29:30 PM »
Kona man - you get mostly year round growth where you are don't you?  You should trying growing trees in SoCal
and other places where some trees only put on maybe 4" of growth per year...talk about Waiting!?!?!?XXX

Gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango -- SoCal heatwave damages
« on: June 23, 2016, 02:25:41 PM »
I'm guessing your hot and humid misery is pretty much liked by your plants, Nancy!!!!

You must be getting close to a harvest of some kind if you haven't already begun
the plucking..... ::)


Gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango -- SoCal heatwave damages
« on: June 23, 2016, 12:59:40 PM »
knlim - no I didn't sprinkle with water...not sure it would help in our heat - it would just dry up in a minute or two.

gozp - yes they do love the heat!  Mine were fine with our 114-115 temps a few weeks ago, but 115 is kind of a tipping
point where above that damage of some kind is likely to occur...and yet....my tall Valenica Pride placed in apparently
the perfect spot, really seems perfectly fine in that extra high heat.  Microclimates do make a difference!


gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango -- SoCal heatwave damages
« on: June 22, 2016, 11:39:11 PM »
Hit 122 here on Monday.  LOTS of damage to new growth and some older plant tops.  And burned nearly mature
mango fruit.  It was brutal.  I covered some stuff but should have done more.  Will go out tomorrow and keep
covering them.....It's painful to look.....


Gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: La Habra yard
« on: June 19, 2016, 04:23:18 PM »
Simon is spot on - I have covered with shade cloth maybe parts of 7-8 trees as a precaution

I've got some mangoes next to walls  or exposed in some other ways which can be
quite debilitating at these temps, but no,  in general, a few days of 115 - 120 probably wouldn't kill
a tree that's at least say 3 years old....a branch possibly but only those fully exposed to the sun.I have a bunch of new
growth that I want to try and save on some trees so I took the effort to cover them.  It is getting
difficult as they get taller so those bigger trees are on their own and actually  seem to be get through it fine.

The biggest problem I have (and I wonder if Debra Wong with her mango trees down in the East Valley has them)
is fruit scald/burn from sun-exposed fruit.  I can't imagine she doesn't bag them or something so they are
protected because she def. couldn't sell them at any farmer's market.  It usually causes early fruit drop
that what would otherwise be a promisingly great mango down the road, but even if it makes it to full ripeness
it carries a very damaged top usually around the stem.  I should email and ask her.....

And I will confess, I do baby my trees (children) perhaps more than most growers
..... 

 :P

Gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: La Habra yard
« on: June 17, 2016, 12:08:34 AM »
..... well JF. might be July we'll know in a few weeks and
how everything survives the predicted 120 on Monday....

Gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: La Habra yard
« on: June 14, 2016, 01:55:49 PM »
...way to go little buddy!  Mine are getting to head-damaging size, some of them.....
I've got an Edward that could go in the Guinness book.....


Gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 100 Plus Year Old Mango Tree
« on: June 07, 2016, 11:54:02 PM »
....and still dripping with mangoes....amazing.....

gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: West Coast Weather
« on: June 07, 2016, 06:58:18 PM »
Stan - cmichael meant the west coast of Florida, with this tropical storm
arriving......yeah, my weather's been great too!!!!!!

 ;D



gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Macapuno coconut fruiting in Boca
« on: June 07, 2016, 06:56:13 PM »
Just chiming with what raimeiken has said, there might be some adaptability with this coconut in the desert - especially my sandy AND salty soil
out here in Palm Springs, CA, seeing as we were once an ocean here.  I've got all the heat elements of which your refer in the spring summer and fall
and I'm wondering if I was to plant it next to my pond what added benefit that humidity would give it........I tried growing a cheap ass Home Depot coconut
once and it died of the cold over winter but I did not plant it in this better spot near my pond. This Macupuno you've developed would have less of that issue....
anyway interesting to ponder.....

And by the way, Coconut, I think it is a tremendous thing you are doing and many people will thank you for it some day!!!!!

Gary

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Nancy - you need to pug that OAK tree!!!!!!

 ;D


gary

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Glenn Mangos...
« on: June 04, 2016, 12:59:39 AM »
Nice looking Glenn's, Nancy.  Sorry I can't give you any advice on when to pick
as I have some of the same confusion on  that topic.  Maybe pick the one that
looks the ripest and put it on  the counter to see.....then maybe you can judge
a ripening time for the rest!

ENJOY!!!!!

Gary

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